2017 NCommand's Mock Draft

Mitchell Trubisky heads list of most pro-ready QB prospects
By David Carr, NFL Media Analyst
Published: April 3, 2017 at 01:27 p.m. Updated: April 3, 2017 at 03:34 p.m.

When I went to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis a month ago, I thought I had an idea of which quarterback prospects could be Day 1 starters in this league. But when I left, it seemed like I had more questions than before.

Having gone through the process myself in 2002 -- as the eventual No. 1 overall pick for the then-expansion Houston Texans -- I know how much goes into being "pro ready" by August. These prospects will hit OTAs and minicamp in just over a month. They must be prepared to lead a team and show veteran teammates that they are 100 percent ready to play and understand the most difficult position in sports.

Here's how I see some of the quarterback prospects stacking up heading into the 2017 NFL Draft:

DAY 1 STARTER

Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina

Although limited in college reps, Trubisky has the best chance to start immediately. On film, I've seen him go through read progressions consistently. He looks from his main target to the next guy and sometimes even his third and fourth options. He also has the ability to tuck the ball and run, making a positive play. I think a lot of people are sleeping on Trubisky's athleticism. His build (6-foot-2, 222 pounds) reminds me of my brother, Derek, and Aaron Rodgers. People don't generally look at those two and see great athletes, but they can take off and run and are really good at it. I see Trubisky being this type of player.

Trubisky, who throws the ball from different arm angles, had a solid pro day, showing off his arm strength and accuracy. He has all the tools needed to be a Day 1 starter, and I have fewer questions surrounding him heading into this month's draft, which begins at 8 p.m. ET on April 27 in Philadelphia.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000797082/article/mitchell-trubisky-heads-list-of-most-proready-qb-prospects

Update. This update is for you, SunDevilNiner79!

what did ya change?

2 QBs in the first 3 picks?
Bit of a head scratcher for me

If we are taking Trubs at #2 I want to be 100% sure he is our guy

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
what did ya change?

Originally posted by Quest4six:
2 QBs in the first 3 picks?
Bit of a head scratcher for me

If we are taking Trubs at #2 I want to be 100% sure he is our guy

Yup, went against the G in the 3rd and stacked the most important position with Nathan Peterman. And here is why:

Offense: Kyle Shanahan doesn't give a $^&* about "draft value" when it comes to QB (see RGII/Manziel in the 1st vs. Jimmy Garoppolo in the 2nd and Kirk Cousins in the 4th) and he's got plenty of time to groom his next FQB in Mitch Trubisky. He's the ultimate clean slate but with all the "traits" he's looking for. He'll red-shirt for two years, most likely, transitioning from the college spread to the pro-style WCO. Kyle takes his shot here at #2 knowing he'll most likely never be in the top 10 again. But he's not done yet! In the 3rd round, he grabs QB Nathan Peterman who's most often compared to Kirk Cousins. Why the overload? This is both a short and long-term plan to ensuring you get your FQB while also providing key depth and security and possibly, setting your team up with additional draft capital later (year 2+). Keep in mind that both QB's will take a couple years to develop with Peterman the most pro-ready today in case of an injury to Hoyer. If Cousins does come here next year, you now have Cousins - Trubisky - Peterman. Because Trubisky will be perceived to be highly/properly developed under Shanahan, in year 2, you may have the option to entertain trade-talks of Trubisky for huge draft capital, of which you'd then have a crap load of draft picks to improve your team while also having a Cousins/Hoyer - Peterman scenario. If we can not get Cousins, you still have a Hoyer - Trubisky - Peterman scenario with Trubisky pushing Hoyer in year 2 to start and completely ready to start in year 3 when Hoyer's contract expires (same exact path as Kirk Cousins). In addition, Peterman gives you a legit middle-round QB who too, could genuinely push Trubisky and potentially, even win the starting QB job. That's what you call a win - win - win scenario for your franchise around THE most important position in year 1 of the ShanaLynch era.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup, went against the G in the 3rd and stacked the most important position with Nathan Peterman. And here is why:

