Odell Beckham

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Webzoners are delusional.

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

After Foster's recent arrest and OBJ's recent video, I doubt Lynch has any interest.

Lmao if you guys don't think we are interested in Odell then you aren't living in reality

Lynch wouldn't give up the 9th overall for OBJ.....thats obsurd.

You don't know what he would do. Why do people on WZ talk like they know Lynch personally lol

Trading the #9 pick for a big playmaker but not sure what you'll get out of him for the next couple of years (on and off the field) and on top of that paying him $17m+ a year......I don't know Lynch personally but I have to think he won't make that deal...lol. He didn't wanna pay Allen Robinson and he was cheaper.

See this is what I mean. You're characterizing things in a way that support your conclusion.

Let's talk about facts. Odell has never been in trouble off the field. Allen Robinson was coming off an ACL so there is concern of him not being the same. Odell broke a bone. He will be the same.

So you do know what you're getting on the field. To say otherwise is just complete madness. You pay him 17 mill because he's a top 2 WR in the league.

And again Odell has NEVER been in trouble off the field. He celebrates and gets emotional during games. Please stick to FACTS and not emotional arguments.

+ Show all quotes that video shows plenty of trouble

It really doesn't. He's never failed a drug test or been arrested for possession of any illegal narcotics. Too many are jumping to conclusions over a 4 sec video.

it shows everything and what type of people he associates himself with. Just because he hasn't been arrested, it doesn't mean he isn't doing it

You realize you can probably say this about the majority of athletes and entertainers in the world right? Just because someone you associate with does drugs, it doesn't mean you are guilty by association. The funny thing is it's a groupie chick he seems to barely know. Some are acting like the person was a long time friend or something.

If anything you'd hope that he learns from this and doesn't allow anyone to tape him in personal settings like that, but people need to realize that single young superstars don't live the same type of lives as the rest of us. Some like to party, but once it doesn't interfere with their profession, big deal. I don't hear people complaining about Gronk, or is it because he hasn't been caught on video yet in a compromising situation at the many wild parties he usually attends?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Dillesq:
Webzoners are delusional.

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
After Foster's recent arrest and OBJ's recent video, I doubt Lynch has any interest.

Lmao if you guys don't think we are interested in Odell then you aren't living in reality

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Lynch wouldn't give up the 9th overall for OBJ.....thats obsurd.

You don't know what he would do. Why do people on WZ talk like they know Lynch personally lol

But we are supoose to believe that he's interested, because you say so right like YOU know Lynch personally.

contradict much.

We are supposed to believe that he is interested, because he is a GM of an NFL team. OBJ is one of the most dynamic players in the NFL, and if ANY general manager doesnt have interest, he shouldnt be holding that position.

Cmon Kolohe, you are being ridiculous now. Give Dillesq a break. It is obvious that every GM would have some sort of interest in one of the best offensive players in the game. It is much more plausible to assume he has interest (because what GM wouldnt?), than to assume he doesnt have interest (which you are inexplicably doing).

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dillesq:
By reading WZ you'd think the Rams were falling apart lmao. You guys are wild.

It's all how you look at it...they've brought in guys to win right now (suh/talib) neither are long-term plans. They've got to pay some of their young guys some serious dough in the upcoming yrs as well.

They could have around 45% of their cap tied up in 5 players very soon. Is what it is, they're good without question...a lot of ways to build a good team.

Like 95.7 the game said this morning....I think Sean and the GM got a taste of success last year and lost in the 1st round of the playoffs and right now they are doing everything they can to get back there even if just means a 1-2 year window instead of long term.

Yup...I'm fine building up the team with good young/cheap talent. They will/have gotten some big names in SF via FA as well.

I just don't believe in going hog wild on FA...it's not a long-term solution IMO. The Rams better be able to draft well because they're gonna be tying-up a ton of money into a handful of guys for the foreseeable future.

Originally posted by RonMexico:
Giants are going to trade him because he does nothing wrong

LOL right?

This thread is full of

Originally posted by Nastastical:
You realize you can probably say this about the majority of athletes and entertainers in the world right? Just because someone you associate with does drugs, it doesn't mean you are guilty by association. The funny thing is it's a groupie chick he seems to barely know. Some are acting like the person was a long time friend or something.

If anything you'd hope that he learns from this and doesn't allow anyone to tape him in personal settings like that, but people need to realize that single young superstars don't live the same type of lives as the rest of us. Some like to party, but once it doesn't interfere with their profession, big deal. I don't hear people complaining about Gronk, or is it because he hasn't been caught on video yet in a compromising situation at the many wild parties he usually attends?

