Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bringing in one of Harris or Dareus would be a solid move...won't hold my breath.
They gotta do something they lost 1,130 snaps between Buck/Day
This. Been banging the table for Harris for a week now. Solid football player but not holding my breath either.
Who do you think the best interior defensive tackle available? Overall against the run/pass. I prefer the best pass rusher out of them
As far as fa Shelby Harris is the best available out there overall imo. He played terrific two years ago in a rotational role so Denver increased his snap count last year and made him the starter. He wasn't as effective as the year before but still had a nice season and was above average imo. Finished with a respectable 6 sacks as well.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by mayo49:
They may be looking to the draft to fill the Buck void with that #13 pick. But, I agree it maybe too little too late.
That would suck...having to use real draft capital on trying to replace Buckner...because you chose to trade him leaving a huge void. That's a net loss there too.
Was it a net loss when they drafted McGlinchy and traded Brown. I know you are going to cry not a scheme fit blah blah blah. But no it was not a loss it was an excellent move.
Even. Lost on pass protection big time but gained in OZ run blocking. And then Kyle decided to add a ton of IZ, man, power, etc...all things TB was great at. LOL. But at least they didn't have to pay Brown's contract...like Buckner!
Even? Maybe play wise but tb will cost the raiders 21.5mill this year and mm will cost 5.092 that's a difference of 16.4 million. That's the difference of having multiple players that are currently under contract with this team.
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are we back to this again. we pursued suh. we had interest or have interest. i get the media wants to be the first with any news for nfl and sports starved fans. but i wish they would stop saying we have or had a interest in hindset, makes me nuts
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Originally posted by NCommand:
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Yeah this is pathetic we could've easily gotten an interior defensive tackle to help with the loss of Buckner, a corner like a trufant or some of the others signed would not of been a bad idea as well. I understand not signing Peat on the IOL because he was a rip off but come on.
Even if most of you feel like we were being prudent, keep in mind our salary cap position next year it will be close to 60 million so we could've easily restructured one more contract or let go of a player or two to compensate for signing a good player to help our team immediately.
We're forgetting the Saints improved their roster and so did Seattle. We still have to try to outscore teams like Kansas City Seattle or the Saints or if we play Baltimore In the Super Bowl we still have to put up points against their good defense. It's not just about our team it's about who we will be facing and how they improved their teams While we remain idle And rely on our rookie class to make an immediate impact? Yeah how often does that work out
I'm not convinced that the Saints got better. They lost Von Bell, Klein and Bridgewater while gaining Emmanuel Sanders.
And with less cap than us.
Saints cap space: $2,246,100 (per Spotrac)
Players under contract: 58 (per Spotrac)
Team needs: QB, G, WR, LB, CB, S, FB
Here's a look at the team's moves so far, which will be updated constantly.
Re-Signings and Offseason Tracker
Taysom Hill tendered at the first round level by Saints. (source)Long-snapper
Zach Line to re-sign with New Orleans on a four-year deal. (source)(details)
David Onyemata expected to return to New Orleans on a three-year deal. (source)(details)
AJ Klein signed three-year deal with Buffalo Bills. (source)
Drew Brees returns to Saints on two-year, $50 million dollar deal. (source)(details)
Kiko Alonso to restructure deal in New Orleans to free up cap space. (source)
Patrick Robinson to restructure deal to free up cap space and stay with Saints in 2020. (source)
Eli Apple to sign with the Las Vegas Raiders. (source)
Saints to restructure contracts of Michael Thomas and Terron Armstead to free up additional cap space. (source)
Special teams ace JT Gray signed one-year extension with Saints for $750k. (source)
WR Keith Kirkwood to re-join Teddy Bridgewater and sign with Carolina Panthers. (source)
Saints re-signing OL Andrus Peat to five-year deal. (source)
Safety DJ Swearinger re-signing with Saints on one-year deal. (source)
Noah Spence re-signing with Saints. (source)
Janoris Jenkins agrees to a restructured contract with Saints. (source)
Vonn Bell to sign with Cincinnati Bengals. (source)
New Players
Former Saints S Malcolm Jenkins returning to New Orleans. (source)
Saints signing fullback Michael Burton to replace the retired Zach Line. (source)
WR Emmanuel Sanders to sign with New Orleans Saints on two-year deal. (source)
XFL's interception leader Deatrick Nichols signing with Saints. (source)
https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2020/3/16/21181038/2020-new-orleans-saints-free-agency-and-rumor-tracker-news-contracts-updates-signings
Saints improved with Jenkins at safety and sanders at wr.
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This FO was preparing for this offseason early on. They have been signing players since January. They knew they were not going to be big players in free agency we all knew they were not going to be big players. But to say that they have done nothing is wrong. If you have been watching they have added players with potential since January and if they hit on two or three for depth and rotational players its a win. Some of the players they have added. Jonathan kongbo de, Alex Barrett de, Henry Willie dt, was a player I thought would've helped before the super bowl. Ray Smith dt, Teez Tabor db, Jermaine Kelly db, Derrick Kindred db, Jacob Thieneman db, Chris Edwards db, Jake Brendel C, Jaryd Jones Smith OT, Leonard Wester ot, Kofi Amichia ot, Joey Alfieri lb. there are some interesting players in this early grouping and they are still going to be adding by the draft.
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Originally posted by Izyniner:
Was it a net loss when they drafted McGlinchy and traded Brown. I know you are going to cry not a scheme fit blah blah blah. But no it was not a loss it was an excellent move.
Very true but you can't compare buckner to brown in the slightest.
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Originally posted by cciowa:
are we back to this again. we pursued suh. we had interest or have interest. i get the media wants to be the first with any news for nfl and sports starved fans. but i wish they would stop saying we have or had a interest in hindset, makes me nuts
Same. s**t's pathetic. If I did that at work, I'd fire immediately.
