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Team Needs: EDGE, OL, CB, RB, WR

Re-sign:
QB - J.GARROPOLLO
DE - T.CARRADINE
OL - B.FUSCO
MLB - B.COYLE
EDGE - C.MARSH

Free Agency:
EDGE - E.ANSAH
CB - K.FULLER
RB - D.LEWIS
C - R.JENSEN
SAM - N.BRADHAM
TE - J.GRAHAM
WR - T.GABRIEL
CB - R.MELVIN

Draft:
1st - QUENTON NELSON (OG)
*1st - VITA VEA (NT)
3rd - ANTHONY MILLER (WR)
4th - RASHAAD PENNY (RB)
5th - JAMARCUS KING (CB)
6th - D'ERNEST JOHNSON (RB)
7a - TRENT HARRIS (EDGE)
7b  - CASEY DUNN (C)

*Trade back into 1st Rd using 2nd(Saints) & 3rd(own)

1st rd rookie contracts for OG and NT won't break the bank and we can ride them for 5 years by picking up their 5th yr options without hurting our cap space.

Nelson is a Pro Bowler in the making and he should lock down that position for the next 10+ years. I don't care what anyone says but when you find a legit player that will protect your franchise QB for 10+ yrs at an elite level, you pick him up no matter what position you pick him. A sure Pro Bowler in any position is worth a 1st rd pick IMO.

Vita Vea..I know, I understand this is not a position of need. BUT, Just picture having a more explosive Ngata playing next to Buckner. Teams won't be able to double both of them, they will stuff the run and collapse that pocket every time. Vea doesn't have to come out on passing downs, him and Buck can push that pocket with Ansah, Dumervill, Thomas, AA and Marsh rushing from the Edge. Vea and Buck will be nightmares for any offense that we face for the next 5-10 years. Foster and the LB corps will have a field day behind this DL.

Championship teams are built from the trenches out and we took care of that with the 1st two picks and FA. After this offseason, we should have at least the top 3 OL and DL in the league.

Offense:

Staley-Nelson-Jensen-Garnett-Brown
(3 first rounders, and a very good C and RT)

Defense:

Thomas-Vea-Buckner-Ansah
(4 first rounders)
(SAM)Bradham-(MIKE)Foster-(WILL)Smith
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Team Needs: EDGE, OL, CB, RB, WR

Re-sign:
QB - J.GARROPOLLO
DE - T.CARRADINE
OL - B.FUSCO
MLB - B.COYLE
EDGE - C.MARSH

Free Agency:
EDGE - E.ANSAH
CB - K.FULLER
RB - D.LEWIS
C - R.JENSEN
SAM - N.BRADHAM
TE - J.GRAHAM
WR - T.GABRIEL
CB - R.MELVIN

Draft:
1st - QUENTON NELSON (OG)
*1st - VITA VEA (NT)
3rd - ANTHONY MILLER (WR)
4th - RASHAAD PENNY (RB)
5th - JAMARCUS KING (CB)
6th - D'ERNEST JOHNSON (RB)
7a - TRENT HARRIS (EDGE)
7b  - CASEY DUNN (C)

*Trade back into 1st Rd using 2nd(Saints) & 3rd(own)

1st rd rookie contracts for OG and NT won't break the bank and we can ride them for 5 years by picking up their 5th yr options without hurting our cap space.

Nelson is a Pro Bowler in the making and he should lock down that position for the next 10+ years. I don't care what anyone says but when you find a legit player that will protect your franchise QB for 10+ yrs at an elite level, you pick him up no matter what position you pick him. A sure Pro Bowler in any position is worth a 1st rd pick IMO.

Vita Vea..I know, I understand this is not a position of need. BUT, Just picture having a more explosive Ngata playing next to Buckner. Teams won't be able to double both of them, they will stuff the run and collapse that pocket every time. Vea doesn't have to come out on passing downs, him and Buck can push that pocket with Ansah, Dumervill, Thomas, AA and Marsh rushing from the Edge. Vea and Buck will be nightmares for any offense that we face for the next 5-10 years. Foster and the LB corps will have a field day behind this DL.

Championship teams are built from the trenches out and we took care of that with the 1st two picks and FA. After this offseason, we should have at least the top 3 OL and DL in the league.

Offense:

Staley-Nelson-Jensen-Garnett-Brown
(3 first rounders, and a very good C and RT)

Defense:

Thomas-Vea-Buckner-Ansah
(4 first rounders)
(SAM)Bradham-(MIKE)Foster-(WILL)Smith

Love it but the trade down is un-realistic.

