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DB Dontae Johnson North Carolina State

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Fantastic!!!!! We may not even need Ward back in the slot!

Man, it's crazy to think the worst draft pick so far has been the 1st rounder...and he wasn't that bad..was just learning a new position after playing safety in college...either way he was drafted as a future safety, so i am not concerned.

Truth!
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there
arms to short, hands to small...haters gonna hate.
how does sherman look when he lines ip in the slot? does he ever?
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
how does sherman look when he lines ip in the slot? does he ever?
Not often. Probably less than 10-15% of his snaps
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there

And he just started getting his feet wet. He'll only get better and better in this defensive scheme.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there

And he just started getting his feet wet. He'll only get better and better in this defensive scheme.

Don't get too excited about those stats, after all....he's only played against RG the Turd, and Russell Wilson.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there

And he just started getting his feet wet. He'll only get better and better in this defensive scheme.

Ward should not get the position back. Ward should just be moved to safety and developed there for the future while being utilized as a dime back. It's sad because he never should've been picked so high for such a role, but he simply wasn't the best pick for us right there and I'm still pretty disappointed. With Acker looking promising, and Reaser competing next year too, Ward brings more value as safety depth.

Even if we opt not to bring back Culliver -- and believe it or not, I think we should because he's started playing a lot better and brings much-needed speed back there -- we could bring back Cox instead and have a CB corps of: Brock-Cox-Dontae-Acker-Reaser (plus any rookies or FAs) and a safety corps of: Reid-Bethea-Ward-McCray-Dahl.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 6, 2014 at 8:49 AM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there

And he just started getting his feet wet. He'll only get better and better in this defensive scheme.

Ward should not get the position back. Ward should just be moved to safety and developed there for the future while being utilized as a dime back. It's sad because he never should've been picked so high for such a role, but he simply wasn't the best pick for us right there and I'm still pretty disappointed. With Acker looking promising, and Reaser competing next year too, Ward brings more value as safety depth.

Even if we opt not to bring back Culliver -- and believe it or not, I think we should because he's started playing a lot better and brings much-needed speed back there -- we could bring back Cox instead and have a CB corps of: Brock-Cox-Dontae-Acker-Reaser (plus any rookies or FAs) and a safety corps of: Reid-Bethea-Ward-McCray-Dahl.

Sure he should have been picked that high. They were drafting for their safety of the future...with him playing the slot in the short term. I have no problem with the pick...I think he's going to be a stud safety and a great compliment to Reid. I was expecting a little more out of him from the slot, but The dividends will be paid further down the road with him.
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Dec 6, 2014 at 9:32 AM ]
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there

And he just started getting his feet wet. He'll only get better and better in this defensive scheme.

Don't get too excited about those stats, after all....he's only played against RG the Turd, and Russell Wilson.

Yeah, good point...how many games has he played now mostly at slot? Since Ward's been out? I know he's played some outside as well.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cornerbacks Slot Performance


When Johnson lines up in the Slot opposing QBs have a 43.8 NFL Rating when throwing into his direction. Thats the Third Lowest Rating in the NFL (the lower, the better).


1. Darrelle Revis NFL Rating 20.0

2. Brandon Flowers NFL Rating 33.8

3. Dontae Johnson NFL Rating 43.8

Just more stats proving how good the kid is playing out there

And he just started getting his feet wet. He'll only get better and better in this defensive scheme.

Don't get too excited about those stats, after all....he's only played against RG the Turd, and Russell Wilson.

Yeah, good point...how many games has he played now mostly at slot? Since Ward's been out? I know he's played some outside as well.



Mostly in the slot -> NY Giants + Washington Redskins + Seattle Seahawks.




This season Johnson played a total of 225 snaps on defense (slot + outside) and has a NFL Rating of 65.2. Thats 14th best in the NFL (out of 117 CBs).


14. Dontae Johnson SF 65.2

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A few other notable rookies.


27. Jason Verrett SD 76.2
29. EJ Gaines SL 77.6
36. Phillip Gaines KC 80.6
64. Kyle Fuller CHI 93.3
75. Justin Gilbert CLV 99.0
81. Bradley Roby DEN 104.5
85. Bashaud Breeland WAS 108.9
113. Jimmie Ward SF 134.3




The percentage of receptions completed into his coverage (225 snaps / slot + outside) is 42.9. Thats 2nd Best in the NFL (out of 117 CBs)


2. Dontae Johnson SF 42.9

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3. Vontae Davis IND 45.0
4. RIchard Sherman SEA 45.1
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8. Darrelle Revis NE 47.8
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This season Johnson has 3 PD (passes defended) and 1 Interception on 21 Targets.

To put those numbers into perspective.

This season Sherman has 4 PD (passes defended) and 3 Interception on 51 Targets.




Note I dont want to say that Johnson is as good as Sherman or Revis, both played way more snaps on defense. BUT when on the field he has been highly productive.
[ Edited by DeUh on Dec 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM ]
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Originally posted by DeUh:

Note I dont want to say that Johnson is as good as Sherman or Revis, both played way more snaps on defense. BUT when on the field he has been highly productive.

I'll say it for you. He's just as good....

Next year, he'll be better than both
on the one hand, the guy seems to play better than ward in the slot, given that he was a safety in school as well.
on the other hand, the snap number is relatively small and the opponents, giants, skins, hawks, are certainly not THE masters of the passing attack.

however, rookie, picked at the end of the 4th round, came in to replace the starting slot DB, who indeed does his job well.
that like a christmas present.
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Originally posted by communist:
on the one hand, the guy seems to play better than ward in the slot, given that he was a safety in school as well.
on the other hand, the snap number is relatively small and the opponents, giants, skins, hawks, are certainly not THE masters of the passing attack.

however, rookie, picked at the end of the 4th round, came in to replace the starting slot DB, who indeed does his job well.
that like a christmas present.


Giants, Skins and Hawks are the opponents where Johnson played mostly in the slot.

He also played almost the whole Dallas + Denver game and a few snaps against Chicago, St Louis and New Orleans.




Totally agree with the rest.
[ Edited by DeUh on Dec 6, 2014 at 1:10 PM ]
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A Few Other Stats I Found Looking For Johnson


Johnson is also one of our top ST players. Out of 1089 players Johnson is Nr. 92.

Our best player on special teams is still Chris Cook (IR) at NR 27.




By the way our two special team aces Ray Ventrone and Kassim Osgood come in at 968 and 1063.




And last but not least. Carlos Rogers, who Johnson replaced this season in the slot, is dead last in the NFL in completion percentage. 84.6 percent of the passes thrown into his direction are completed.
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