Originally posted by SFrush:Originally posted by Dillesq:Originally posted by Hopper:Agree to disagree there.
I meant top 5. It's number 5. QB. Tackle. Edge rusher. CB. WR.
Not even top 5.
Yes it is. We just disagree.
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Mar 27, 2018 at 5:51 PM
- Dillesq
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Yes it is. We just disagree.
Mar 27, 2018 at 6:44 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:How many games did he help them win the year before when he was healthy and putting up crazy #s? Their whole team sucked ass this year do not sure why you are insinuating he's the reason they couldn't win in those few games he played?
NY won in 2016 because of that top 10 defense not because of one WR.
Mar 27, 2018 at 6:48 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:How many games did he help them win the year before when he was healthy and putting up crazy #s? Their whole team sucked ass this year do not sure why you are insinuating he's the reason they couldn't win in those few games he played?
NY won in 2016 because of that top 10 defense not because of one WR.
And they didnt start off 0-4 because of their top WR.
Mar 27, 2018 at 6:58 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:How many games did he help them win the year before when he was healthy and putting up crazy #s? Their whole team sucked ass this year do not sure why you are insinuating he's the reason they couldn't win in those few games he played?
NY won in 2016 because of that top 10 defense not because of one WR.
And they didnt start off 0-4 because of their top WR.
So we should pay him $20 million per yr and give up a s**t ton of picks
I'm a fan and it would be awesome but imo the capital to give up to make it a reality isn't worth it.
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Mar 27, 2018 at 7:00 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:So we should pay him $20 million per yr and give up a s**t ton of picks
I'm a fan and it would be awesome but imo the capital to give up to make it a reality it's worth it.
Again, it's dependent on the value. He's still young and it is still probable that anyone we select in the draft can end up sucking. At least you know what you're getting with ODB.
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:09 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:How many games did he help them win the year before when he was healthy and putting up crazy #s? Their whole team sucked ass this year do not sure why you are insinuating he's the reason they couldn't win in those few games he played?
NY won in 2016 because of that top 10 defense not because of one WR.
And they didnt start off 0-4 because of their top WR.
So we should pay him $20 million per yr and give up a s**t ton of picks
I'm a fan and it would be awesome but imo the capital to give up to make it a reality isn't worth it.
My point was I have no idea why you keep bringing up how they started the season and asking how did he help them win. And he's not going to get $20 mil...he's most likely get AB money...which if we go by his production and age, then yes he's worth that. And giving up say #9 and a mid-late round pick is fair value for arguably the best WR in the game, who's still young. Throwing a 2nd at them is not going to get it done...that was my other point . I have lots of points lol
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:12 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:My point was I have no idea why you keep bringing up how they started the season and asking how did he help them win. And he's not going to get $20 mil...he's most likely get AB money...which if we go by his production and age, then yes he's worth that. And giving up say #9 and a mid-late round pick is fair value for arguably the best WR in the game, who's still young. Throwing a 2nd at them is not going to get it done...that was my other point . I have lots of points lol
Trying to reason with people on this forum is futile. According them Suh isn't good anymore. And the rams won't even make the playoffs bc the theyre all going to kill each other by week 6.
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:16 PM
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Originally posted by Dillesq:Trying to reason with people on this forum is futile. According them Suh isn't good anymore. And the rams won't even make the playoffs bc the theyre all going to kill each other by week 6.
I mean some of the points are valid and I agree ...but other times it feels like folks are burying their head in the sand and just repeating the same thing over over again...almost more like they need to convince themselves lol
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:19 PM
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one point you guys missed is when a WR receives this much hype and starts acting like a diva..their play starts to drop
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:22 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:I mean some of the points are valid and I agree ...but other times it feels like folks are burying their head in the sand and just repeating the same thing over over again...almost more like they need to convince themselves lol
There are concerns. But people are spending more time trying to convince themselves than actually looking at the facts. And since he was out with a broken ankle last year people forget how dominant he was in that horrible offense.
But i get. People take up positions that no amount of logic or reasoning will get them out of it. No reason to really beat a dead horse
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:30 PM
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I mean. Just imagine. A guy who was the fastest to 300 catches ever. On a team with no other threat, a bad o line and a declining Eli Manning. I can't even begin to imagine what he does in Shanny's offense. I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE
Mar 27, 2018 at 7:46 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:How many games did he help them win the year before when he was healthy and putting up crazy #s? Their whole team sucked ass this year do not sure why you are insinuating he's the reason they couldn't win in those few games he played?
NY won in 2016 because of that top 10 defense not because of one WR.
Plus their offense way underachieved that year as a whole
Mar 27, 2018 at 8:11 PM
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Originally posted by Dillesq:I mean. Just imagine. A guy who was the fastest to 300 catches ever. On a team with no other threat, a bad o line and a declining Eli Manning. I can't even begin to imagine what he does in Shanny's offense. I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE
This. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. If we find a way to trade for Beckham, the combo of Shanahan, Garoppolo, and Beckham has a chance to be better than the offense that Shanahan had in Atlanta, and that Falcons offense was pretty scary.
Mar 27, 2018 at 8:12 PM
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Originally posted by Dillesq:I mean. Just imagine. A guy who was the fastest to 300 catches ever. On a team with no other threat, a bad o line and a declining Eli Manning. I can't even begin to imagine what he does in Shanny's offense. I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE
Unstoppable with his route running coupled with Jimmy's elite release
Mar 27, 2018 at 9:43 PM
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Originally posted by Nastastical:
Originally posted by Dillesq:
I mean. Just imagine. A guy who was the fastest to 300 catches ever. On a team with no other threat, a bad o line and a declining Eli Manning. I can't even begin to imagine what he does in Shanny's offense. I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE
This. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. If we find a way to trade for Beckham, the combo of Shanahan, Garoppolo, and Beckham has a chance to be better than the offense that Shanahan had in Atlanta, and that Falcons offense was pretty scary.
Originally posted by Nastastical:We better make a trade for odell beckham jr. if not the LA rams will trade for him and they will win the super bowl this year ! who ever trades for odell beckham the niners or the rams that's who is gonna be the top dog in this division moving forward.
Originally posted by Dillesq:
I mean. Just imagine. A guy who was the fastest to 300 catches ever. On a team with no other threat, a bad o line and a declining Eli Manning. I can't even begin to imagine what he does in Shanny's offense. I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE
This. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. If we find a way to trade for Beckham, the combo of Shanahan, Garoppolo, and Beckham has a chance to be better than the offense that Shanahan had in Atlanta, and that Falcons offense was pretty scary.