49ERS release Mike Person

Mike Person, former 7th rd pick, is playing very good at RG, he has some nice blocks, and opened holes for Breida and Morris sunday. A solid player for the price tag, minimum salary.

Freaking stud! He has been a saving grace inside!

Ha! Title is "49ers sign Missing Person".. immediately thought this was a Soloman Thomas thread!

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Mike Person, former 7th rd pick, is playing very good at RG, he has some nice blocks, and opened holes for Breida and Morris sunday. A solid player for the price tag, minimum salary.

He's been our best and most complete OL thus far.

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Freaking stud! He has been a saving grace inside!

He was supposed to be backup C and third G. And he turned out to be our best OL so far. I fully expect him to tear a knee next game.

Give this guy some love.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Give this guy some love.

Top 5 Offensive PFF grades vs the Cardinals:

Mike McGlinchey - 87.2
Mike Person - 79.9
Kyle Juszczyk - 78.3
Laken Tomlinson - 71.3
Joe Staley - 70.2

This game was not lost in the trenches.

— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) October 8, 2018

Best 49er under the radar signing this past offseason imo. He's not overpowering and won't win against top competition, but he gets the job done in most cases. Pending FA is going to be 31 entering 2019 season. I think he has to be re-signed because who knows what Garnett will do.

Yes, Person got better as the yr rolled on. But against superior talent he has had some problems, as would many OGs in the game. IF you all think this is good enough, and he can protect JG, fine. If not, then we upgrade. We have had some games where one of our 3 QBs was under attack from the gitgo. I just want a guy to protect our FRANCHISE. If. Person can do that , fine. If not, then we need an upgrade.

I saw him miss some blocks, but i also saw him play well. He is way bettter than whatever we had there in the last two yrs however, so i am neutral on whether we need an upgrade or not.

Like it or not, kyle has to show this yr that he does care about protecting his Qb. The hits , beatings, sacks and other abuse our QBs got this yr and last, were just way above where they should have been..and if that continues, then kyle isnt the great HC i thot he would be. Part of the job is getting the talent. The other equally important part, esp at FR QB, is protecting the talent and it has seemed kyle gives that short shrift.

Originally posted by thl408:

Best 49er under the radar signing this past offseason imo. He's not overpowering and won't win against top competition, but he gets the job done in most cases. Pending FA is going to be 31 entering 2019 season. I think he has to be re-signed because who knows what Garnett will do.

He was a lot better than anticipated. Did a good job. Ideally I'd like to see them try to acquire an upgrade and let Person be quality, reliable depth.

Mark Schlereth was on the radio today talking about OL play in the NFL and he said something that I agreed with and which made me think of Person. He said that with a smart playcaller, you can scheme your way around numerous flaws in your OL....between the 20s. The closer you get to the goalline, the more contingent it is upon your guys to flat out win their individual matchups. The more linemen that you have who struggle to do that, the more issues you'll have scoring in the redzone.


I do think upgrading right guard to someone who can better physically hold up in those situations is going to be very important.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

He was a lot better than anticipated. Did a good job. Ideally I'd like to see them try to acquire an upgrade and let Person be quality, reliable depth.

Mark Schlereth was on the radio today talking about OL play in the NFL and he said something that I agreed with and which made me think of Person. He said that with a smart playcaller, you can scheme your way around numerous flaws in your OL....between the 20s. The closer you get to the goalline, the more contingent it is upon your guys to flat out win their individual matchups. The more linemen that you have who struggle to do that, the more issues you'll have scoring in the redzone.


I do think upgrading right guard to someone who can better physically hold up in those situations is going to be very important.

I think that really summarizes our Oline play and Kyle's ability to scheme. He makes them perform to a higher level than they would normally under an average OC.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:
Best 49er under the radar signing this past offseason imo. He's not overpowering and won't win against top competition, but he gets the job done in most cases. Pending FA is going to be 31 entering 2019 season. I think he has to be re-signed because who knows what Garnett will do.

He was a lot better than anticipated. Did a good job. Ideally I'd like to see them try to acquire an upgrade and let Person be quality, reliable depth.

Mark Schlereth was on the radio today talking about OL play in the NFL and he said something that I agreed with and which made me think of Person. He said that with a smart playcaller, you can scheme your way around numerous flaws in your OL....between the 20s. The closer you get to the goalline, the more contingent it is upon your guys to flat out win their individual matchups. The more linemen that you have who struggle to do that, the more issues you'll have scoring in the redzone.

I do think upgrading right guard to someone who can better physically hold up in those situations is going to be very important.

