1. Derek Barnett- Edge pass rusher, this is my consensus pick at number 2, he has more sacks tackles for loss and tackles than Garrett. He also looked better than Garrett vs Cam Robinson, elite rushers are hard to come by so this is my lock pick for number 2. I am baffled why so many experts want the Stanford product over Barnett.
2. Natahan Peterman QB Pittsburgh- This is my surprise pick. He comes from a pro style offense and I think he fits what the team is looking for. If he progresses they will not sign Kirk Cousins in next off season.
3. Marcus Williams- Safety Utah-
4.a Anthony Walker Jr ILB "will lb: Northwestern
4b Eric Saubert -TE Drake- a "move TE" that will work in Shannahans multiple TE sets
5. Isaac Asiata -OG Utah- has played RT and both guard spots in college, versatile lineman that can also play center if needed
5b Joshua Dobbs QB Tennessee- Surprise, Shanahan is hedging his bets, Dobbs is a engineering major that can pick up his complicated play book. Barkley is the camp fodder, with starter being Hoyer, back up Peterman and Dobbs. This is a qb league, need to develope multiple young talent
6b. Ryan Switzer- WR NC- can play slot, KR PR
6b Corey Clement RB Wisconsin
7- Steven Moore OT California
The theory behind this mock draft is no RB, QB, or safety is worthy of the second slot, so pass rusher it is.
After watching game tapes wild guess that Shannahan falls in love with Peterman and Dobbs, realizing he had no qb's a mere few weeks ago he looks forward to having two raw lumps of clay under contract for 4 years.
Saubert becomes the steal of the draft.
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Mar 24, 2017 at 11:35 AM
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Mar 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM
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wouldn't hate it...I like Barnett not at two though, saying he did well vs Robinson isn't really saying much IMO (Myles was also injured vs Cam this yr). Barnett is just a good football player and in a trade down sure...I have no idea why you're baffled that people prefer Thomas. His numbers trump Barnett in every athletic category plus he's bigger, it's not easy to find a guy who can pass rush from the interior like him....Barnett also has issues in run D. Both good players.
Peterman I love but not at 34 lol...there will be by far more talented players at positions of need with the 34th pick. I like the rest of your picks, don't like waiting until the 6th to get a WR and we already have two slot WRs and spending TWO picks on QB no thanks, I have no idea why you think Kyle falls in love with Dobbs?
Peterman I love but not at 34 lol...there will be by far more talented players at positions of need with the 34th pick. I like the rest of your picks, don't like waiting until the 6th to get a WR and we already have two slot WRs and spending TWO picks on QB no thanks, I have no idea why you think Kyle falls in love with Dobbs?
Mar 24, 2017 at 2:14 PM
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Not bad mock
Mar 24, 2017 at 3:37 PM
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Wouldn't mind this. It has none of the players I chose (except Peterman) so it's probably far more accurate.
Mar 24, 2017 at 6:56 PM
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I really like Switzer but I doubt he lasts until the 6th rd. I also like Barnett but not at 2. He would be a nice pick if we moved down several spots. Peterman would be a nice pick in the 3rd but I will lose my mind if he gets picked at #34.
Mar 24, 2017 at 7:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:I really like Switzer but I doubt he lasts until the 6th rd. I also like Barnett but not at 2. He would be a nice pick if we moved down several spots. Peterman would be a nice pick in the 3rd but I will lose my mind if he gets picked at #34.
If barnett is a good pick at #12 why is he not a good pick at #2?
If Peterman is a nice pick at #66 why would you lose your mind at #34?
Mar 24, 2017 at 7:11 PM
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I really like Switzer but I doubt he lasts until the 6th rd. I also like Barnett but not at 2. He would be a nice pick if we moved down several spots. Peterman would be a nice pick in the 3rd but I will lose my mind if he gets picked at #34.
If barnett is a good pick at #12 why is he not a good pick at #2?
If Peterman is a nice pick at #66 why would you lose your mind at #34?
You have never heard of value of picks? The Niners can move way down and get Peterman and get valuable picks. He isnt going anywhere near 34. As for Barnett, same thing. If they want him they can move down a few spots and get a minimum of a 3rd.
Mar 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM
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I have heard of that. But reality is if it's a good pick at 12. It's still a good pick at 2.
If it's a nice pick at 66. There surely isn't Any reason to lose you mind at 34.
So if you want a particular guy. And you're in control to get him....
NVM not worth even getting into
If it's a nice pick at 66. There surely isn't Any reason to lose you mind at 34.
So if you want a particular guy. And you're in control to get him....
NVM not worth even getting into
Mar 24, 2017 at 7:36 PM
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Originally posted by krizay:
I have heard of that. But reality is if it's a good pick at 12. It's still a good pick at 2.
If it's a nice pick at 66. There surely isn't Any reason to lose you mind at 34.
So if you want a particular guy. And you're in control to get him....
NVM not worth even getting into
Im glad you arent the Niners GM using that logic.