That's alot of money spent in free agency. I can't see us dishing out 4 big contracts to Ansah, Fuller, Jensen and Lewis. And Graham, Bradham, Gabriel and Melvin won't be cheap. That's all our cap space gone in a year.

Ansah 10-15 mil
Fuller 10-12 mil
Jensen 9-10 mil
Lewis 5-6 mil
Graham 7-9 mil
Bradham 5-7 mil
Melvin 7-9 mil
Gabriel 4-7 mil

So on the cheap aide you have us spending 56 million. Throw in 10 for the draft class and 25 for Jimmy and we ate up most of our money. I just can't see Lynch trying to buy a team. We will spend on a few guys who are fits (Ansah, Pugh) and add a few depth players but I can't see him blowing his wad like that.

No way a back end of the 2nd and a 3rd is enough to get back in the first. Put it this way, would you be happy if we were sitting at 24/25 and traded down for 59 and a 3rd? No team will do that especially with the 5th year option.
[ Edited by SteveYoung on Jan 23, 2018 at 5:29 AM ]
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Love it but the trade down is un-realistic.

That's alot of money spent in free agency. I can't see us dishing out 4 big contracts to Ansah, Fuller, Jensen and Lewis. And Graham, Bradham, Gabriel and Melvin won't be cheap. That's all our cap space gone in a year.

Ansah 10-15 mil
Fuller 10-12 mil
Jensen 9-10 mil
Lewis 5-6 mil
Graham 7-9 mil
Bradham 5-7 mil
Melvin 7-9 mil
Gabriel 4-7 mil

So on the cheap aide you have us spending 56 million. Throw in 10 for the draft class and 25 for Jimmy and we ate up most of our money. I just can't see Lynch trying to buy a team. We will spend on a few guys who are fits (Ansah, Pugh) and add a few depth players but I can't see him blowing his wad like that.

No way a back end of the 2nd and a 3rd is enough to get back in the first. Put it this way, would you be happy if we were sitting at 24/25 and traded down for 59 and a 3rd? No team will do that especially with the 5th year option.
As sexy as this sound, I have to agree with the above. Maybe leave out Graham, Gabriel and Lewis, since we have Kittle,Goodwin and Williams....
Yea i agree with SY on this one. You went overboard on FA's and that trade back in the 1st isn't realistic. I'd be fine with Fuller Jensen and Melvin in FA. Ziggy also but you can't do everything in one off season.
I don't see SF spending that much in FA just don't...I also do see us giving up picks to move up for a NT.
I didn't think the rookie pay scale changed due to position?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I didn't think the rookie pay scale changed due to position?

It's doesn't...that's the reason zeke and Fournette are two of the higher end paid RBs in the league because their rookie contracts are more than what most RBs get paid.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I didn't think the rookie pay scale changed due to position?

It's doesn't...that's the reason zeke and Fournette are two of the higher end paid RBs in the league because their rookie contracts are more than what most RBs get paid.

I didn't realize Zeke and Fournette rookie contracts puts them in the upper pay scale of running backs overall.
Good mock! I would make one major change--switch NT with Edge Rusher in the first round. Instead of Vea (who may go much higher) I would take DE Davenport. QB and pass rusher are the two most difficult positions to fill, they have JG now let's get an elite pass rusher! They have Mitchell and DJ Jones playing in the middle of the line, have had a huge improvement in run defense so Vea would be a luxury pick they can't afford and don't necessarily need.

If they could sign all those FAs? Wow, would be fantastic and elevate the team to mid/high level! In one year!
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I didn't think the rookie pay scale changed due to position?

It's doesn't...that's the reason zeke and Fournette are two of the higher end paid RBs in the league because their rookie contracts are more than what most RBs get paid.

I didn't realize Zeke and Fournette rookie contracts puts them in the upper pay scale of running backs overall.

Yup Zeke is the 9th highest paid and Fournette is the 5th highest paid. Bell is at the top because of the tag. I also suspect Doug Martin and Chris Ivory will both be cut.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Team Needs: EDGE, OL, CB, RB, WR

Re-sign:
QB - J.GARROPOLLO
DE - T.CARRADINE
OL - B.FUSCO
MLB - B.COYLE
EDGE - C.MARSH

Free Agency:
EDGE - E.ANSAH
CB - K.FULLER
RB - D.LEWIS
C - R.JENSEN
SAM - N.BRADHAM
TE - J.GRAHAM
WR - T.GABRIEL
CB - R.MELVIN

Draft:
1st - QUENTON NELSON (OG)
*1st - VITA VEA (NT)
3rd - ANTHONY MILLER (WR)
4th - RASHAAD PENNY (RB)
5th - JAMARCUS KING (CB)
6th - D'ERNEST JOHNSON (RB)
7a - TRENT HARRIS (EDGE)
7b  - CASEY DUNN (C)

*Trade back into 1st Rd using 2nd(Saints) & 3rd(own)

1st rd rookie contracts for OG and NT won't break the bank and we can ride them for 5 years by picking up their 5th yr options without hurting our cap space.

