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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Patrick Robinson is a slot DB Williams already plays that role. We need someone on the outside to take DJs spot.

I like some of the guys you targeted in the draft but I don't see half of them going where you have them projected...what did you use for a big board?

Josh Jackson would replace Dontae Johnson. I used Walter Football for the draft slots (CBS had C. Ridley 36th overall, so I definitely didn't use them).

Gotcha. I still don't see the point in going for Robinson cause they just gave Williams an extension to play slot and he's started coming on strong towards the end of the yr. we need depth at outside CB even if we draft Jackson (who I like).

Thanks for the mock!


Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gotcha. I still don't see the point in going for Robinson cause they just gave Williams an extension to play slot and he's started coming on strong towards the end of the yr. we need depth at outside CB even if we draft Jackson (who I like).

Thanks for the mock!
We are extremely thin at CB. Currently there are only two true CBs signed with the team ( Greg Mabin and Channing Stribling don't count), which are A. Witherspoon and K. Williams. Patrick Robinson would give us quality depth and he has the versatility to play both the slot and the outside (5'11). In addition, he is 30 years old and only has one year of quality work, so he won't cost a lot. We sign him to a two year deal, allowing our younger guys to develop, and he'll be available to step in if needed. We draft Josh Jackson (true #1 to start alongside A. Witherspoon) and we're set on the outside. Use one of late picks on another CB and bring in some UFAs, we should be back to respectable at cornerback. Having two slot corners is always helpful, as most teams go to 4-5 wide out sets on third downs.
[ Edited by JimmyJesus on Jan 25, 2018 at 11:04 PM ]
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
We are extremely thin at CB. Currently there are only two true CBs signed with the team ( Greg Mabin and Channing Stribling don't count), which are A. Witherspoon and K. Williams. Patrick Robinson would give us quality depth (90.7 PFF) and he has the versatility to play both the slot and the outside (5'11). In addition, he is 30 years old and only has one year of quality work, so he won't cost a lot. We sign him to a two year deal, allowing our younger guys to develop, and he'll be available to step in if needed. We draft Josh Jackson (true #1 to start alongside A. Witherspoon) and we're set on the outside. Use one of late picks on another CB and bring in some UFAs, we should be back to respectable at cornerback. Having two slot corners is always helpful, as most teams go to 4-5 wide out sets on third downs.

Robinson is gonna get paid starter money dude, you're not paying him and Williams. Someone is stilling the bench. Ward can also play the slot.

I'd rather give that cash to someone on the outside where we are extremely thin.
I'll add Robinson when played outside was on his way to becoming a bust, he got thrown inside and thrived....I can't see him wanting to go back outside where we need help at.

He's getting paid to play slot and start, I don't think he'd even come here because we have a starter (and just paid him).
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 7, 2018 at 6:03 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
We are extremely thin at CB. Currently there are only two true CBs signed with the team ( Greg Mabin and Channing Stribling don't count), which are A. Witherspoon and K. Williams. Patrick Robinson would give us quality depth (90.7 PFF) and he has the versatility to play both the slot and the outside (5'11). In addition, he is 30 years old and only has one year of quality work, so he won't cost a lot. We sign him to a two year deal, allowing our younger guys to develop, and he'll be available to step in if needed. We draft Josh Jackson (true #1 to start alongside A. Witherspoon) and we're set on the outside. Use one of late picks on another CB and bring in some UFAs, we should be back to respectable at cornerback. Having two slot corners is always helpful, as most teams go to 4-5 wide out sets on third downs.

Robinson is gonna get paid starter money dude, you're not paying him and Williams. Someone is stilling the bench. Ward can also play the slot.

I'd rather give that cash to someone on the outside where we are extremely thin.

K. Williams is only making 2.3 mil in 2018 bro, that's a little nibble. I'm paying P. Robinson no more than a 2yr/ 14mil deal. If not, bye. How much do you think he'll get?