Dude he was being handed a blunt on the video lol. No he "didn't inhale" from that video, but let's stop being naive here.

Football players (especially young ones about to be filthy rich) for the most part act stupid and do dumb things that OBJ is doing....my issue same with Peters is if they're so insanely talent why are their current teams trading or thinking about trading him???

Is there a video of Gronk sitting next to a chick cutting up lines? I'd bet money it would be talked about if there was lol.

Is maybe give them a second round this year and a third next year

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Dillesq:
Webzoners are delusional.

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
After Foster's recent arrest and OBJ's recent video, I doubt Lynch has any interest.

Lmao if you guys don't think we are interested in Odell then you aren't living in reality

Lynch wouldn't give up the 9th overall for OBJ.....thats obsurd.

You don't know what he would do. Why do people on WZ talk like they know Lynch personally lol

Trading the #9 pick for a big playmaker but not sure what you'll get out of him for the next couple of years (on and off the field) and on top of that paying him $17m+ a year......I don't know Lynch personally but I have to think he won't make that deal...lol. He didn't wanna pay Allen Robinson and he was cheaper.

See this is what I mean. You're characterizing things in a way that support your conclusion.

Let's talk about facts. Odell has never been in trouble off the field. Allen Robinson was coming off an ACL so there is concern of him not being the same. Odell broke a bone. He will be the same.

So you do know what you're getting on the field. To say otherwise is just complete madness. You pay him 17 mill because he's a top 2 WR in the league.

And again Odell has NEVER been in trouble off the field. He celebrates and gets emotional during games. Please stick to FACTS and not emotional arguments.

that video shows plenty of trouble

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It really doesn't. He's never failed a drug test or been arrested for possession of any illegal narcotics. Too many are jumping to conclusions over a 4 sec video.

it shows everything and what type of people he associates himself with. Just because he hasn't been arrested, it doesn't mean he isn't doing it

You realize you can probably say this about the majority of athletes and entertainers in the world right? Just because someone you associate with does drugs, it doesn't mean you are guilty by association. The funny thing is it's a groupie chick he seems to barely know. Some are acting like the person was a long time friend or something.

If anything you'd hope that he learns from this and doesn't allow anyone to tape him in personal settings like that, but people need to realize that single young superstars don't live the same type of lives as the rest of us. Some like to party, but once it doesn't interfere with their profession, big deal. I don't hear people complaining about Gronk, or is it because he hasn't been caught on video yet in a compromising situation at the many wild parties he usually attends?

if he does this with people he hardly associates with..one can only imagine his real friends

just because people aren't caught doesn't mean they are choir boys

While I'd love to see OBJ in the red and gold (he was my draft crush) and his talent is not in question...I mean could you imgaine him and Jimmy GQ?

(requires antonio banderas GIF no question)



NOW you have to thinking about all this stuff in regards to trading for him...

1-His injuries...he's played one full 16 game season since coming into the league
2-DIVA-Dude is a diva and there's no question about it.
3-MONEY-are we willing to pay him around $20 million per yr?
4-compensation-Do we want to go nuts and give up 1st and 2nd rd picks for a WR?
5 Video-While it's not a huge deal it has to be looked at a little (I doubt anything comes of it)

Those are a lot of things to think about acquiring OBJ.

is the juice worth the squeeze? I'd be in for a 2nd this yr and next...nothing more.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

You realize you can probably say this about the majority of athletes and entertainers in the world right? Just because someone you associate with does drugs, it doesn't mean you are guilty by association. The funny thing is it's a groupie chick he seems to barely know. Some are acting like the person was a long time friend or something.

If anything you'd hope that he learns from this and doesn't allow anyone to tape him in personal settings like that, but people need to realize that single young superstars don't live the same type of lives as the rest of us. Some like to party, but once it doesn't interfere with their profession, big deal. I don't hear people complaining about Gronk, or is it because he hasn't been caught on video yet in a compromising situation at the many wild parties he usually attends?

Dude he was being handed a blunt on the video lol. No he "didn't inhale" from that video, but let's stop being naive here.

Football players (especially young ones about to be filthy rich) for the most part act stupid and do dumb things that OBJ is doing....my issue same with Peters is if they're so insanely talent why are their current teams trading or thinking about trading him???

Is there a video of Gronk sitting next to a chick cutting up lines? I'd bet money it would be talked about if there was lol.

