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49ERS release Mike Person

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Originally posted by NCommand:
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Best 49er under the radar signing this past offseason imo. He's not overpowering and won't win against top competition, but he gets the job done in most cases. Pending FA is going to be 31 entering 2019 season. I think he has to be re-signed because who knows what Garnett will do.


He was a lot better than anticipated. Did a good job. Ideally I'd like to see them try to acquire an upgrade and let Person be quality, reliable depth.

Mark Schlereth was on the radio today talking about OL play in the NFL and he said something that I agreed with and which made me think of Person. He said that with a smart playcaller, you can scheme your way around numerous flaws in your OL....between the 20s. The closer you get to the goalline, the more contingent it is upon your guys to flat out win their individual matchups. The more linemen that you have who struggle to do that, the more issues you'll have scoring in the redzone.

I do think upgrading right guard to someone who can better physically hold up in those situations is going to be very important.
That makes a lot of sense about how deficiencies are magnified in the red zone. Right guard can be upgraded for sure, but is it a situation where the 49ers just re-sign Person and move on to other things, or spend good capital on an upgrade for 2019? I feel there are other, more impactful positions to spend a day 2 pick on. No idea what the Guard free agent market is like.
I'm okay with 'solid' at guard. Unlike FS, WLB, Edge, OT (Staley replacement) where 'solid' is not good enough.

I like Person but with the exception of Staley, the whole line regressed the second half of the year. Person at one point was the #4 overall G and dropped to #18 or so. It's PFF but gives you an idea of decline. Similar to Tomlinson and McGlinchey. Richburg was just consistently bad.

I've never been one to want to get by with average G's...just too many good interior rushers now and we gave up 124 QB hits (31st) and we know, 99% of those were right up the gut. And we have Garropolo coming back from an ACL...we want him stepping up in that?

No thanks. I think P's point is sound. The RZ really does magnify everything including our skill positions ability to win physically or beat DB's consistently with routes.

I like P's approach. I'd target Mark Glowinski from the Colts for RG and see if Mike Person wants to resign as a backup. He could probably get starter money like Fusco. A top G is going to cost you $10M though and if we didn't want Norwell, we may not go this route either.

But if so, I'd still use our #35 pick on a LT or G and maybe a second tier C in FA to push Richburg.

LT - Need a talented developmental LT to train under Staley this year.
LG - Tomlinson badly needs competition to push him
C - Might need talent and real competition
RG - Need talent and depth.
RT - We good (depth in Shon Coleman)

Hard to disagree with wanting to protect Jimmy Franchise. I'd be good with spending a day 2 pick on an OT if there's one there to be had. Prefer to replace Person with a signing in FA although I don't know who Glowinski is or who else is out there. Person is a journeyman player so I'm more inclined to classify his 2018 season as an outlier, that he was a functional player. I'm okay with bringing him back, but am totally open to upgrading.
Andy Levitre should be the target in Free Agency. Has experience with Shanahan and is a bay area guy.
Originally posted by thl408:
Hard to disagree with wanting to protect Jimmy Franchise. I'd be good with spending a day 2 pick on an OT if there's one there to be had. Prefer to replace Person with a signing in FA although I don't know who Glowinski is or who else is out there. Person is a journeyman player so I'm more inclined to classify his 2018 season as an outlier, that he was a functional player. I'm okay with bringing him back, but am totally open to upgrading.

Totally. I was very very pleased with Person. Given he was specifically brought in to add depth at C and G (replace Beadles), he beat out Cooper and Garnett, two former first round G's.

All you need to know about Glowinski is that he starts for the Colts OL...the best OL in the game right now.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 3, 2019 at 2:40 PM ]
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Andy Levitre should be the target in Free Agency. Has experience with Shanahan and is a bay area guy.