Nelson is a Pro Bowler in the making and he should lock down that position for the next 10+ years. I don't care what anyone says but when you find a legit player that will protect your franchise QB for 10+ yrs at an elite level, you pick him up no matter what position you pick him. A sure Pro Bowler in any position is worth a 1st rd pick IMO.

Vita Vea..I know, I understand this is not a position of need. BUT, Just picture having a more explosive Ngata playing next to Buckner. Teams won't be able to double both of them, they will stuff the run and collapse that pocket every time. Vea doesn't have to come out on passing downs, him and Buck can push that pocket with Ansah, Dumervill, Thomas, AA and Marsh rushing from the Edge. Vea and Buck will be nightmares for any offense that we face for the next 5-10 years. Foster and the LB corps will have a field day behind this DL.

Championship teams are built from the trenches out and we took care of that with the 1st two picks and FA. After this offseason, we should have at least the top 3 OL and DL in the league.

Offense:

Staley-Nelson-Jensen-Garnett-Brown
(3 first rounders, and a very good C and RT)

Defense:

Thomas-Vea-Buckner-Ansah
(4 first rounders)
(SAM)Bradham-(MIKE)Foster-(WILL)Smith


Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Love it but the trade down is un-realistic.

That's alot of money spent in free agency. I can't see us dishing out 4 big contracts to Ansah, Fuller, Jensen and Lewis. And Graham, Bradham, Gabriel and Melvin won't be cheap. That's all our cap space gone in a year.

Ansah 10-15 mil
Fuller 10-12 mil
Jensen 9-10 mil
Lewis 5-6 mil
Graham 7-9 mil
Bradham 5-7 mil
Melvin 7-9 mil
Gabriel 4-7 mil

So on the cheap aide you have us spending 56 million. Throw in 10 for the draft class and 25 for Jimmy and we ate up most of our money. I just can't see Lynch trying to buy a team. We will spend on a few guys who are fits (Ansah, Pugh) and add a few depth players but I can't see him blowing his wad like that.

No way a back end of the 2nd and a 3rd is enough to get back in the first. Put it this way, would you be happy if we were sitting at 24/25 and traded down for 59 and a 3rd? No team will do that especially with the 5th year option.

You're right, well in that case, I'll throw in next year's 2nd to sweeten the deal. Lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't see SF spending that much in FA just don't...I also do see us giving up picks to move up for a NT.

I wouldn't considered Vea as just a NT. He can push and collapse the pocket and doesn't have to come out on passing down. More of a new hybrid NT that'll free up other rushes because he can pass rush himself. When Ngata was in his prime, he was unstoppable and Suggs and R.Lewis had the best years of their respectful careers. Vea is more explosive than Ngata and would put fear on any offense with him and Buck manning the middle. Im not sold on Mitchell even tho our run defense improved he was still the weak link on that line.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Good mock! I would make one major change--switch NT with Edge Rusher in the first round. Instead of Vea (who may go much higher) I would take DE Davenport. QB and pass rusher are the two most difficult positions to fill, they have JG now let's get an elite pass rusher! They have Mitchell and DJ Jones playing in the middle of the line, have had a huge improvement in run defense so Vea would be a luxury pick they can't afford and don't necessarily need.

If they could sign all those FAs? Wow, would be fantastic and elevate the team to mid/high level! In one year!

I would not complain a bit if we got Davenport. But the reason why I went with Vea is because I picked up Ziggy Ansah as my Edge Rusher in FA. Plus this year's draft class doesn't have an elite Edge Rusher like a Von Miller, Bosa, Clowney or a Garrett.

I know my FA is wishful thinking but the Jags had one of the highest cap spaces last year and they spend on some of the high profile players that took them to the next level. We can go the same path as the Jags and shortened our rebuilding years since we already have a FQB in our hands. Its time to compete now with Jimmy GQ
[ Edited by 808niner4lyphe on Jan 23, 2018 at 3:28 PM ]
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