I don't think many care too much about the weed because it's a stupid rule considering the amount of dangerous pain medication NFL teams pump into their players to keep them playing. He has also never been busted for smoking, so at least he's smart enough to not get caught, which you can't say about many dumb players in the league, even though the system is set up to avoid detection, unless you are a complete idiot.

The biggest thing you take away from that video is the possible use of cocaine and you never see Beckham touching it.

Young people party. Young millionaires party harder. Young and famous millionaires do it on a larger scale, so you'd have to be pretty naive to think many athletes aren't in tons of situations that involve sex and drugs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

While I'd love to see OBJ in the red and gold (he was my draft crush) and his talent is not in question...I mean could you imgaine him and Jimmy GQ?

(requires antonio banderas GIF no question)



NOW you have to thinking about all this stuff in regards to trading for him...

1-His injuries...he's played one full 16 game season since coming into the league
2-DIVA-Dude is a diva and there's no question about it.
3-MONEY-are we willing to pay him around $20 million per yr?
4-compensation-Do we want to go nuts and give up 1st and 2nd rd picks for a WR?
5 Video-While it's not a huge deal it has to be looked at a little (I doubt anything comes of it)

Those are a lot of things to think about acquiring OBJ.

is the juice worth the squeeze? I'd be in for a 2nd this yr and next...nothing more.

He's really only missed a lot of game at in 1 season and that's this season. And he missed the first 4 of his rookie season I believe. He's not injury prone. Just stop.

Every elite WR is a diva, that's why they're WRs lol. That's a non-issue. That shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Willingness to pay him is the only legit concern. Imo.

He doesn't get in trouble off the field. Has never got in trouble with the law.

Have you ever partied with models? They do coke like no other. Are you gonna not hang out with beautiful girls bc they do coke? Maybe you will, but Football players aren't uptight about that kind of stuff.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

I don't think many care too much about the weed because it's a stupid rule considering the amount of dangerous pain medication NFL teams pump into their players to keep them playing. He has also never been busted for smoking, so at least he's smart enough to not get caught, which you can't say about many dumb players in the league, even though the system is set up to avoid detection, unless you are a complete idiot.

The biggest thing you take away from that video is the possible use of cocaine and you never see Beckham touching it.

Young people party. Young millionaires party harder. Young and famous millionaires do it on a larger scale, so you'd have to be pretty naive to think many athletes aren't in tons of situations that involve sex and drugs.

The weeeeeeeeeddd is still illegal regardless if you think it's stupid.

The NFL makes it so you can smoke pounds of that sweet cheeba just don't get caught on camera, video, by the police etc... I mean don't have a bag of pot fall out of your bag during a press-conference and your set. Apparently players (including OBJ/foster half the league) can't follow those simple rules lol...hell if you've never violated the substance abuse policy you KNOW when you'll get tested lol.

Listen, if I'm trading for him that's not as big as of a deal compared to other things

Originally posted by Dillesq:

He's really only missed a lot of game at in 1 season and that's this season. And he missed the first 4 of his rookie season I believe. He's not injury prone. Just stop.

Every elite WR is a diva, that's why they're WRs lol. That's a non-issue. That shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Willingness to pay him is the only legit concern. Imo.

He doesn't get in trouble off the field. Has never got in trouble with the law.

Have you ever partied with models? They do coke like no other. Are you gonna not hang out with beautiful girls bc they do coke? Maybe you will, but Football players aren't uptight about that kind of stuff.

Rice wasn't a diva? And you know what I mean...it's distractions. T.O had plently of them and got moved how many times? Randy Moss?

Ah yeah, I party with models like every other weekend duh lol. You see that video, he was at a freaking holiday inn express eating domino's while some skank (Whom he was trying to get to bang his buddy) was setting up some weak ass lines lol. Gotta be smarter than that...you're asking for $20+ million a yr then letting some idiot videotape you doing something sketchy? Come man...if a 49er did that half the fan base would be going insane lol.

Like I said I'm down to see OBJ in SF, but there's a reason as to why he's possibly on the block and it goes further than just not wanting to pay him. Let's stop pretending like there's not some issues. Mara is a very good owner and you got him saying things like "distractions" imo that's a issue.

I'm not throwing a first for him I'll tell ya that much.

They are all saying he's not on the trade block now. Hopefully this can all end now

Originally posted by braap49er:

They are all saying he's not on the trade block now. Hopefully this can all end now

All that means is their not openly shopping him...they'll listen to offeres without question