A. Witherspoon isn't getting paid s**t, K. Williams 2.3 mil, J. Jackson will probably get around 4mil...I think we can afford to pay P. Robinson 7 mil for quality depth/ 2yrs.

That's 14mil for four quality cornerbacks, you can't complain bro , better than paying Trumaine Johnson's over rated ass 15 mil/yr.
[ Edited by JimmyJesus on Jan 7, 2018 at 6:11 AM ]
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
K. Williams is only making 2.3 mil in 2018 bro, that's a little nibble. I'm paying P. Robinson no more than a 2yr/ 14mil deal. If not, bye. How much do you think he'll get?

A. Witherspoon isn't getting paid s**t, K. Williams 2.3 mil, J. Jackson will probably get around 4mil...I think we can afford to pay P. Robinson 7 mil for quality depth/ 2yrs.

That's 14mil for four quality cornerbacks, you can't complain bro , better than paying Trumaine Johnson's over rated ass 15 mil/yr.

Like I said you're not paying starter money to Robinson to sit the bench, they like Williams (hence the extension). It's not like he played poorly.

Why in the world would you give Robinson $7 million to be depth? He isn't anything more than a slot guy.

I would most definitely complain if that's who they sign lol.

If you want a "cheaper" signing for someone that had one very good yr, why not go after Rashaan Melvin? He had a very good season and actually plays outside where imo we need a vet. He's not gonna make anything close to T Johnson money and he's two yrs younger than Robinson.
I'd have to agree with NY, Robinson is the last CB needed, I like your draft tho, only thing I'd also like for is some competition at LB for Smith..
If the draft fell this way I'd be happy, but I agree with some who believe many will be gone before your pick. Of course, at this point no one knows! Which makes your mock fun to consider.

Things I really like, as we shouldn't get too wound up about specific players, is the emphasis you put on finding FAs to fill immediate needs with draftees supplementing those additions. I would add FA WRs and pass rusher, but all is good at this point of the season! Good job! WR may really want to play with JG and pass rusher may look at this defense and say..."all they need is me!"
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Jan 7, 2018 at 6:55 AM ]
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
K. Williams is only making 2.3 mil in 2018 bro, that's a little nibble. I'm paying P. Robinson no more than a 2yr/ 14mil deal. If not, bye. How much do you think he'll get?

A. Witherspoon isn't getting paid s**t, K. Williams 2.3 mil, J. Jackson will probably get around 4mil...I think we can afford to pay P. Robinson 7 mil for quality depth/ 2yrs.

That's 14mil for four quality cornerbacks, you can't complain bro , better than paying Trumaine Johnson's over rated ass 15 mil/yr.

Like I said you're not paying starter money to Robinson to sit the bench, they like Williams (hence the extension). It's not like he played poorly.

Why in the world would you give Robinson $7 million to be depth? He isn't anything more than a slot guy.

I would most definitely complain if that's who they sign lol.

If you want a "cheaper" signing for someone that had one very good yr, why not go after Rashaan Melvin? He had a very good season and actually plays outside where imo we need a vet. He's not gonna make anything close to T Johnson money and he's two yrs younger than Robinson.
I drafted Q. Meeks in the later rounds, he's 6'1, and out of Stanford, good prospect to develop. I don't understand all the hate for P. Robinson, dude had 4 interceptions and was the #4 rated CB in the NFL. $7mil isn't much (not my money lol) and he provides quality depth until the youngsters are up to speed. I'm keeping him in my mock.
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I'd have to agree with NY, Robinson is the last CB needed, I like your draft tho, only thing I'd also like for is some competition at LB for Smith..

I agree, I watched some videos of linebackers but no one stood out. I guess the bar is raised high when you've been watching P. Willis/ N. Bowman, and now R. Foster.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
K. Williams is only making 2.3 mil in 2018 bro, that's a little nibble. I'm paying P. Robinson no more than a 2yr/ 14mil deal. If not, bye. How much do you think he'll get?

