Jimmy Garoppolo-QB-EIU

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
no thanks

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.@AdamSchefter says discussions for Jimmy G in a trade start at a 1st & 4th round draft pick (the Sam Bradford return)

well yeah it's sales 101 brah...never start low.

You think they'd started out with a 2nd for Jones and a 3rd comp for Collins? All the teams in real need for a QB are top 15 picks and no one is giving that up, especially after what happened with the Bradford trade.

If Cleveland likes Garoppolo and are in a bidding war with SF & Chicago. They can give the 2nd 1st round pick and still get either Allen or Garrett.

That's almost twice as much as what the Vikings gave up for Bradford and they were desperate for a QB with what they felt was a closing championship window. Bradford had 2 years remaining on his deal (for $24 million total with no guaranteed money after the Eagles paid $11 million of his contract as part of the trade) and was far more proven than Garapollo, with one of the highest passer ratings in the league over the 2nd half of 2015 even though he didn't have a particularly strong supporting cast in Philidelphia.

There isn't going to be a bidding war among bad teams for Garapollo. I don't think the Browns, 49ers, or Bears will be interested in him at all. It would take another Teddy Bridgewater situation on a winning team for the Patriots to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy and it would be a late first round pick at best.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
That's almost twice as much as what the Vikings gave up for Bradford and they were desperate for a QB with what they felt was a closing championship window. Bradford had 2 years remaining on his deal (for $24 million total with no guaranteed money after the Eagles paid $11 million of his contract as part of the trade) and was far more proven than Garapollo, with one of the highest passer ratings in the league over the 2nd half of 2015 even though he didn't have a particularly strong supporting cast in Philidelphia.

There isn't going to be a bidding war among bad teams for Garapollo. I don't think the Browns, 49ers, or Bears will be interested in him at all. It would take another Teddy Bridgewater situation on a winning team for the Patriots to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy and it would be a late first round pick at best.

I disagree, east. I think there's going to be a major bidding war for Garoppolo among the Browns, Bears, and Denver possibly. If they're not asking for the moon, I can see the Niners jumping in.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
That's almost twice as much as what the Vikings gave up for Bradford and they were desperate for a QB with what they felt was a closing championship window. Bradford had 2 years remaining on his deal (for $24 million total with no guaranteed money after the Eagles paid $11 million of his contract as part of the trade) and was far more proven than Garapollo, with one of the highest passer ratings in the league over the 2nd half of 2015 even though he didn't have a particularly strong supporting cast in Philidelphia.

There isn't going to be a bidding war among bad teams for Garapollo. I don't think the Browns, 49ers, or Bears will be interested in him at all. It would take another Teddy Bridgewater situation on a winning team for the Patriots to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy and it would be a late first round pick at best.

I disagree, east. I think there's going to be a major bidding war for Garoppolo among the Browns, Bears, and Denver possibly. If they're not asking for the moon, I can see the Niners jumping in.

We'll see - a lot depends on how these teams view the top QB prospects this year. If the Browns, Bears, and 49ers like Trubisky and Kizer, I could see those guys being far more attractive to a rebuilding team. I'd much rather have a QB on a rookie contract who can grow with the team than a QB with a very high floor that is being paid like a franchise QB already and may not have the same ceiling as these other guys. If we were a championship contender right now with a hole at QB, I'd be willing to trade a 1st round pick for Jimmy in a heartbeat because he's the best option available.

Unless we expect Garapollo to be a top 3 QB in the league in the near future, we're going nowhere with him in the next 3 years anyways because we don't have talent on offense or defense. Given the current roster, I think it makes a lot more sense to consider QBs based on where you expect them to be in 3-4 years, which is why I like Kizer a lot and why I could see us picking Mahomes in the 2nd round.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
That's almost twice as much as what the Vikings gave up for Bradford and they were desperate for a QB with what they felt was a closing championship window. Bradford had 2 years remaining on his deal (for $24 million total with no guaranteed money after the Eagles paid $11 million of his contract as part of the trade) and was far more proven than Garapollo, with one of the highest passer ratings in the league over the 2nd half of 2015 even though he didn't have a particularly strong supporting cast in Philidelphia.

There isn't going to be a bidding war among bad teams for Garapollo. I don't think the Browns, 49ers, or Bears will be interested in him at all. It would take another Teddy Bridgewater situation on a winning team for the Patriots to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy and it would be a late first round pick at best.