Offense: Kyle Shanahan doesn't give a $^&* about "draft value" when it comes to QB (see RGII/Manziel in the 1st vs. Jimmy Garoppolo in the 2nd and Kirk Cousins in the 4th) and he's got plenty of time to groom his next FQB in Mitch Trubisky. He's the ultimate clean slate but with all the "traits" he's looking for. He'll red-shirt for two years, most likely, transitioning from the college spread to the pro-style WCO. Kyle takes his shot here at #2 knowing he'll most likely never be in the top 10 again. But he's not done yet! In the 3rd round, he grabs QB Nathan Peterman who's most often compared to Kirk Cousins. Why the overload? This is both a short and long-term plan to ensuring you get your FQB while also providing key depth and security and possibly, setting your team up with additional draft capital later (year 2+). Keep in mind that both QB's will take a couple years to develop with Peterman the most pro-ready today in case of an injury to Hoyer. If Cousins does come here next year, you now have Cousins - Trubisky - Peterman. Because Trubisky will be perceived to be highly/properly developed under Shanahan, in year 2, you may have the option to entertain trade-talks of Trubisky for huge draft capital, of which you'd then have a crap load of draft picks to improve your team while also having a Cousins/Hoyer - Peterman scenario. If we can not get Cousins, you still have a Hoyer - Trubisky - Peterman scenario with Trubisky pushing Hoyer in year 2 to start and completely ready to start in year 3 when Hoyer's contract expires (same exact path as Kirk Cousins). In addition, Peterman gives you a legit middle-round QB who too, could genuinely push Trubisky and potentially, even win the starting QB job. That's what you call a win - win - win scenario for your franchise around THE most important position in year 1 of the ShanaLynch era.

Good logic and plan. Can't wait to see how Lynch and Shannahan handle the draft.

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Good logic and plan. Can't wait to see how Lynch and Shannahan handle the draft.

Thank you kind sir!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ninefan56:

Good logic and plan. Can't wait to see how Lynch and Shannahan handle the draft.

Thank you kind sir!

I think we already have a gap QB in Hoyer, I'm not sure why we would still spend a 3rd on Petman but then again my mocks are always off

2014- Jason Verrett
2015- Brandon Scherff
2016- Myles Jack

Originally posted by Quest4six:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Good logic and plan. Can't wait to see how Lynch and Shannahan handle the draft.

Thank you kind sir!

I think we already have a gap QB in Hoyer, I'm not sure why we would still spend a 3rd on Petman but then again my mocks are always off

2014- Jason Verrett
2015- Brandon Scherff
2016- Myles Jack

LOL, I hear you, bud.

Yeah, normally, I would stop at Trubisky but if a pro-style, Cousin's-like QB is sitting there at your third pick, take him. There is no guarantee Trubisky pans out. There is no guarantee we get Cousins. Mid round QB's sometimes (Cousins) end up being the better QB's in the end over first rounders (RGIII). If you are in position to get two scheme-fit QB's who have the traits you want, stack the position and play the probability game. Also, there was a reason we signed Hoyer to a 2-year deal. It's going to take 2 full years to develop this WCO QB. Year 3 is the expected year either Trubisky or Peterman would take over. It's just 2 picks out of 10. Peace. Of. Mind.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Admittedly, I don't watch college ball but I was able to predict Ward, Armstead & Buckner as our first round picks the past three years based on top team needs, Baalke's M.O. and in paying close attention to who we've visited with (and player research).

That said, this is a new regime. Given I don't have any tendencies from this FO yet, I'll rely on the other points noted. As usual, I'll refer to the pre-draft visit tracker, last updated on April 7th and, of course, MadDog49er's Big 150-253 Board as the foundation. http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/104857-49ers-2017-pre-draft-visit-meeting-tracker/

Past 49er drafts have proven to be an end result to a high number of picks associated with who we've met with (interviewed/worked out). What's interesting is that since we devoted so much attention to the offense in Free Agency, I figured we'd attack defense for the draft. But in reviewing who we've met with, we have met with 36 confirmed players but 25 of them are on offense. 11 of the 25 are projected to go within the first 3 rounds and most of the picks are top heavy. On defense, of the 11, 8 are within the first 3 rounds and very very top heavy (almost all 1st and 2nd round projections). So, that might give you a clue into what direction we may go in year 1 of the ShanaLynch era for our first two or three picks. My mock follows a similar path.

I think there is a 50/50 chance we trade back but this mock will focus on staying pat. I'll just cover the first 6 picks through round 5 for now. In an ideal world, we can take a trade-back and still get Trubisky while adding more draft capital.

49ers 2017 Draft Picks:
1. First round: Own pick, 2 --- QB Mitch Trubisky
2. Second round: Own pick, 34 --- ER Jordan Willis
3. Third round: Own pick, 66 --- QB Nathan Peterman
4. Fourth round: Own pick, 109 --- WILL Elijah Lee
5. Fourth round: Compensatory, 143 --- ZWR Josh Malone
6. Fifth round: Own pick, 146 --- CB Brian Allen
7. Fifth round: From Washington, 161 --- 1T/NT Ryan Glasgow

