crzy's Dynasty Football League (League Closed)

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
The teams that are not going to make the playoffs can dump 2-3 very good players for 1 keeper next year.

I don't see anything inherently wrong with the situation you suggested.

That's the point of a Dynasty league.

If somebody is willing to sacrifice a long term keeper for a shot at a ring this season, then I think they should be allowed to do that.

What was the trade LA and Slick made last year? I forget who LA was trading for Caron Butler. Jamal Crawford for Caron Butler?? I still see nothing wrong with that trade, because at the time Butler, a valuable long term keeper was sucking, and Slick was willing to deal him to improve his championship odds.

Slick may or may not have won the championship with the player LA gave him, but he definitely would have been a huge disadvantage during this offseason when he lost a top 15-20 player like Caron Butler.

In any case, it only takes 4 people to veto any trade during the regular season.

What do other people think?

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
ah, crzy, the voice of reason. i agree with crzy, if someone wants to get rid of a keeper to compete for a ring...the other player will benefit as well, by getting their keeper.

No question the other player will benefit. I'm not saying that though. What I'm saying is, it may be unfair to other managers. There is a reason why all sports have a deadline half-way through the season or even before. NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL are also "dynasty" leagues, and the reason for earlier trade deadline is to avoid this situation. Obviously, they feel it shouldn't be allowed.

I honestly feel trading dead-line should be at a point of the season where everyone has a viable shot of making the playoffs, hence no one will trade away current season for the next one - and that I think is much better and fair.

I actually agree with 4ML on this point. I'm pretty anti-trade veto, but I do think that the trade deadline should be moved up at least 2 weeks, for the same reason that every sport has a trade deadline a little more than halfway through the season.

Originally posted by 49ersRednGold:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:
I'm bummed about not picking again until 57, but according to nfl.com's PPR mock, I picked 3 of the top 15 players in this draft

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story/09000d5d810daafe/comments/jonesdrew-rises-in-nflcoms-2009-ppr-fantasy-football-mock-draft

Clinton Portis in top 15...I don't know about that. But, I think you have picked 3 of the top 25, and that's pretty good as well.

I had Clinton Portis last year and while he gets some good numbers, the redzone carries always seem to go to Betts. And I read that they are going to use Betts more this year because they don't want to wear down Portis. And Portis gets so banged up and that scared me.

Yeup. Not to mention his on going feud with Zorn. No way he is a top 15 player in my opinion. Wayyyy too much wear and tear on his body.

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by 49ersRednGold:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:
I'm bummed about not picking again until 57, but according to nfl.com's PPR mock, I picked 3 of the top 15 players in this draft

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story/09000d5d810daafe/comments/jonesdrew-rises-in-nflcoms-2009-ppr-fantasy-football-mock-draft

Clinton Portis in top 15...I don't know about that. But, I think you have picked 3 of the top 25, and that's pretty good as well.

I had Clinton Portis last year and while he gets some good numbers, the redzone carries always seem to go to Betts. And I read that they are going to use Betts more this year because they don't want to wear down Portis. And Portis gets so banged up and that scared me.

Yeup. Not to mention his on going feud with Zorn. No way he is a top 15 player in my opinion. Wayyyy too much wear and tear on his body.

news to me. Good to know

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
The teams that are not going to make the playoffs can dump 2-3 very good players for 1 keeper next year.

I don't see anything inherently wrong with the situation you suggested.

That's the point of a Dynasty league.

If somebody is willing to sacrifice a long term keeper for a shot at a ring this season, then I think they should be allowed to do that.

What was the trade LA and Slick made last year? I forget who LA was trading for Caron Butler. Jamal Crawford for Caron Butler?? I still see nothing wrong with that trade, because at the time Butler, a valuable long term keeper was sucking, and Slick was willing to deal him to improve his championship odds.

Slick may or may not have won the championship with the player LA gave him, but he definitely would have been a huge disadvantage during this offseason when he lost a top 15-20 player like Caron Butler.

In any case, it only takes 4 people to veto any trade during the regular season.

What do other people think?

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
ah, crzy, the voice of reason. i agree with crzy, if someone wants to get rid of a keeper to compete for a ring...the other player will benefit as well, by getting their keeper.

No question the other player will benefit. I'm not saying that though. What I'm saying is, it may be unfair to other managers. There is a reason why all sports have a deadline half-way through the season or even before. NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL are also "dynasty" leagues, and the reason for earlier trade deadline is to avoid this situation. Obviously, they feel it shouldn't be allowed.

I honestly feel trading dead-line should be at a point of the season where everyone has a viable shot of making the playoffs, hence no one will trade away current season for the next one - and that I think is much better and fair.

I actually agree with 4ML on this point. I'm pretty anti-trade veto, but I do think that the trade deadline should be moved up at least 2 weeks, for the same reason that every sport has a trade deadline a little more than halfway through the season.

Thanks Pete. In my opinion, we should have a deadline at the end of week 8. Managers by then should have a pretty good sense where their team is weak and what are the strengths of their roster. If they wish to make a trade to help them in playoffs, they should pull the trigger then.

[ Edited by 49ersMyLife on Aug 7, 2009 at 10:46:29 ]

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Thanks Pete. In my opinion, we should have a deadline at the end of week 8. Managers by then should have a pretty good sense where their team is weak and what are the strengths of their roster. If they wish to make a trade to help them in playoffs, they should pull the trigger then.

