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OFFICIAL:The 2013 MLB Postseason Thread
OFFICIAL:The 2013 MLB Postseason Thread
Oct 24, 2013 at 8:14 AM
- Amir
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Oct 24, 2013 at 8:29 AM
- valrod33
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Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Statement from MLB's Pat Courtney on alleged Lester foreign substance: "We cannot draw any conclusions from this video
"There were no complaints from the (STL) and the umpires never detected anything indicating a foreign substance throughout the game."
"There were no complaints from the (STL) and the umpires never detected anything indicating a foreign substance throughout the game."
Oct 24, 2013 at 9:19 AM
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LOL at grease ball. There was nothing from Lester's pitches that showed any time of crazy downward movement that would come from grease on the ball. If the Cards had seen that they would have argued to the umpire and he would have been inspected. The reason is because there was nothing suspicious whatsoever on any pitch thrown.
What makes much more sense is that Lester put a tiny bit of pine tar on his fingers to make it LESS slippery and give him a grip in the cold weather.
What makes much more sense is that Lester put a tiny bit of pine tar on his fingers to make it LESS slippery and give him a grip in the cold weather.
Oct 24, 2013 at 9:24 AM
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Cardinals made enough bonehead mistakes in the field alone to lose the game, but his cutter was pretty nasty last night huh?
Oh well. Over last night. Gotta steal one tonight.
Oh well. Over last night. Gotta steal one tonight.
Oct 24, 2013 at 10:15 AM
- robniner
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Lester greasing?
What's next, the Buchholz issue again on stuff on the tip of his cap?
What's next, the Buchholz issue again on stuff on the tip of his cap?
Oct 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM
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Ya Buchholz was accused earlier this season as well
Oct 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM
- LA9erFan
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I feel sooooooo bad for Beltran. That freaking sucks.
Oct 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM
- jrg
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I feel sooooooo bad for Beltran. That freaking sucks.
He'll be in the lineup tonight.
Oct 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I feel sooooooo bad for Beltran. That freaking sucks.
He'll be in the lineup tonight.
That's good, but I wonder if he'll be
in the lineup the same way that Hanley Ramirez was.
Oct 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I feel sooooooo bad for Beltran. That freaking sucks.
He'll be in the lineup tonight.
That's good, but I wonder if he'll be
That is what I'm worried about. I'm sure he'll play...but curious to see how effective he'll be.
Oct 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL at grease ball. There was nothing from Lester's pitches that showed any time of crazy downward movement that would come from grease on the ball. If the Cards had seen that they would have argued to the umpire and he would have been inspected. The reason is because there was nothing suspicious whatsoever on any pitch thrown.
What makes much more sense is that Lester put a tiny bit of pine tar on his fingers to make it LESS slippery and give him a grip in the cold weather.
But, the video is pretty shady. Whether it was grease or pine-tart...that's hard to say, but it definitely looks like he's got something there. If Giants were playin' against the Sox yesterday - I'd be pretty upset with what Lester did.
Oct 24, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL at grease ball. There was nothing from Lester's pitches that showed any time of crazy downward movement that would come from grease on the ball. If the Cards had seen that they would have argued to the umpire and he would have been inspected. The reason is because there was nothing suspicious whatsoever on any pitch thrown.
What makes much more sense is that Lester put a tiny bit of pine tar on his fingers to make it LESS slippery and give him a grip in the cold weather.
But, the video is pretty shady. Whether it was grease or pine-tart...that's hard to say, but it definitely looks like he's got something there. If Giants were playin' against the Sox yesterday - I'd be pretty upset with what Lester did.
I agree that I would be ticked off. I just dont think Lester was putting anything greasy to make the ball move more. I think that would have been obvious with the motion of the pitches and the Cards hitters would have said something. Again, I really think it was pine tar or something sticky to get a better grip on the ball.
Oct 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL at grease ball. There was nothing from Lester's pitches that showed any time of crazy downward movement that would come from grease on the ball. If the Cards had seen that they would have argued to the umpire and he would have been inspected. The reason is because there was nothing suspicious whatsoever on any pitch thrown.
What makes much more sense is that Lester put a tiny bit of pine tar on his fingers to make it LESS slippery and give him a grip in the cold weather.
But, the video is pretty shady. Whether it was grease or pine-tart...that's hard to say, but it definitely looks like he's got something there. If Giants were playin' against the Sox yesterday - I'd be pretty upset with what Lester did.
I agree that I would be ticked off. I just dont think Lester was putting anything greasy to make the ball move more. I think that would have been obvious with the motion of the pitches and the Cards hitters would have said something. Again, I really think it was pine tar or something sticky to get a better grip on the ball.
Yea, I mostly agree with you. I just feel...since this is the WS, there shouldn't be any leeway in enforcing the rules and he really shouldn't be using pine-tar to help grip the ball. It's not a big deal...but it's still not done.
Oct 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM
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Beltran confirmed in
Oct 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM
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Originally posted by jrg:Beltran confirmed in
Glad his labia is feeling better