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Originally posted by blm7754:
Uh, Vance McDonald got a huge extension. He ain't going anywhere.

Lacy as a FB? No thanks.

Only way we have a chance at Cousins is if we hand over our #2 overall pick and next years 1st. Guy's a young top 10 QB. No way Washington let's him go for less than a king's ransom.

I like the Brad Kaaya pick though. Good developmental prospect.


Only reason I said fb for lacy is because you would be able to disguise screens with him and he's faster than the average fb.. just a thought I just wantEd to do a different mock it's all for fun.. lol

OK I think Washington would do it because 1 they'd get a qb they could start fresh with.. they obviously didn't think he is there guy or else they would have paid him already.. it just feels like there's a disconnect there. Plus he didn't make playoffs with a talented roster.. OK here's a lil more convincing deal we swap this year and give up a 2nd next year
Originally posted by 9erred:
Why would washington give us Kirk Cousins for simply swapping first round picks?? I understand why the niners would want that, but why would Washington??

I have heard on NFL network that Cousins is staying in Washington, they will not let him leave the building.

After what they've been thru w/QB's and other players - I don't blame them.
Why would we convert to a 4-3 when we drafted two 3-4 DEs in the first round back to back.
You got off to a bad start...they're not cutting VMac...signed him to a lucrative extension. They're also not cutting Torrey Smith. He'll have a new lease on life in Shanahan's offense. WRT the Cousins trade, it's highly unlikely...if the 'Skins don't reach a long-term agreement with him, they'll just franchise him again. Put yourself in their shoes...why would they let him go so easily...answer: they wouldn't. You need to have some sense of reality in your plan. Do some homework. More on that below. For example:

I can see them going after Chandler Jones...he's a good pass rusher & is just 27. Campbell is a beast, but another DE isn't really what our defense needs at this point. Another pass rusher is. So is a premier NT, like Brandon Williams.

Converting Lacy to FB isn't the answer...signing Pat DeMarco from the Falcons is.

Josh Gordon is a bad risk...all the talent in the world, but he doesn't have the mind to go with it. Now, Terrelle Pryor, that's another story. He's getting better & better each season and...no baggage.

Jacob Tamme's barely an average TE. Ok, he knows the system. But, with guys like Jack Doyle & Luke Wilson available, why settle for average.

Danny Woodhead. He's had some good seasons, but I think his best are behind him...he's now 32. Andre Ellington, 27, Jaquizz Rodgers, 27 & Lance Dunbar, 27 are all younger, faster & have considerably higher ceilings than Woodhead.

In your draft, you talk about Takarist McKinley...and how he'll improve our DL. He's an OLB...pls explain that one.

I like John Ross, but 'Bama totally frustrated him in the playoffs. He'll be facing defenses better than that in the NFL.

I'd take Pat Mahomes over Kaaya any day of the week...why? He's a baller...terrific arm, mobile, accurate and high football IQ. I see him as a player Shanahan would coach up to be a real NFL QB.

Here are a few websites I use for research & reference purposes...check 'em out and see what you think. They should be helpful.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2017OLB3-4.php

http://nfltraderumors.co/2017-nfl-free-agents-list/

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:rb

http://thehuddle.com/2016/articles/offensive-line-review-and-ratings.php

Once you do some homework, reattack your offseason plan. I'll look forward to seeing it.
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No thanks on that plan. Plus Ross in the 3rd is a great Value pick, especially since he will be gone in the first 35 picks.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh and Campbell in a 4-3 huh??

What he meant was converting Campbell to TE.
Originally posted by pho_t_9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Stopped reading when you said cut McDonald and smith

Edit: take that back really stopped reading with your FA list...sorry dude no bueno

McDonald can't stay healthy and Torrey Smith is highly overpaid for his production or lack thereof.

Yup both had a big pile of trash throwing them the ball as well, smith was productive with a real qb and Vance just got paid, it would literally cost us MORE money to cut him then to keep him...come on man think a little before just cutting everyone cause their not your favorite players
Originally posted by HERN:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh and Campbell in a 4-3 huh??

What he meant was converting Campbell to TE.

HA
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
You got off to a bad start...they're not cutting VMac...signed him to a lucrative extension. They're also not cutting Torrey Smith. He'll have a new lease on life in Shanahan's offense. WRT the Cousins trade, it's highly unlikely...if the 'Skins don't reach a long-term agreement with him, they'll just franchise him again. Put yourself in their shoes...why would they let him go so easily...answer: they wouldn't. You need to have some sense of reality in your plan. Do some homework. More on that below. For example:

I can see them going after Chandler Jones...he's a good pass rusher & is just 27. Campbell is a beast, but another DE isn't really what our defense needs at this point. Another pass rusher is. So is a premier NT, like Brandon Williams.

Converting Lacy to FB isn't the answer...signing Pat DeMarco from the Falcons is.

Josh Gordon is a bad risk...all the talent in the world, but he doesn't have the mind to go with it. Now, Terrelle Pryor, that's another story. He's getting better & better each season and...no baggage.

Jacob Tamme's barely an average TE. Ok, he knows the system. But, with guys like Jack Doyle & Luke Wilson available, why settle for average.

Danny Woodhead. He's had some good seasons, but I think his best are behind him...he's now 32. Andre Ellington, 27, Jaquizz Rodgers, 27 & Lance Dunbar, 27 are all younger, faster & have considerably higher ceilings than Woodhead.

In your draft, you talk about Takarist McKinley...and how he'll improve our DL. He's an OLB...pls explain that one.

I like John Ross, but 'Bama totally frustrated him in the playoffs. He'll be facing defenses better than that in the NFL.

I'd take Pat Mahomes over Kaaya any day of the week...why? He's a baller...terrific arm, mobile, accurate and high football IQ. I see him as a player Shanahan would coach up to be a real NFL QB.

Here are a few websites I use for research & reference purposes...check 'em out and see what you think. They should be helpful.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2017OLB3-4.php

http://nfltraderumors.co/2017-nfl-free-agents-list/

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:rb

http://thehuddle.com/2016/articles/offensive-line-review-and-ratings.php

Once you do some homework, reattack your offseason plan. I'll look forward to seeing it.

I appreciate the input and thank you for going in depth.. I was just trying to put another perspective out there yes some is wishful thinking and football blasphemy, but that's what the off-season is for. I was trying to stay away from the norm personally id rather see us pick up a monster NT,LB,WR(FA)and land Myles Garret in the 1st/..these are mock drafts guys I can see why most other fans don't like some of us 9er fans you just say trash don't explain and try to make fun. Unless your just a troll in disguise which I imagine there are some on here.. I respect input, not the guys that say I stopped reading at: blah blah, blah because the fact of the matter is we don't care what you stopped at or didn't read your not a beat writer and if you are maybe you need to write on something other than a fan forum..
Originally posted by pho_t_9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Stopped reading when you said cut McDonald and smith

Edit: take that back really stopped reading with your FA list...sorry dude no bueno

McDonald can't stay healthy and Torrey Smith is highly overpaid for his production or lack thereof.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Why would we convert to a 4-3 when we drafted two 3-4 DEs in the first round back to back.

And then sign another in free agency.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Eddie Lacy can barely pass block

Lacy cannot block for sh!t. Sh!t he cannot not even block a Big Mac in front of him.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by pho_t_9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Stopped reading when you said cut McDonald and smith

Edit: take that back really stopped reading with your FA list...sorry dude no bueno

McDonald can't stay healthy and Torrey Smith is highly overpaid for his production or lack thereof.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Why would we convert to a 4-3 when we drafted two 3-4 DEs in the first round back to back.

And then sign another in free agency.

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