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Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

So they rather regress to save money? The only upgrade is Watson and if the rumors are true to them Darnold as well, you run it back with Jimmy, draft a qb, make the oline better and just not have Mullens or Beathard as back ups.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

So they rather regress to save money? The only upgrade is Watson and if the rumors are true to them Darnold as well, you run it back with Jimmy, draft a qb, make the oline better and just not have Mullens or Beathard as back ups.

I'm not against that, we shall see, but I personally can't wait to see what goes down lol very much on the edge of my seat this off-season.
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Assuming the reports that we showed interest for Teddy are true then it is 1 of 2 things.

1. As you said, they are looking at potential cheaper vet options that they can pair with a rookie QB. A vet they don't have to pay 20+ mil who can start week 1 if the rookie is not ready or they simply don't want to rush him onto the field.

2. They are simply checking to see what the market for Teddy might be. Teddy's market and value could have an impact on what Jimmy's value might be.

Again this is assuming the report of interest in Bridgewater is true. There is no way in my mind that Kyle could see Teddy as his guy.
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Assuming the reports that we showed interest for Teddy are true then it is 1 of 2 things.

1. As you said, they are looking at potential cheaper vet options that they can pair with a rookie QB. A vet they don't have to pay 20+ mil who can start week 1 if the rookie is not ready or they simply don't want to rush him onto the field.

2. They are simply checking to see what the market for Teddy might be. Teddy's market and value could have an impact on what Jimmy's value might be.

Again this is assuming the report of interest in Bridgewater is true. There is no way in my mind that Kyle could see Teddy as his guy.

Yup I agree but I think there is no way in kyle sees or truly wants Jimmy as his QB, so I'm sure next season unless we trade for Watson or draft a QB in the 1st rd the off-season will be like this one, looking for that guy Kyle wants.
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Don't we save more money with Darnold? If it's about money then Darnold is the better option unless the Jets are asking for way more than the Panthers in compensation.
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Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Don't we save more money with Darnold? If it's about money then Darnold is the better option unless the Jets are asking for way more than the Panthers in compensation.

Darnold has been too s**tty to give up anything more than a 2nd round pick. Hard pass. How is he even an upgrade to Jimmy G??
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Don't we save more money with Darnold? If it's about money then Darnold is the better option unless the Jets are asking for way more than the Panthers in compensation.

Darnold has been too s**tty to give up anything more than a 2nd round pick. Hard pass. How is he even an upgrade to Jimmy G??

I honestly think Kyle already knows what he has in jimmy which is why he wants to upgrade, hes ceiling is where he's at I bet he thinks, Darnold is all about what if he has the right coaching, can I make him into a star ?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Don't we save more money with Darnold? If it's about money then Darnold is the better option unless the Jets are asking for way more than the Panthers in compensation.

Darnold has been too s**tty to give up anything more than a 2nd round pick. Hard pass. How is he even an upgrade to Jimmy G??

Depends on the perspective I guess.

Is Darnold plus 19mil minus a 2nd...
...equal lesser or better than...
Jimmy minus 27mil plus a 2nd?

I'll leave that one for those still interested in the Jimmy debate but for me outside of Watson any move to replace Jimmy is a $$$ saving exercise more than anything else and on that front there's more value in Darnold than Bridgewater.
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Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Don't we save more money with Darnold? If it's about money then Darnold is the better option unless the Jets are asking for way more than the Panthers in compensation.

Darnold has been too s**tty to give up anything more than a 2nd round pick. Hard pass. How is he even an upgrade to Jimmy G??

Depends on the perspective I guess.

Is Darnold plus 19mil minus a 2nd...
...equal lesser or better than...
Jimmy minus 27mil plus a 2nd?

I'll leave that one for those still interested in the Jimmy debate but for me outside of Watson any move to replace Jimmy is a $$$ saving exercise more than anything else and on that front there's more value in Darnold than Bridgewater.