Maybe as depth? He's already 33 years old.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
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Hard to disagree with wanting to protect Jimmy Franchise. I'd be good with spending a day 2 pick on an OT if there's one there to be had. Prefer to replace Person with a signing in FA although I don't know who Glowinski is or who else is out there. Person is a journeyman player so I'm more inclined to classify his 2018 season as an outlier, that he was a functional player. I'm okay with bringing him back, but am totally open to upgrading.

Totally. I was very very pleased with Person. Given he was specifically brought in to add depth at C and G (replace Beadles), he beat out Cooper and Garnett, two former first round G's.

All you need to know about Glowinski is that he starts for the Colts OL...the best OL in the game right now.

Is he a mover though? Agile and able to fit the run game? I see him and Chance Warmack as young vets. Not gonna lie, I can name about 8 guards in the NFL that aren't on the 49ers or aren't ex-49ers.
Bringing back Mike should be the 1st move we make this offseason.
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Is he a mover though? Agile and able to fit the run game? I see him and Chance Warmack as young vets. Not gonna lie, I can name about 8 guards in the NFL that aren't on the 49ers or aren't ex-49ers.

Yeah.

Colts will emphasize zone blocking in the new offense (implications for Nelson and other good and bad fits)

This was a hot topic because the Colts fans knew they'd be in position to get Quentin Nelson and he 'seemed' like a better fit for power.


When you make OL a priority, this can happen in one year.

[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 3, 2019 at 3:40 PM ]
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Alright. Bring in this Glowinski guy. IND for sure emphasized OL and went hard to upgrade it. But going from Jacoby Brissett to Luck surely helps OL sack numbers. I don't watch IND games so not sure what other factors may have contributed to the improvement.

While I'd love to have 5 good OLmen across the line, I know there are only so many things the 49ers can do in an offseason regarding signings and picks. Something about drafting a guard day 2 doesn't seem like the right thing to do when there are bigger (imo) needs at FS, ILB, Edge, OT. Wish I knew more about the Guard free agents to make a suggestion. Person can come back on a 2 year deal. Perhaps make it a 3 year deal but he never sees year 3.
Originally posted by thl408:
Alright. Bring in this Glowinski guy. IND for sure emphasized OL and went hard to upgrade it. But going from Jacoby Brissett to Luck surely helps OL sack numbers. I don't watch IND games so not sure what other factors may have contributed to the improvement.

While I'd love to have 5 good OLmen across the line, I know there are only so many things the 49ers can do in an offseason regarding signings and picks. Something about drafting a guard day 2 doesn't seem like the right thing to do when there are bigger (imo) needs at FS, ILB, Edge, OT. Wish I knew more about the Guard free agents to make a suggestion. Person can come back on a 2 year deal. Perhaps make it a 3 year deal but he never sees year 3.

No doubt, Luck getting his groove back has certainly helped. I don't know much about their skill positions (that's another big one on getting the ball out quickly).

Yeah, I hear you. There are still so many other needs, I get it. Maybe you can get away with Tomlinson, Richburg and Person for one more year based on continuity/health and perhaps, adding a top flight WR.

Then Garoppolo should have plenty of quick receiving threats to pass to under 2.5 seconds: Jet, Cheetah, Juice, Goodwin, Pettis, Kittle & ZWR (he still might take a bunch of hits though).

I wanted Chris Ballard badly as our GM but it just wasn't an option unfortunately. I think he's building up those lines first though and it's showing. Ballard did all he could to protect Andrew Luck who was coming back from a serious injury. And it clearly paid off.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 4, 2019 at 7:05 AM ]
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Person is probably trying to leverage his one good season (2018) into a big contract, by his standards. He's been working with one/two year deals his entire career. Give him a 3 year deal that's really a two year deal, but continue to look for an upgrade (similar to Kilgore being extended last season). Bringing Person back at least brings some continuity back. I just hope 2018 wasn't a big fluke since Person had been playing at journeyman level prior.

What I'd find scary is Garnett being plan A (at RG) coming into the free agency signing period, or Garnett/Magnusson vs rookie in training camp. That's too risky.
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