***Official NBA 2024-25 Season Thread***

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've heard about the the steals/blocks thing before, and it didn't just pertain to MJ. Home teams would keep scores of some of those stats and they inflated them often.

The All Star selection didn't know about that, that's funny. Played 18 games, started 7, and was an All Star lmao

Steals blocks and assists were frequently cooked in that era for lot of superstars but that year was cooked with extra spices at home for him in particular to get him DPOY.

Oh he played 15 of those 18 games in March and April that year. So, he played a total of 98 minutes before legitimately earning that all star spot lol

Btw no one was better at cooking stats than the Toronto raptors in mid to late 90s. Difference between home and away splits were in same cases over 200% lol

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I also find it hilarious that you Bron stans go back and forth whether or not you use age or years in the league, depending on what is more convenient for your argument.

By year 4, Jordan was a 4x All Star, an MVP and a DPOY. Ant just finished year 4. The comparison isnt even close to this point.

Yes we know they were all "earned" awards - after all he deserved the all-star for playing 2 games one of those years. Totally legit - including that DPOY where diff in home and away splits for steals & blks were suspicious as hell.

…here comes habba

Such an angry, bitter young man 😤

Look at them steals and blocks splits

Making all star team with 98 minutes played almost seems more legitimate.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Didn't know something so little will trigger jordan fanboys lol. Sensitive bunch like their lord and savior. They clutch onto context as soon as someone mentions his struggles winning regular season games & winning just 1 playoff game in 3 years but act as if context doesn't exists when talking about other players.

Jumping to his defense faster than habba jumps for trump is also pretty impressive.

At 22 - ANT is a more well rounded player offensively & defensively than Jordan was at 22.

Says the most sensitive Bronsexual we all know

Let's end this debate with reason and civility. No doubt both players had the greatest impact on where the NBA is today. They've set the global foundation for the NBA to prosper for the next millenium. Both players have a zillion championships, awards, accolades, etc. It boils down to a simple game of one on one. With this said, with both at the height of their powers, MJ wins 7 out of every 10 one on one games primarily becauseJames is not gifted offensively as MJ. He is not the scorer, playmaker, and closer that MJ is. And MJ is statistically the better defensive player. Lebron may be able to body up MJ in the paint several times, but to no avail...

1a MJ
1b Lebron
2 ?

Originally posted by 49erKing:
Let's end this debate with reason and civility. No doubt both players had the greatest impact on where the NBA is today. They've set the global foundation for the NBA to prosper for the next millenium. Both players have a zillion championships, awards, accolades, etc. It boils down to a simple game of one on one. With this said, with both at the height of their powers, MJ wins 7 out of every 10 one on one games primarily becauseJames is not gifted offensively as MJ. He is not the scorer, playmaker, and closer that MJ is. And MJ is statistically the better defensive player. Lebron may be able to body up MJ in the paint several times, but to no avail...

1a MJ
1b Lebron
2 ?

ill pass on and Lebron > Jordan

gotta convince me he is even on Kobe or Duncan's level first .

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
Let's end this debate with reason and civility. No doubt both players had the greatest impact on where the NBA is today. They've set the global foundation for the NBA to prosper for the next millenium. Both players have a zillion championships, awards, accolades, etc. It boils down to a simple game of one on one. With this said, with both at the height of their powers, MJ wins 7 out of every 10 one on one games primarily becauseJames is not gifted offensively as MJ. He is not the scorer, playmaker, and closer that MJ is. And MJ is statistically the better defensive player. Lebron may be able to body up MJ in the paint several times, but to no avail...

1a MJ
1b Lebron
2 ?

Hmm we watched this pic.twitter.com/KwkvDmZbeY

— KC (@KC_sonshine) May 6, 2024

ill pass on and Lebron > Jordan

gotta convince me he is even on Kobe or Duncan's level first .

Pretty much where I'm at along with a few others

If Luka, Wemby, and ANT keep their heads - they'd be better players than anyone who retired 20-30 years before they started played.

The cycle repeats 20-30 years from now - the very best players from that generation will be better than anyone playing today.

oh and Kobe was a better player than mike imo. Unfortunately had very little talent on his team when he was in his absolute prime. Im old enough to remember mj stans hating on Kobe for years lol

lol 2011 was 13 years ago lol - but if we are doing this - how about mj choking a series in 1989. With a 2-1 series lead - went 5-15 in game 4 and took just 8 shots in game 5 (only 1 in 4th quarter when Bulls could have won that game).




Every legend choked a series or two here and there.

lol