I agree with Week 8 as well. Heck, the NFL's deadline is Week 6 IIRC, and they're definitely a "keeper" league.

Originally posted by 49ersRednGold:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:
I'm bummed about not picking again until 57, but according to nfl.com's PPR mock, I picked 3 of the top 15 players in this draft

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story/09000d5d810daafe/comments/jonesdrew-rises-in-nflcoms-2009-ppr-fantasy-football-mock-draft

Clinton Portis in top 15...I don't know about that. But, I think you have picked 3 of the top 25, and that's pretty good as well.

I had Clinton Portis last year and while he gets some good numbers, the redzone carries always seem to go to Betts. And I read that they are going to use Betts more this year because they don't want to wear down Portis. And Portis gets so banged up and that scared me.

Betts only scored once last year, so he's not exactly Lendale White

I get what you're saying though, but check this out:

Clinton Portis, 2008, 342 carries, 1487 rushing yards yards, 9 total touchdowns

269.50 fantasy points (10th best running back)

Clinton Portis, 2007, 325 carries, 1262 yards, 11 total touchdowns

293.10 fantasy points (4th best running back)


Even though he had 17 fewer carries in 2007, Portis was actually more valuable in PPR leagues that year, because he caught 47 receptions for almost 400 receiving yards. Last year, he only caught 28 receptions for 218 yards.

Therefore, I don't mind if Portis' carries are reduced from 342 to 310-320. Because the real issue with him is the number of receptions. And the #1 reason why he only caught 28 balls last year is because Clinton Portis is a STUD in pass protection. He is one of the best pass blocking running backs in the NFL. And Zorn loves to leave Portis in to block in passing plays instead of targeting him. Clinton Portis was only targeted 36 times in the passing game last year and he caught 28 of them.

Betts doesn't really scare me. He just isn't that good. Averaging 3.4 yards per rush last year, 3.6 the year before that. And he's 2 years older than Clinton Portis (28). The Redskins will rely heavily on Portis in order to win football games.

Just like the Niners with Frank Gore

[ Edited by crzy on Aug 7, 2009 at 10:58:41 ]

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Thanks Pete. In my opinion, we should have a deadline at the end of week 8. Managers by then should have a pretty good sense where their team is weak and what are the strengths of their roster. If they wish to make a trade to help them in playoffs, they should pull the trigger then.

I agree with Week 8 as well. Heck, the NFL's deadline is Week 6 IIRC, and they're definitely a "keeper" league.

Yeup, it is week 6 and they have 16 regular season games. Our playoffs will end before their regular season (obviously).

4ML and LA have weighed, in. I want to hear everyone's thoughts.


Trading Deadline
4ML: Week 8
LA: Week 8
crzy: Week 12

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 49ersRednGold:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:
I'm bummed about not picking again until 57, but according to nfl.com's PPR mock, I picked 3 of the top 15 players in this draft

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story/09000d5d810daafe/comments/jonesdrew-rises-in-nflcoms-2009-ppr-fantasy-football-mock-draft

Clinton Portis in top 15...I don't know about that. But, I think you have picked 3 of the top 25, and that's pretty good as well.

I had Clinton Portis last year and while he gets some good numbers, the redzone carries always seem to go to Betts. And I read that they are going to use Betts more this year because they don't want to wear down Portis. And Portis gets so banged up and that scared me.

Betts only scored once last year, so he's not exactly Lendale White

I get what you're saying though, but check this out:

Clinton Portis, 2008, 342 carries, 1487 rushing yards yards, 9 total touchdowns

269.50 fantasy points (10th best running back)

Clinton Portis, 2007, 325 carries, 1262 yards, 11 total touchdowns

293.10 fantasy points (4th best running back)


Even though he had 17 fewer carries in 2007, Portis was actually more valuable in PPR leagues that year, because he caught 47 receptions for almost 400 receiving yards. Last year, he only caught 28 receptions for 218 yards.

Therefore, I don't mind if Portis' carries are reduced from 342 to 310-320. Because the real issue with him is the number of receptions. And the #1 reason why he only caught 28 balls last year is because Clinton Portis is a STUD in pass protection. He is one of the best pass blocking running backs in the NFL. And Zorn loves to leave Portis in to block in passing plays instead of targeting him. Clinton Portis was only targeted 36 times in the passing game last year and he caught 28 of them.

Betts doesn't really scare me. He just isn't that good. Averaging 3.4 yards per rush last year, 3.6 the year before that. And he's 2 years older than Clinton Portis (28). The Redskins will rely heavily on Portis in order to win football games.

Just like the Niners with Frank Gore

Betts definitely isn't Lendale White, but what I was going for earlier was that Betts gets the carries or replaces Portis when they are in the redzone which was the issue for me. Betts didn't get in most of the time but he would get the carries and that frustrated me last year when they had a stud like Portis.

Looking to trade down in rd. 3

Anyone wanting to trade up, please pm me

Of course, the guy I hope who's still there in my next pick goes to the guy I trade the pick for. Thx crzy.

GO is on the sundial again? grreat...

Can't believe this site isn't banned/disallowed at work....Cool

I think I need a haircut. Who should I go see?

Come on Game Over. I think I saw him online too around 11ish.

I think we should have just vetoed the trade he did with AB