Analysis:
QB Mitch Trubisky - 6'2" 222 4.67. Top performer in the 40, 3-cone and 20-yard Shuffle drills. "Traits." Mitchell checks off all of Kyle's boxes: Quick Processer (can go fast in the pocket; can think fast and react; how quick their decision making is under duress); Pure Thrower (natural throwing motion; born to throw; effortless; to where he doesn't have to think about it ever); Natural Feel for the Game (automatic; feel and react); Smart (can handle the whole offense; handle it all under pressure; smart but doesn't over-process things); Fearless (against the rush; in the pocket; no hesitation; lets it rip); Tough (hangs in the pocket and takes hits); Demeanor (how he carries himself; leadership; likeable); Eyes (Keeps his eyes downfield; doesn't start watching the rush instead); Quick Release (Can get rid of the ball quickly/fast) & Passion and Determination. Matt Miller ✔@nfldraftscout #49ers and #Bills worked out Mitch Trubisky with Ryan Switzer. Kyle Shanahan was running the workout for the Niners. Also, we attended his Pro Day (QB Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina (March 21st) & per the Sacramento Bee, reviewed him closely at the NFL Scouting Combine (John Lynch). http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article143794204.html
ER Jordan Willis - 6'4" 255 4.53. Top performer in the 40, Vertical Jump, 3-cone, 20-yard Shuffle drills and had a 1.54 10-yard split. Very productive college career as noted by PFF who had him second in the country with QB pressures. Rising player on many boards. He's a TFL machine, forces fumbles and continues to grow in the pass rush category. He's our Elephant. Growth every year: TFL = 1, 7, 14 & 17.5 and Sacks = 1, 4.5, 8.5 & 11.5. Some are now projecting he's a back-end first rounder but I think we get lucky here.
QB Nathan Peterman - 6'2" 226 4.82. Peterman's experience in a pro-style passing attack gives him a head start headed into the league. His physical attributes are mostly average, but his accuracy, composure and anticipation are what sets him apart from some of the more physically gifted quarterbacks in this year's draft. His most apt comparison is, ironically, Kirk Cousins.
WILL Elijah Lee - 6'3" 230 4.70. Malcolm Smith won't be here forever and Lee has time to gain strength and experience and can grow under Smith for a year. The WILL in this defense is defined by Saleh as a "run and hit" position. This is perfect for Lee.
ZWR Josh Malone - 6'3" 210 4.40. Top performer in the 40. Kyle loves size and speed at the Z and he gets that in Malone. He got better every year and finished with 50 catches for 972 and 11 TD's.
CB Brian Allen - 6'3" 215 4.48. Top performer with 6.64 in the 3-cone drill. Limited just 42.5 percent of targets his way to be completed over the last two seasons and terrific speed for his length. He's a H-W-S player with production but a bit raw and still learning how to tackle. But the idea of two starting 6'3" CB's has Saleh giddy.
1T/NT Ryan Glasgow - 6'3" 310 5.13. Shows feel for double teams and braces quickly against them. Powerful, heavy tackler. Has arm length and power to lock out blockers in a two-gap scheme and has strength to force his way past redirect blocks. Comes from a competitive family background and is just a workhorse blue collar player. Won't be on the field in passing downs.

Overall:
One thing every Head Coach needs is a Franchise QB and an Edge Rusher who can sack a FQB. And that's what Kyle got here with his first two picks. We ended up drafting 3 of the 7 players we worked out (the first 3 of 4 picks).

Offense: Kyle Shanahan doesn't give a $^&* about "draft value" when it comes to QB (see RGII/Manziel in the 1st vs. Jimmy Garoppolo in the 2nd and Kirk Cousins in the 4th) and he's got plenty of time to groom his next FQB in Mitch Trubisky. He's the ultimate clean slate but with all the "traits" he's looking for. He'll red-shirt for two years, most likely, transitioning from the college spread to the pro-style WCO. Kyle takes his shot here at #2 knowing he'll most likely never be in the top 10 again. But he's not done yet! In the 3rd round, he grabs QB Nathan Peterman who's most often compared to Kirk Cousins. Why the overload? This is both a short and long-term plan to ensuring you get your FQB while also providing key depth and security and possibly, setting your team up with additional draft capital later (year 2+). Keep in mind that both QB's will take a couple years to develop with Peterman the most pro-ready today in case of an injury to Hoyer. If Cousins does come here next year, you now have Cousins - Trubisky - Peterman. Because Trubisky will be perceived to be highly/properly developed under Shanahan, in year 2, you may have the option to entertain trade-talks of Trubisky for huge draft capital, of which you'd then have a crap load of draft picks to improve your team while also having a Cousins/Hoyer - Peterman scenario. If we can not get Cousins, you still have a Hoyer - Trubisky - Peterman scenario with Trubisky pushing Hoyer in year 2 to start and completely ready to start in year 3 when Hoyer's contract expires (same exact path as Kirk Cousins). In addition, Peterman gives you a legit middle-round QB who too, could genuinely push Trubisky and potentially, even win the starting QB job. That's what you call a win - win - win scenario for your franchise around THE most important position in year 1 of the ShanaLynch era.

Keeping with the offense, he adds a ZWR in Josh Malone to help round out the receiving group allowing Garcon to move to the XWR spot & YWR Kerley as well as other receiving weapons such as Marquise Goodwin, Aldrick Robinson, DuJuan Harris, Kyle Juszczyk & Vance McDonald.

