Building for Shanahan 2.0

Everyone the Niners are interviewing defensively come from a 4-3 background. The writing is on the wall.
5 Biggest holes in the roster in no particular order

• QB
• WR
• G/C
• Standup LB
• DT

Draft

Trades
- Buffalo jumps CHI and NYJ to get a top rookie QB. SF trade #2 to BUF for #10, #44, 5th rounder, 2018 1st rounder.
- Washington jumps to #10 to be in position for either Hooker or McDowell. SF gets #17 and #81. WAS gets #10
- SF trades #44 and BUF 5th round for Jimmy Garoppolo
- SF gets awarded a 4th round comp pick for Alex Boone
- New England also gives us #64 for both of our 4th rounders

• 1.2 - Traded to Buffalo for 1.10, 2.11, 5.11, 2018 1st round pick
• BUF 1.10 - Traded to Washington for 1.17 and 3.17
• WAS 1.17 - Corey Davis
• 2.2 - Haasan Reddick
• BUF 2.11 - Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
• NE 2.32 - Dede Westbrook
• 3.2 - Dorian Johnson
• 3.17 - Alvin Kamara
• 4.2 - Traded to New England for 2.32
• 4.36 - Traded to New England for 2.32
• 5.2 - Devonte Fields
• BUF 5.11 - Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
• 6.2 - Eddie Vanderdoes
• DEN 6.19 - Jake Elliott
• CLE 7.1 - Keith Kelsey
• 7.2 - Jerod Evans

Roster Overview TradeRookie Free Agent

Offense

OL - IMO The most important person on the OL is the Center. Especially if you're going to sandwich him with 2 young prospects. I put Beadles there because even with his share of injuries, he's still more durable than Kilgore. He's got what it takes to guide the 2 maulers next to him on the field. I trust him sorting out the pass pro calls to the yougins. I'm hoping that he can restore his quality of play with the line not changing from week to week. I know some of you zoners are high on Brown but study the Theus film. The man is a technician. Cooper isn't too bad either. Communication and durability played a big factor with the Niners struggles last season.

• LT Staley
• LG Dorian Johnson
• C Beadles
• RG Garnett
• RT Brown/Theus/Cooper (Camp battle)
• T SUB Brown/Theus/Cooper
• IOL SUB Tiller/Kilgore

Backs - Yes, I too have jumped on the JG bandwagon. He can be accurate all over the field and is decently as mobile as to want your pocket passer to be. 2 things I was unsure about was system and durability. I trust him with Shanahan way more than I do with any Pats assistant sans Belichick. Other than the injury last season, he was able to consistently play in his 4 years of college. Kamara gives us the change of pace dual threat back. DiMarco follows the guys that gets him the most involved.

• QB Jimmy Garoppolo
• HB1 Hyde
• 3DB Alvin Kamara
• FB Patrick DiMarco
• Backup QB Matt Schuab, Jerod Evans

WR/TE - This WR core will be a work in progress. I'm not really sold on Smith's route running to put him in the slot. Ellington has a lot of talent that have been sidelined due to injury. Dede does have what it takes but all the WCO verbage along with the fact that we're already starting another rookie has him on the sidelines to start. We're stuck with McDonald thanks to Trent's last gasp contract. I think we continue to see a trend of Shanahan's old players following him like they did in Atl. Enter blocking RZ threat Toilolo . Exit Celek.

• X Corey Davis
• Z Smith
• S Ellington
• Y McDonald
• SUB X,Z Patton
• SUB S Dede Westbrook
• SUB TE Levine Toilolo

Defense

DL - I've been saying it all along, Buckner is a prototypical 4-3 and AA fits the 3 tech mold. AA does better at holding his point against the run while Buck can beat Tackles in both the run and pass. Add that to the super sized Lynch putting his hand in the ground and we are a DT away from completing our 4 man front. Hankins follows his DL coach to SF. With him and the 4-3, the Niners run D becomes the complete opposite of last year.

• RDE Buckner
• LDE Lynch
• 1DT Johnathan Hankins
• 3DT Armstead
• Sub DE Blair, Devonte Fields
• Sub DT Dorsey, Eddie Vanderdoes

LB - TB was oblivious to this position. Bowman and Willis were legendary. We lose Bow and Borland balls out. Bow returns but we lose both Willis & Borland and draft 8 corners and 0 LBs. Instead, we're hoping for special teams aces to play above their ability. sigh idiot. While a great Reddick SR Bowl showing is all the hype, I think you would be pleasantly surprised at the awareness Kelsey brings.

• SLB Bowman - 2 huge leg injuries have to limit mobility. I'm having this guy play the Thomas Davis role
• MLB Zach Brown - The sideline to sideline tackling machine
• WLB Haasan Reddick
• SUB OLB Harold, Keith Kelsey
• SUB MLB Armstrong, Keith Kelsey

DB - 1st of all, a guy with the ball hawking abilities of Jimmie Ward should be playing up top, NOT manned up on a slot. The fact that Baalke tried to coach DBs at one point speaks volumes on how out of touch SF was. Who the hell even drafts a safety to play nickle in the 1st round?! What the hell kinda non former playing GM does that? sigh Anyways, Reid and Tartt go at it for the SS spot and we start using all those stock piled CBs that the dummy kept picking. Thanks for the memories AB41 and Brock.