I disagree, east. I think there's going to be a major bidding war for Garoppolo among the Browns, Bears, and Denver possibly. If they're not asking for the moon, I can see the Niners jumping in.

Ehhh Romo is heading to the Broncos or possibly the Bears (went to school out there) can't forget about him . I think there will be interest in JG without question, I don't think he will get a 1st rd pick all said and done.

Like I said NE has to start somewhere but that doesn't mean that's what they will get.

http://nfltraderumors.co/patriots-likely-ask-first-fourth-round-picks-trade-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/

Minnesota's Bradford deal set the standard here. Pats asking for a 1st and 4th. Nope.

Originally posted by TheNef77:

http://nfltraderumors.co/patriots-likely-ask-first-fourth-round-picks-trade-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/

Minnesota's Bradford deal set the standard here. Pats asking for a 1st and 4th. Nope.

Yup totally different scenario though...minn lost there starter right before regular season started and where supposedly setup to make a strong playoff push.

I think philly paid for a good portion of his guaranteed cash as well?

Can't blame NE got to start somewhere...no way they land that type of capital for a guy with two starts along with having to pay for him top tier money.

Originally posted by TheNef77:

http://nfltraderumors.co/patriots-likely-ask-first-fourth-round-picks-trade-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/

Minnesota's Bradford deal set the standard here. Pats asking for a 1st and 4th. Nope.

Wouldn't two 2nd rounds picks pretty much equal a 1st and a 4th cause that's what most people are agreeing on trading for Jimmy. No way the Patriots think they can get a top 10 pick for him. A late first is possible but usually teams picking in the late first have a QB.

Matt Schaub went for 2 2nd rounders that's what I think they're going to get when the dust settles. That's really the closest comparison you have for him.

The question is what's the market and I don't think it will be strong enough to net them a 1st barring something unseen. They won't trade him in division knocking out 2 landing spots and Chc, Clv and us has the draft. They're best bet would be a team like Denver who just needs a qb but Room makes more sense.

They'll get a 2nd rounder for sure and I think can squeeze a future 2nd out too.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Matt Schaub went for 2 2nd rounders that's what I think they're going to get when the dust settles. That's really the closest comparison you have for him.

The question is what's the market and I don't think it will be strong enough to net them a 1st barring something unseen. They won't trade him in division knocking out 2 landing spots and Chc, Clv and us has the draft. They're best bet would be a team like Denver who just needs a qb but Room makes more sense.

They'll get a 2nd rounder for sure and I think can squeeze a future 2nd out too.

I don't know if they would even trade Jimmy to Denver unless they absolutely gave them a trade they can't refuse. Broncos are a team that is a QB and a few O-Linemen away from being back in the super bowl. I don't know if the Bill would wanna reload one of his biggest competitors.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Matt Schaub went for 2 2nd rounders that's what I think they're going to get when the dust settles. That's really the closest comparison you have for him.

The question is what's the market and I don't think it will be strong enough to net them a 1st barring something unseen. They won't trade him in division knocking out 2 landing spots and Chc, Clv and us has the draft. They're best bet would be a team like Denver who just needs a qb but Room makes more sense.

They'll get a 2nd rounder for sure and I think can squeeze a future 2nd out too.

Clev with that Philly 1st rounder might pull the trigger if they feel that he's the better QB option than what's left in the draft.

a 1st and a 4th? Eesh! Our 1st is way too valuable so id be down for our 2nd, which is pretty a late first, and our 4th comp pick that we will probably get

McDaniels + Garoppolo = package deal

Originally posted by TheNef77:

http://nfltraderumors.co/patriots-likely-ask-first-fourth-round-picks-trade-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/

Minnesota's Bradford deal set the standard here. Pats asking for a 1st and 4th. Nope.

The Bradford trade was a unique situation where teams knew they could stick it to Minnesota because how desperate they were. You wont have that same dynamic at play with Garoppolo.

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Clev with that Philly 1st rounder might pull the trigger if they feel that he's the better QB option than what's left in the draft.

You really think the analytics crew will give up that much for a guy they have to pay a crapload of money to soon after?

If we had a lower pick in the draft lets say mid 20's i would be all for it but a top 3 pick in the 1st N 4th NO THANKS!!!

I can easily see the Browns giving up one of their 1st round picks for his services meaning they will probably take Garrett with the 1st pick