A. Witherspoon isn't getting paid s**t, K. Williams 2.3 mil, J. Jackson will probably get around 4mil...I think we can afford to pay P. Robinson 7 mil for quality depth/ 2yrs.

That's 14mil for four quality cornerbacks, you can't complain bro , better than paying Trumaine Johnson's over rated ass 15 mil/yr.

Like I said you're not paying starter money to Robinson to sit the bench, they like Williams (hence the extension). It's not like he played poorly.

Why in the world would you give Robinson $7 million to be depth? He isn't anything more than a slot guy.

I would most definitely complain if that's who they sign lol.

If you want a "cheaper" signing for someone that had one very good yr, why not go after Rashaan Melvin? He had a very good season and actually plays outside where imo we need a vet. He's not gonna make anything close to T Johnson money and he's two yrs younger than Robinson.
Because 49ers get hurt, and I'd rather have Patrick Robinson starting than Greg Mabin. We have lots of $$$.
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I'd have to agree with NY, Robinson is the last CB needed, I like your draft tho, only thing I'd also like for is some competition at LB for Smith..

I agree, I watched some videos of linebackers but no one stood out. I guess the bar is raised high when you've been watching P. Willis/ N. Bowman, and now R. Foster.

Yeah we were spoiled with those 2, a lot hope that we are spoiled again watching Foster and drafting Roquan Smith which I'm not against..
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Patrick Robinson is a slot DB Williams already plays that role. We need someone on the outside to take DJs spot.

I like some of the guys you targeted in the draft but I don't see half of them going where you have them projected...what did you use for a big board?

Josh Jackson would replace Dontae Johnson. I used Walter Football for the draft slots (CBS had C. Ridley 36th overall, so I definitely didn't use them).

Gotcha. I still don't see the point in going for Robinson cause they just gave Williams an extension to play slot and he's started coming on strong towards the end of the yr. we need depth at outside CB even if we draft Jackson (who I like).

Also wish you would have adding something better at RB, this draft is full of good prospects.
Thanks for the mock!

You need more than one slot guy nowadays, it's a passing league. I did draft a RB, Kyle Hicks is legit. We have a good RB stable, K. Shanahan wouldn't have kept them around if he didn't think so. C'mon man lol
Originally posted by JimmyJesus:
You need more than one slot guy nowadays, it's a passing league. I did draft a RB, Kyle Hicks is legit. We have a good RB stable, K. Shanahan wouldn't have kept them around if he didn't think so. C'mon man lol

Hey it's your mock, just critiquing it

Imo I don't see the pt giving Robinson starter cash when we have a quality starter playing in the slot (that the team likes). We also have ward who's getting $8.5 million next yr, he could play the slot if Williams gets hurt. I also don't see Robinson going to SF if he's gonna be a bench guy. He will get more cash and snaps elsewhere.

As far as RB I just see other prospects that are better....our current RB Corp (Hyde is a FA) imo are very underwhelming. I will be very disappointed if that's our RB Corp rolling into 2018. Especially with this draft class.

I have no idea what you mean by didn't keep them around? They didn't draft jeremy mcnichols, didn't draft breida, and the one rb they did draft got a red shirt yr cause he was horrible in training camp and got outplayed by a UDFA.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 7, 2018 at 8:32 AM ]
I made some changes, still tons of $$$ available, hopefully next year FA will be better.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like I said you're not paying starter money to Robinson to sit the bench, they like Williams (hence the extension). It's not like he played poorly.

Why in the world would you give Robinson $7 million to be depth? He isn't anything more than a slot guy.

I would most definitely complain if that's who they sign lol.

If you want a "cheaper" signing for someone that had one very good yr, why not go after Rashaan Melvin? He had a very good season and actually plays outside where imo we need a vet. He's not gonna make anything close to T Johnson money and he's two yrs younger than Robinson.
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[ Edited by JimmyJesus on Jan 7, 2018 at 11:07 AM ]
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