Mock 2.0

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by davidboutte:

I'm stating that we shouldn't wait. I agree Carr contract is the baseline for signing Jimmy G. 5/125 70. I believe we'll need to spice that up. Rather then go more per year, or add guaranteed money to that 5/125 I chose to add unguaranteed years that in my opinion are team friendly and put more guarantees in the first 4 years. In years 5-8 we get a QB who could easily be top 5, making 2017 market value for an above average starting QB to hit FA. Jimmy becomes the 1st 200 man. Agent gets kudos. And we still avoid going over 25 per. Rodgers, Cousins, Ryan will all surpass Stanford in my opinion. Before those happen this to me is win win. The 30 million in guarantees is essentially betting Jimmy is healthy in year 4 of the contract. Hopefully our line is solid by then. Guaranteed money really only protects from injury typically. We're not cutting him if he's hurt anyway. Are there other ways to structure of course. But jimmy isn't getting a Kap type deal and even after 7 starts I agree with that. Based on only 7 starts getting 100 is crazy. But QB numbers in general are. There are some pro's in addition to the risk.

I get what you're saying but why do we have to spice it up? Everything I've read says he wants to be here and he's got the perfect coach to help him.

I don't think we have to make him the first $200 million dollar man to get him to be the QB LT. Kirk is a totally different situation because he's gonna be a FA. Rogers is a SB winning QB that has proven he's a top 3 QB in this league for 10 years. Jimmy G isn't at that point yet.

The Derrick Carr deal makes sense imo. There's no reason to give him more guaranteed money then any QB currently. It totally f**ks the market for every team looking to extend the position...If JG gets $100 million what the hell does Rogers get??

Stafford got 92-94 so what does Rodgers get? I feel you. You're right about the 30 guarantee. I just like the thought of 8 years at 25 each. We'll end up paying more then that

Originally posted by davidboutte:

Stafford got 92-94 so what does Rodgers get? I feel you. You're right about the 30 guarantee. I just like the thought of 8 years at 25 each. We'll end up paying more then that

If we could get him for an 8 yr contract at $25 a yr yeah sure that would be the tits...there's no reason for him to sign such a long deal though. I don't even think there's a contract that has a length of that

Yeah Stafford has a little under $100 million, he's also thrown for 4,000 + yards and hasn't missed a game for 7 straight yrs. jimmy G has 7 career starts huge difference. 5 yrs $125 is a great number, puts him near the top, is a f**k ton of money, and allows him to hit the market again when he's still in his prime.

Where's that $200 million and $100 million guaranteed

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Where's that $200 million and $100 million guaranteed

He got more then anyone per year and 90 guaranteed. I like 25 per, 100 guaranteed, and 3 team options way better. As I said Carr contract plus spices...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by davidboutte:

Stafford got 92-94 so what does Rodgers get? I feel you. You're right about the 30 guarantee. I just like the thought of 8 years at 25 each. We'll end up paying more then that

If we could get him for an 8 yr contract at $25 a yr yeah sure that would be the tits...there's no reason for him to sign such a long deal though. I don't even think there's a contract that has a length of that

Yeah Stafford has a little under $100 million, he's also thrown for 4,000 + yards and hasn't missed a game for 7 straight yrs. jimmy G has 7 career starts huge difference. 5 yrs $125 is a great number, puts him near the top, is a f**k ton of money, and allows him to hit the market again when he's still in his prime.

And jimmy got more! Wild but predictable

Originally posted by davidboutte:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where's that $200 million and $100 million guaranteed

He got more then anyone per year and 90 guaranteed. I like 25 per, 100 guaranteed, and 3 team options way better. As I said Carr contract plus spices...

he got $90 million over the first three yrs but only $74 guaranteed.