But why would they save money now when there's really no need to?? The 49ers are sitting comfortable right now in terms of cap space.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But why would they save money now when there's really no need to?? The 49ers are sitting comfortable right now in terms of cap space.

To sign talented vets.
If they can ssve $20m and use it to get von miller, alex mack, and julio jones for example.

Are they better with that team and darnold(or draft pick) or last years team and JG.
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But why would they save money now when there's really no need to?? The 49ers are sitting comfortable right now in terms of cap space.

To sign talented vets.
If they can ssve $20m and use it to get von miller, alex mack, and julio jones for example.

Are they better with that team and darnold(or draft pick) or last years team and JG.

I'm definitely taking my chances with Darnold if they can add those 3 pieces, all he has to do is not f**k it up and pull a Mullens. If Watt got 31 mil guaranteed Miller is going to get a lot as well even tho he missed all of last year with an ankle
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Fake?

If they did they are off their damn rocker

I'm thinking the plan is to trade for Teddy,maybe a 3rd next year then trade Jimmy for a 2nd, and them move up in the draft for a QB while Teddy starts next year to give the rook time, save $ and get a better pick.

If that's their plan they're dumb as f**k because Bridgewater is a downgrade add the fact you piss off the the locker room and you have to hope he picks the system up quick. Don't think they get where they can if he's the starter, rather have Jimmy then draft a qb.

I bet they are thinking $, save almost 10 million with teddy, they don't want to pay Jimmy bc he's not worth it plus his high chance of injuries

Don't we save more money with Darnold? If it's about money then Darnold is the better option unless the Jets are asking for way more than the Panthers in compensation.

Darnold has been too s**tty to give up anything more than a 2nd round pick. Hard pass. How is he even an upgrade to Jimmy G??

Depends on the perspective I guess.

Is Darnold plus 19mil minus a 2nd...
...equal lesser or better than...
Jimmy minus 27mil plus a 2nd?

I'll leave that one for those still interested in the Jimmy debate but for me outside of Watson any move to replace Jimmy is a $$$ saving exercise more than anything else and on that front there's more value in Darnold than Bridgewater.

But why would they save money now when there's really no need to?? The 49ers are sitting comfortable right now in terms of cap space.

The question you got to ask is do you see Jimmy G as the future QB of Niners. If the answer is no, then I think it is unacceptable to be paying him what we are going to be paying him this season. It is just not in the best long-term interest of the team to pay him that kind of money if your plan is to replace him.

The 49ers are not that comfortable in cap space. Considering the number of players we have entering free agency. There are some massive holes we got to fill either by bringing players back, new free agents, or the final option of the draft. 23 mil in cap space might not be getting us as far as you think. Bringing Trent Williams back alone is going to cost somewhere around 20 mil. That would still leave us with huge glaring holes on the offensive line and in the secondary.

I will just use Darnold as an example. but you could potentially sign a cheaper vet with a rookie QB and save more money. 8 mil saved by swapping Jimmy for Darnold might not seem like a lot. But if you put it in these terms I think a lot more fans would be on board for it.

Would you rather have.....

Jimmy G and a terrible center or Darnold and Alex Mack?

Jimmy G and a huge hole at cornerback or Darnold and Verret.

Darnold and Trent Willams or Jimmy g and a poorer quality LT

Darnold and A pass rusher to compliment Bosa Or Jimmy G and no one.

I think when you put things in those terms more people would be looking to move on from Jimmy. Again more could be gained if we went even cheaper than someone like Darnold and went with a cheaper Vet Qb to pair with a Rookie.
[ Edited by Bloodless on Mar 7, 2021 at 10:30 AM ]
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Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But why would they save money now when there's really no need to?? The 49ers are sitting comfortable right now in terms of cap space.

To sign talented vets.
If they can ssve $20m and use it to get von miller, alex mack, and julio jones for example.

Are they better with that team and darnold(or draft pick) or last years team and JG.

Even when they had tons of cap space they were still conservative with it. Right now Trent Williams is the main goal and they have more than enough cap to get it done.
Dak is a free agent.
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