Defense: Finally, ShanaLynch turn their attention over to the defense which makes DC Robert Salah a happy man. He adds ER Jordan Willis, WILL Elijah Lee, CB Brian Allen & 1T/NT Ryan Glasgow. Willis will be a day 1 starter at the Elephant but Lee, Allen and Glasgow will have an opportunity to push-start and grow behind veterans over the next year+.

I like your draft and feel that it is realistic for Trubisky at #2 and Peterman as well. I also like getting a premier Edge Rusher as well, as a CB. I think that we can not place draft value over getting the players we need when they are available, not when it is ideal for our draft picking theology.

Originally posted by Ninefan56:
I like your draft and feel that it is realistic for Trubisky at #2 and Peterman as well. I also like getting a premier Edge Rusher as well, as a CB. I think that we can not place draft value over getting the players we need when they are available, not when it is ideal for our draft picking theology.

Gracias. Yeah, as fans, it's our job to go Madden on the value of these picks based upon where they are ultimately selected. It's the FO job to get the right players. The value for them will come once they are integrated into the systems as system-fit players and later, as they are fully developed.

Lynch said he's seen the projected top-five quarterbacks in person: Mitchell Trubisky (North Carolina), Deshaun Watson (Clemson), Patrick Mahomes (Texas Tech), DeShone Kizer (Notre Dame) and Davis Webb (Cal). Lynch hosted Webb and Watson for private workouts at the team's Santa Clara facility this week.

"We've looked at (the quarterback class) from every angle. From the beginning, I've thought that maybe the perception that this isn't a strong quarterback class," Lynch said. "I think that's in the eyes of the beholder and we have our own feelings. I think there's a lot that we like. We've put in the work. I do think that's a position where seeing it live and in person is helpful for me. I think Kyle (Shanahan) feels the same way."

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/12/49ers-gm-john-lynch-open-for-business-in-trade-talks-for-no-2-pick/

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup, went against the G in the 3rd and stacked the most important position with Nathan Peterman. And here is why:

Offense: Kyle Shanahan doesn't give a $^&* about "draft value" when it comes to QB (see RGII/Manziel in the 1st vs. Jimmy Garoppolo in the 2nd and Kirk Cousins in the 4th) and he's got plenty of time to groom his next FQB in Mitch Trubisky. He's the ultimate clean slate but with all the "traits" he's looking for. He'll red-shirt for two years, most likely, transitioning from the college spread to the pro-style WCO. Kyle takes his shot here at #2 knowing he'll most likely never be in the top 10 again. But he's not done yet! In the 3rd round, he grabs QB Nathan Peterman who's most often compared to Kirk Cousins. Why the overload? This is both a short and long-term plan to ensuring you get your FQB while also providing key depth and security and possibly, setting your team up with additional draft capital later (year 2+). Keep in mind that both QB's will take a couple years to develop with Peterman the most pro-ready today in case of an injury to Hoyer. If Cousins does come here next year, you now have Cousins - Trubisky - Peterman. Because Trubisky will be perceived to be highly/properly developed under Shanahan, in year 2, you may have the option to entertain trade-talks of Trubisky for huge draft capital, of which you'd then have a crap load of draft picks to improve your team while also having a Cousins/Hoyer - Peterman scenario. If we can not get Cousins, you still have a Hoyer - Trubisky - Peterman scenario with Trubisky pushing Hoyer in year 2 to start and completely ready to start in year 3 when Hoyer's contract expires (same exact path as Kirk Cousins). In addition, Peterman gives you a legit middle-round QB who too, could genuinely push Trubisky and potentially, even win the starting QB job. That's what you call a win - win - win scenario for your franchise around THE most important position in year 1 of the ShanaLynch era.

Develop both to keep one and trade the other for mega picks. Works for me!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch said he's seen the projected top-five quarterbacks in person: Mitchell Trubisky (North Carolina), Deshaun Watson (Clemson), Patrick Mahomes (Texas Tech), DeShone Kizer (Notre Dame) and Davis Webb (Cal). Lynch hosted Webb and Watson for private workouts at the team's Santa Clara facility this week.

"We've looked at (the quarterback class) from every angle. From the beginning, I've thought that maybe the perception that this isn't a strong quarterback class," Lynch said. "I think that's in the eyes of the beholder and we have our own feelings. I think there's a lot that we like. We've put in the work. I do think that's a position where seeing it live and in person is helpful for me. I think Kyle (Shanahan) feels the same way."

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/12/49ers-gm-john-lynch-open-for-business-in-trade-talks-for-no-2-pick/

Man, I'm so excited to find out which QB Shanahan takes

NC, think there's is any possibility if we stink bad enough we go after Darnold, Rosen, or Falk next year?