Jimmy Garoppolo-QB-EIU

If we rather have Garrett we're gonna say we're in love with Truby, If we're in love with Truby we'll play the Garrett card.

I love me so Double G's baby...

Garrett & Garroppolo

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Depends on what their analytics department believes is fair value for Garoppolo. No reason to expect them to get into a bidding war. But if the 49ers do acquire Garoppolo, that means there is one less QB on the market and there will be at least a couple QB hungry teams up to bat before Cleveland picks again in the 1st round.

The more teams needing a qb means more teams taking those guys off the board. If us or the Bears landed Jimmy that could in theory hurt our chances because if Cleveland is willing to wait on whatever qb to drop (most likely if they prefer Watson) they no longer fear us taking a qb. They can go Garrett and we're just f'd.
Not f'd we get to trade Mitch for a nice little package. Just f'd out of Garrett.

I find it doubtful they would do that though since you want your guy not who falls. There's too much risk there.

Beyond that, whichever team secured Garoppolo is now a risk to trade back with a qb-needy team, so the risk factor associated with waiting until the Eagles' pick is not diminished in any way.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Beyond that, whichever team secured Garoppolo is now a risk to trade back with a qb-needy team, so the risk factor associated with waiting until the Eagles' pick is not diminished in any way.

True but it also could be Clv themselves moving up for all we know. They certainly have the ammo. If they want a certain franchise qb and de that's worth tossing away a 2nd rounder.

The reason you take Jimmy is because you think he's a franchise qb. You have to separate it from Garrett unless we end up with #1.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Beyond that, whichever team secured Garoppolo is now a risk to trade back with a qb-needy team, so the risk factor associated with waiting until the Eagles' pick is not diminished in any way.

True but it also could be Clv themselves moving up for all we know. They certainly have the ammo. If they want a certain franchise qb and de that's worth tossing away a 2nd rounder.

The reason you take Jimmy is because you think he's a franchise qb. You have to separate it from Garrett unless we end up with #1.

I've never suggested that we trade for Garoppolo to secure Garrett. I've suggested that we trade for Garoppolo because he'd be a late 1st round pick this year if he was an identical recreation of himself in his draft year, but I believe his experience learning from Brady, McDaniels, and Belichick and playing against NFL defenders makes him significantly better than when he came out. Getting him for a 2ND or 2 is a steal, imo.

As an added benefit, we wouldn't need to go QB in Rd one, so we're free to take Garrett at 2 or trade away the right to draft QB1 for a rich bounty.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

I've never suggested that we trade for Garoppolo to secure Garrett. I've suggested that we trade for Garoppolo because he'd be a late 1st round pick this year if he was an identical recreation of himself in his draft year, but I believe his experience learning from Brady, McDaniels, and Belichick and playing against NFL defenders makes him significantly better than when he came out. Getting him for a 2ND or 2 is a steal, imo.

As an added benefit, we wouldn't need to go QB in Rd one, so we're free to take Garrett at 2 or trade away the right to draft QB1 for a rich bounty.

I find it very doubtful he'd be a 1st rounder today when he wasn't 4 years ago. Nothing has changed. He's still from a small town school with an average frame. The prototypes rise the smaller guys fall. It doesn't make them any worse but they never shoot up the board. He fell to the end of the 2nd and that would most likely still happen today.

Playing under Bill may help or he may find it a lot harder to function without that superior coaching and talent. I don't care to be the team to find that one out.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

I've never suggested that we trade for Garoppolo to secure Garrett. I've suggested that we trade for Garoppolo because he'd be a late 1st round pick this year if he was an identical recreation of himself in his draft year, but I believe his experience learning from Brady, McDaniels, and Belichick and playing against NFL defenders makes him significantly better than when he came out. Getting him for a 2ND or 2 is a steal, imo.

As an added benefit, we wouldn't need to go QB in Rd one, so we're free to take Garrett at 2 or trade away the right to draft QB1 for a rich bounty.

I find it very doubtful he'd be a 1st rounder today when he wasn't 4 years ago. Nothing has changed. He's still from a small town school with an average frame. The prototypes rise the smaller guys fall. It doesn't make them any worse but they never shoot up the board. He fell to the end of the 2nd and that would most likely still happen today.

Playing under Bill may help or he may find it a lot harder to function without that superior coaching and talent. I don't care to be the team to find that one out.

So here's a question for you...burn a 1st round pick on a guy like Trubisky, burn a 2nd-3rd round pick on someone else, or burn a 2nd round pick for Jimmy G? How would you go about improving the QB situation?

Originally posted by GEEK:

So here's a question for you...burn a 1st round pick on a guy like Trubisky, burn a 2nd-3rd round pick on someone else, or burn a 2nd round pick for Jimmy G? How would you go about improving the QB situation?

I still want to see Mitch in his bowl game, Watson in the playoffs before jumping into that.

We need a drafted rookie, the bpa the next 6 rounds

Originally posted by Eli_23:

I love me so Double G's baby...

Garrett & Garroppolo

I would be excited about having these two guys next year

Originally posted by Andra:

Originally posted by Eli_23:

I love me so Double G's baby...

Garrett & Garroppolo

I would be excited about having these two guys next year

Garrett alone would be exciting

The other thing is, should we go after JG and get him, no matter how it turns out, I am hoping we take a QB high (2nd or 3rd round). It is a nice insurance policy, gives us a guy that has starter potential, and should a trade for JG work, we'd have a talented backup.

Is there any way we can give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for him? Or is that too cheap.

Originally posted by Kuya:

Is there any way we can give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for him? Or is that too cheap.

Personally I doubt they will take one 2nd round pick so, in this quarterback-hungry league toeven suggest a 4th would just be a joke imo.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

I find it very doubtful he'd be a 1st rounder today when he wasn't 4 years ago. Nothing has changed. He's still from a small town school with an average frame. The prototypes rise the smaller guys fall. It doesn't make them any worse but they never shoot up the board. He fell to the end of the 2nd and that would most likely still happen today.

Playing under Bill may help or he may find it a lot harder to function without that superior coaching and talent. I don't care to be the team to find that one out.

Rodgers and Bridgewater are the same size...

Bill doesn't train robots. Garoppolo's biggest issue with a new team wouldn't be needling a football genius to hold his hand. His problem would be getting the WRs to run their routes with the same precision they do in NE. THAT'S correctable. You just acquire good route runners and coach them up. Corey Davis and Switzer wouldn't be bad starting points.