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bringing in one of Harris or Dareus would be a solid move...won't hold my breath.
They gotta do something they lost 1,130 snaps between Buck/Day
This. Been banging the table for Harris for a week now. Solid football player but not holding my breath either.
Who do you think the best interior defensive tackle available? Overall against the run/pass. I prefer the best pass rusher out of them
As far as fa Shelby Harris is the best available out there overall imo. He played terrific two years ago in a rotational role so Denver increased his snap count last year and made him the starter. He wasn't as effective as the year before but still had a nice season and was above average imo. Finished with a respectable 6 sacks as well.
Led his position at deflected passes (DP
)sign me up wow. Super impressed and he didn't play a ton of snaps. Lynch get on the f**king phone and sign this guy..... unless you want Seattle to get him
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Was it a net loss when they drafted McGlinchy and traded Brown. I know you are going to cry not a scheme fit blah blah blah. But no it was not a loss it was an excellent move.
Very true but you can't compare buckner to brown in the slightest.
Granted Buckner is the better player but monetarily they are making about the same in 2020. Mcglinchy is going to be be making a third of what tb is getting paid. Bucks replacement is yet to be known but if it's the 13 pick it will still be less
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Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by cciowa:
are we back to this again. we pursued suh. we had interest or have interest. i get the media wants to be the first with any news for nfl and sports starved fans. but i wish they would stop saying we have or had a interest in hindset, makes me nuts
Same. s**t's pathetic. If I did that at work, I'd fire immediately.
Simple fix quit reading the tweets.
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Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Was it a net loss when they drafted McGlinchy and traded Brown. I know you are going to cry not a scheme fit blah blah blah. But no it was not a loss it was an excellent move.
Very true but you can't compare buckner to brown in the slightest.
Granted Buckner is the better player but monetarily they are making about the same in 2020. Mcglinchy is going to be be making a third of what tb is getting paid. Bucks replacement is yet to be known but if it's the 13 pick it will still be less
From a monetary standpoint we will be in a better position but that's about it because Buckner was an all pro and we have nobody yet to replace his production whereas when we let go of Brown we got somebody immediately. We have to wait and see but in my opinion if we don't draft the tackle to replace Buckner at 13 the production won't even be close to being replaced. I'm all in for Harris on the Broncos. Between him and DJ Jones and Solomon Thomas I'm sure we can replace 70% of his production and to me that's a big win with the money we will be saving
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bringing in one of Harris or Dareus would be a solid move...won't hold my breath.
They gotta do something they lost 1,130 snaps between Buck/Day
This. Been banging the table for Harris for a week now. Solid football player but not holding my breath either.
Who do you think the best interior defensive tackle available? Overall against the run/pass. I prefer the best pass rusher out of them
As far as fa Shelby Harris is the best available out there overall imo. He played terrific two years ago in a rotational role so Denver increased his snap count last year and made him the starter. He wasn't as effective as the year before but still had a nice season and was above average imo. Finished with a respectable 6 sacks as well.
Led his position at deflected passes (DP )sign me up wow. Super impressed and he didn't play a ton of snaps. Lynch get on the f**king phone and sign this guy..... unless you want Seattle to get him
Harris is the #1 FA right now I'd hope the Niners would sign. I wonder how much he'd cost - more or less than what Suh got?
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Was it a net loss when they drafted McGlinchy and traded Brown. I know you are going to cry not a scheme fit blah blah blah. But no it was not a loss it was an excellent move.
Very true but you can't compare buckner to brown in the slightest.
Granted Buckner is the better player but monetarily they are making about the same in 2020. Mcglinchy is going to be be making a third of what tb is getting paid. Bucks replacement is yet to be known but if it's the 13 pick it will still be less
From a monetary standpoint we will be in a better position but that's about it because Buckner was an all pro and we have nobody yet to replace his production whereas when we let go of Brown we got somebody immediately. We have to wait and see but in my opinion if we don't draft the tackle to replace Buckner at 13 the production won't even be close to being replaced. I'm all in for Harris on the Broncos. Between him and DJ Jones and Solomon Thomas I'm sure we can replace 70% of his production and to me that's a big win with the money we will be saving
Right on we are on the same page. I will miss Buck one of my favorite players. I don't know enough about Harris but there will be others to fill the void.
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bringing in one of Harris or Dareus would be a solid move...won't hold my breath.
They gotta do something they lost 1,130 snaps between Buck/Day
This. Been banging the table for Harris for a week now. Solid football player but not holding my breath either.
Who do you think the best interior defensive tackle available? Overall against the run/pass. I prefer the best pass rusher out of them
As far as fa Shelby Harris is the best available out there overall imo. He played terrific two years ago in a rotational role so Denver increased his snap count last year and made him the starter. He wasn't as effective as the year before but still had a nice season and was above average imo. Finished with a respectable 6 sacks as well.
Led his position at deflected passes (DP )sign me up wow. Super impressed and he didn't play a ton of snaps. Lynch get on the f**king phone and sign this guy..... unless you want Seattle to get him
Harris is the #1 FA right now I'd hope the Niners would sign. I wonder how much he'd cost - more or less than what Suh got?
I would say 6-7 mil. And since we keep missing out on players like the center that went to the Jets and also Suh I would like to maybe spend one extra f**king million to lock in a player that we absolutely need.
If DJ Jones was a model of Health and Solomon Thomas was not such a bust or an underachiever, I would not be banging the table for this guy. But we need him especially since we saw what deflected passes can do to a team
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Harris makes too much sense
Of course.
Which means we are absolutely not going to sign him. Sorry!