• CB Robinson
• CB Johnson
• NCB Reaser, Shepherd
• FS Ward
• SS Tartt/Reid (Camp Battle)

Special Teams

• K Jake Elliott
• P Pinion
• RET Westbrook, Kamara, Shepherd

Well done. I like all the moves.

That's great but you're high if you think Pats give up Garoppolo for that.

Originally posted by genus49:
That's great but you're high if you think Pats give up Garoppolo for that.

You're weak if you give in to someones asking price. Especially if they're basing that price on the one-sided Bradford trade. If the Pats don't bite I'm using those picks and trusting Kyle to continue to get QBs to peak.

If no JG trade

• BUF 2.11 - Dan Feeney
• NE 2.32 - Dede Westbrook
• 3.2 - Nathan Peterman
• BUF 5.11 - On the trading block for a 2018 4th

If Kyle Shanahan is as good as advertised, we have realistic options.

WTf is all that mess why to complicated

wow! reading the roster, it seems legit. and you made reasonable FA acquisitions. I would be done for accumulating all those pics instead of just staying #2

Originally posted by Heroism:
Well done. I like all the moves.

Thank you sir

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
wow! reading the roster, it seems legit. and you made reasonable FA acquisitions. I would be done for accumulating all those pics instead of just staying #2

thanks bro

Well thought out. Not sure if the trades are realistic but the final roster is impressive. I like our depth on the DL in a 4-3. Reddick completes the front 7 easier then making our 3-4 look formidable.

A 2nd and a 5th? I must be misreading it. Obviously, it would be rude not to take him for a 2nd and a 5th.

Love alvin karmara pick in the 3rd. He's a weapon.

Originally posted by TheNef77:
You're weak if you give in to someones asking price. Especially if they're basing that price on the one-sided Bradford trade. If the Pats don't bite I'm using those picks and trusting Kyle to continue to get QBs to peak.

If no JG trade

• BUF 2.11 - Dan Feeney
• NE 2.32 - Dede Westbrook
• 3.2 - Nathan Peterman
• BUF 5.11 - On the trading block for a 2018 4th

If Kyle Shanahan is as good as advertised, we have realistic options.

Have you ever heard of the law of supply and demand? There will be at least 4 teams (49ers, Browns, Bears, Jets) looking for a QB and all will inquire about Jimmy G. I don't care what the Pats asking price is, they are going to take the best offer and each team will make an offer hoping its better then the other teams thus driving up the asking price.

That's assuming Buffalo is able to rework Tyrod Taylor's deal. Also don't forget about the Cardinals needing a QB to replace Carson Palmer and the Texans will be sniffing around as well.

Somebody is going to pay dearly for Jimmy Garropolo.

And why is Buffalo giving up their first, 2nd, 5th AND 1st next year to jump up 8 spots to draft a rookie QB that everyone is scared to draft? You need to get rid of either the 2nd or 1st from next year to make it realistic.

I don't see quite so many trades cause listening to Kyle and lynch they are gonna put a value on players that fit Kyle's system. I don't think they'd trade down twice and risk missing them.

Originally posted by miked1978:
Have you ever heard of the law of supply and demand? There will be at least 4 teams (49ers, Browns, Bears, Jets) looking for a QB and all will inquire about Jimmy G. I don't care what the Pats asking price is, they are going to take the best offer and each team will make an offer hoping its better then the other teams thus driving up the asking price.

That's assuming Buffalo is able to rework Tyrod Taylor's deal. Also don't forget about the Cardinals needing a QB to replace Carson Palmer and the Texans will be sniffing around as well.

Somebody is going to pay dearly for Jimmy Garropolo.

And why is Buffalo giving up their first, 2nd, 5th AND 1st next year to jump up 8 spots to draft a rookie QB that everyone is scared to draft? You need to get rid of either the 2nd or 1st from next year to make it realistic.

No one is giving up a Top 15 pick for a backup QB to be given a veterans contract on pure potential. Buffalo and Taylor are parting ways and Bruce Arians doesn't give a damn about developing a QB after his tenure so AZ isn't using a Top 15 pick on a QB. You're left with CHI, BUF, CLE, and NYJ. All in the Top 15. Cleveland already tried to drive down the price and they have the lowest 1st rounder to offer at #12 unless you really think JG is worth the 1st pick of the draft. If that's the case, I see where the problem lies and will agree to disagree.

BTW That deal that I gave with Buffalo is nearly the same deal Philly used to move from #8 to #2 for a FCS QB that everyone was scared to draft. I gave Buffalo a discount even though they're 2 spots further.

Originally posted by gold49er2183:
I don't see quite so many trades cause listening to Kyle and lynch they are gonna put a value on players that fit Kyle's system. I don't think they'd trade down twice and risk missing them.

True. The last trade for Dede was because I was too lazy to look for a quality slot WR in the 4th. Washington trade was just me being greedy to get both my top WR and top RB.