That makes a lot of sense about how deficiencies are magnified in the red zone. Right guard can be upgraded for sure, but is it a situation where the 49ers just re-sign Person and move on to other things, or spend good capital on an upgrade for 2019? I feel there are other, more impactful positions to spend a day 2 pick on. No idea what the Guard free agent market is like.
I'm okay with 'solid' at guard. Unlike FS, WLB, Edge, OT (Staley replacement) where 'solid' is not good enough.

Originally posted by thl408:

That makes a lot of sense about how deficiencies are magnified in the red zone. Right guard can be upgraded for sure, but is it a situation where the 49ers just re-sign Person and move on to other things, or spend good capital on an upgrade for 2019? I feel there are other, more impactful positions to spend a day 2 pick on. No idea what the Guard free agent market is like.
I'm okay with 'solid' at guard. Unlike FS, WLB, Edge, OT (Staley replacement) where 'solid' is not good enough.

Depends on the player you get. A guard like Will Hernandez of the Giants who has the power to flat out maul people, but quick enough feet and the agility to work to the second level consistently? I'd drop a 2nd rounder for that guy all day.


But otherwise I do agree that some other positions demand higher priority treatment.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

That makes a lot of sense about how deficiencies are magnified in the red zone. Right guard can be upgraded for sure, but is it a situation where the 49ers just re-sign Person and move on to other things, or spend good capital on an upgrade for 2019? I feel there are other, more impactful positions to spend a day 2 pick on. No idea what the Guard free agent market is like.
I'm okay with 'solid' at guard. Unlike FS, WLB, Edge, OT (Staley replacement) where 'solid' is not good enough.

Depends on the player you get. A guard like Will Hernandez of the Giants who has the power to flat out maul people, but quick enough feet and the agility to work to the second level consistently? I'd drop a 2nd rounder for that guy all day.


But otherwise I do agree that some other positions demand higher priority treatment.

We definitely need someone who can manhandle the lineman across from them inside the 20. The poor numbers of rushing touchdowns in the red zone are a big identifier of the line having deficiencies. You can also point to the fact that we simply can't run when teams know we're going to run. Thus, we choke away games because we don't have the caliber of players up front that can dominate the LOS whether the defense expects run or not and we can't get the final first down to put the game away.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

Best 49er under the radar signing this past offseason imo. He's not overpowering and won't win against top competition, but he gets the job done in most cases. Pending FA is going to be 31 entering 2019 season. I think he has to be re-signed because who knows what Garnett will do.

He was a lot better than anticipated. Did a good job. Ideally I'd like to see them try to acquire an upgrade and let Person be quality, reliable depth.

Mark Schlereth was on the radio today talking about OL play in the NFL and he said something that I agreed with and which made me think of Person. He said that with a smart playcaller, you can scheme your way around numerous flaws in your OL....between the 20s. The closer you get to the goalline, the more contingent it is upon your guys to flat out win their individual matchups. The more linemen that you have who struggle to do that, the more issues you'll have scoring in the redzone.

I do think upgrading right guard to someone who can better physically hold up in those situations is going to be very important.

That makes a lot of sense about how deficiencies are magnified in the red zone. Right guard can be upgraded for sure, but is it a situation where the 49ers just re-sign Person and move on to other things, or spend good capital on an upgrade for 2019? I feel there are other, more impactful positions to spend a day 2 pick on. No idea what the Guard free agent market is like.
I'm okay with 'solid' at guard. Unlike FS, WLB, Edge, OT (Staley replacement) where 'solid' is not good enough.

I like Person but with the exception of Staley, the whole line regressed the second half of the year. Person at one point was the #4 overall G and dropped to #18 or so. It's PFF but gives you an idea of decline. Similar to Tomlinson and McGlinchey. Richburg was just consistently bad.

I've never been one to want to get by with average G's...just too many good interior rushers now and we gave up 124 QB hits (31st) and we know, 99% of those were right up the gut. And we have Garropolo coming back from an ACL...we want him stepping up in that? No thanks!

I think P's point is sound. The RZ really does magnify everything including our skill positions ability to win physically or beat DB's consistently with clean routes.

I like P's approach. I'd target Mark Glowinski from the Colts for RG and see if Mike Person wants to resign as a backup. He could probably get starter money like Fusco though. A top G is going to cost you $10M though and if we didn't want to pay for Norwell, we may not go this route again.

Either way, I'd still use our #35 pick on a LT or G and maybe a second tier C in FA to push Richburg. If we didn't sign Glowinski, then Person is a must.

LT - Need a talented developmental LT to train under Staley this year.
LG - Tomlinson badly needs competition to push him
C - Might need talent and real competition
RG - Need talent and depth.
RT - We good (depth in Shon Coleman)

Phoenix, have you guys identified any T/G we can target with pick #35?