Mar 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by krizay:I have heard of that. But reality is if it's a good pick at 12. It's still a good pick at 2.
If it's a nice pick at 66. There surely isn't Any reason to lose you mind at 34.
So if you want a particular guy. And you're in control to get him....
NVM not worth even getting into
Im glad you arent the Niners GM using that logic.
It's a good pick at 12 because there are about 11 better players. It's not at 2 because there are about 11 better players.
Peterman at 66 because there are about 65... At 34.... there are about 65...
Mar 25, 2017 at 5:20 AM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Im glad you arent the Niners GM using that logic.
You're the one using fouled up logic. I think a trade down is the best move period.
I'm not the one saying eh! Got the guy I like but 10 spots too high it's a bad pick. Even though EVERYONE on this board thinks that #2-#12 are about all equal players. Hence why some posters don't think we can't trade down. And the exact reason some posters (including me) want to trade down
Now couple that with Barnett being the 2nd best LEO in the draft and you have a player being worthy of the #2.
Just because YOU (WE) don't view Barnett as the #2 best player. All it takes is 1 GM. then guess what. You're guy is gone. And for what? Eh he went 10 spots too high.
In this draft there are 10ish players who could go anywhere from 2-12.
I'm not saying the IDEAL scenario (as it relates to Barnett)isn't to trade down, get more picks and draft Barnett.
What I'm saying is if you like the pick at 12ish you should still like the pick at 2. Do you think we could have gotten more? Yes. But still a nice pick. Barnett will be the same player.
Same for Peterman.
Mar 25, 2017 at 6:00 AM
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Originally posted by krizay:If barnett is a good pick at #12 why is he not a good pick at #2?
If Peterman is a nice pick at #66 why would you lose your mind at #34?
This makes zero sense...it's simple there's 10 players better than him ( if you think he's worth the 12th pick in the draft ) teams have a draft board and set value on players for a reason.
Mar 25, 2017 at 7:13 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by krizay:
If barnett is a good pick at #12 why is he not a good pick at #2?
If Peterman is a nice pick at #66 why would you lose your mind at #34?
This makes zero sense...it's simple there's 10 players better than him ( if you think he's worth the 12th pick in the draft ) teams have a draft board and set value on players for a reason.
If it's as clear cut as you guys are making it sound then the #2 pick has more value than we are lead to believe correct? And you yourself just said teams have a draft board for a reason. Is everyone's draft board the same? Obviously not. Do you think there is someone out there that has Barnett in the top 5 on their board? I bet there are more teams than you are apparently assuming. which means, if he's the guy you want and hes available at #2. Why take a chance from missing him Just like there are teams im willing to bet has a 2nd round grade on Peterman.
But that's not even the point im trying to make. Which it is what it is at this point.
Mar 25, 2017 at 8:07 AM
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Originally posted by krizay:If it's as clear cut as you guys are making it sound then the #2 pick has more value than we are lead to believe correct? And you yourself just said teams have a draft board for a reason. Is everyone's draft board the same? Obviously not. Do you think there is someone out there that has Barnett in the top 5 on their board? I bet there are more teams than you are apparently assuming. which means, if he's the guy you want and hes available at #2. Why take a chance from missing him Just like there are teams im willing to bet has a 2nd round grade on Peterman.
But that's not even the point im trying to make. Which it is what it is at this point.
I get what your saying BUT in the scenario discussed he's not the 2nd overall player but the 12th...also with the 2nd overall pick your picking your 2nd overall player not your 5th or 10th ranked player. SF isn't drafting against anyone at two...I simply don't think teams have barnett as the 2nd ranked player in this draft (I could be wrong) regarding peterman it's the same thing if they have him as the 34th overall best player sure...I doubt they do though.
We will fine out what happens in a month...IMO we are so depleted of top talent that I have no issue going with their big board and drafting BPA no reaching. Shanny already stated past drafts will have no affect on who they will be picking, they will simply be getting talent.
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Mar 25, 2017 at 10:58 AM
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Good mock for position needs, but I would go a couple of different ways on players.
QB - I would prefer Webb over Peterman in the second round assuming Mahomes gets taken somewhere in the late 1st round. Don't need a double down at QB with Cousins situation.
RB - Would rather have someone like TJ Logan from North Carolina who is a better receiver than Clement.
WR - Like Switzer but think we need the double down at WR. A big outside target to fill out our WR corps would be good.
Great job in the middle rounds 3rd - 5th. Four solid additions at positions of need.
QB - I would prefer Webb over Peterman in the second round assuming Mahomes gets taken somewhere in the late 1st round. Don't need a double down at QB with Cousins situation.
RB - Would rather have someone like TJ Logan from North Carolina who is a better receiver than Clement.
WR - Like Switzer but think we need the double down at WR. A big outside target to fill out our WR corps would be good.
Great job in the middle rounds 3rd - 5th. Four solid additions at positions of need.
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