SunDevil's Big Board 2017

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

6Th or later round????
63. Nathan Peterman, QB
so funny

4th or 5th round????
39. Haason Reddick, ILB
U mean 1 of tha fastest rising players tha guy who showed alot talent at the Senior Bowl ....A guy that will probably be a 1st rounder after tha combine...

Maybe you didn't read the part where I said its not a prediction of where they will go....hence why I could care less if a payer is a "riser"

Reddick or Peterman could, and likely will, go much earlier then where I rank them. That is not the point of my ranking.

I know everyone has their own ranking around here because everyone is pro football scout but really some of them ranking just seem biased

I don't get the hate for Kizer. You're giving Mahomes a ton of credit for arm talent moving him up to the #1 overall QB even though he's far from NFL ready, but De'Shone Kizer who is much bigger with similar arm talent and is more NFL ready is a 4th or 5th round NFL prospect?

Feels like too many people are looking at Notre Dame's record this year or the 58.7% completion percentage and stopping their evaluation there. It's not Kizer's fault that he lost 5 of his 6 top receivers from 2015 and his 2 best linemen, had to play in a hurricane at NC State, and had an awful defense on the other side of the ball. If you watch him play, he's accurate, but is inconsistent with poor footwork at times (a la Jameis Winston). There's a reason he's ranked in the top 2 with Trubisky on most sites (CBS, WalterFootball, Mayock's rankings, Kiper's rankings, Jeremiah's rankings, etc.). I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kizer ends up being the first QB taken ahead of Trubisky. He's definitely going in the first 2 rounds and likely in the top half of the first round.

Bump.

Up to my top 130, with 45 players still on my list to finish giving a grade too.....At this point I doubt I'll finish, I'm hoping to get up to maybe 160 and then circle back to do a 2nd look at some of the players that are real popular on here and see if my opinion changes.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Bump.

Up to my top 130, with 45 players still on my list to finish giving a grade too.....At this point I doubt I'll finish, I'm hoping to get up to maybe 160 and then circle back to do a 2nd look at some of the players that are real popular on here and see if my opinion changes.

Is this a talent board? Like, who you think projects to be the best NFLer?

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Is this a talent board? Like, who you think projects to be the best NFLer?

Yes, talent board, not prediction of where they will go

Really interesting list. Thanks for the ton of work this took.

Maybe I missed him on your list but, no Raekwon McMillian in your top 130

Originally posted by Andra:

Maybe I missed him on your list but, no Raekwon McMillian in your top 130

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45 players are on my list to finish grading and thus not on my big board

Really like that you have Zach Cunningham rated above Foster. A lot of people don't want to go against the grain but I'm right there with you thinking Cunningham is better.

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

6Th or later round????
63. Nathan Peterman, QB
so funny

4th or 5th round????
39. Haason Reddick, ILB
U mean 1 of tha fastest rising players tha guy who showed alot talent at the Senior Bowl ....A guy that will probably be a 1st rounder after tha combine...

Maybe you didn't read the part where I said its not a prediction of where they will go....hence why I could care less if a payer is a "riser"

Reddick or Peterman could, and likely will, go much earlier then where I rank them. That is not the point of my ranking.

I know everyone has their own ranking around here because everyone is pro football scout but really some of them ranking just seem biased

No one claims to be a pro scout and how can you sense bias without knowing a guy.? Also, who cares? This is for fun and informational purposes only.

P.S. good list.

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
6Th or later round????
63. Nathan Peterman, QB
so funny

4th or 5th round????
39. Haason Reddick, ILB
U mean 1 of tha fastest rising players tha guy who showed alot talent at the Senior Bowl ....A guy that will probably be a 1st rounder after tha combine...

Who the f**k are you?

He's the guy who uses his posts in this forum to s**t on someone else's work, but his posts only offer internet-bolstered group-think when he's put to it to form an opinion for himself. He also claims that intentionally misspelling the word "the" allows him to express himself as an individual, which tells you a bit about the maturity level that he chooses to represent with his posts. It takes all types to make a webzone.

As usual SD, I respect the balls. You always shoot straight w/your opinions, and I appreciate the time you put in. As usual, I disagree w/a few rankings: I think Fournette is really high for me. I don't see the wiggle, and I worry about bad ankles on a big back. I'm not as excited about Taco. I think he should have done more on a defense with that much talent to pull attention from him. I hate Ramczyck, but only because his name is a pain in the ass to spell. I think he gets pushed up by this craptastic OL class. I like the traits, but I feel like he'll be even more of a project tan the typical rookie OL, because he didn't get much time at a big program. He's a cool story, though.

Good stuff, man. Mahomes is my guy, too, and I imagine he left quite the impression on you and you Sun Devils, lol. I'm not as down on the QB class as most, as I see a lot of raw talent (more talent than in most years). I get that "Raw" is pretty scary w/QBs, but it's up to teams to identify the specific traits they value most, assess them properly, and take the shot on the guy they can develop into a star. I wouldn't be surprised if 3 guys from this draft end up as long-term starters and Pro Bowlers eventually. The talents there, but they need to fall into good situations, with coaching stability, time to develop, and some talent around them. Odds are against them getting all of that, but the uncertainty makes the whole thing exciting.