Cuts
Coleman
McKinnon
Nzchoa
Beathard
Restructured
Jimmy G- save 19 million
Resign/extend/franchised
AA franchised but traded, he wants over 15 million a year and the DE/DT free agents are stacked, I think the cheaper player I chose to replace him will be even better then him with the talent we have in the front 4
Juice extended
Buckner extended
Kittle extended
Ward resigned
Garland resigned
Blair resigned
Free Agency
DE Leonard Williams 5 yrs 45 million ( keep reading, bring Williams back to the west coast, he's younger and has been a better player in his career then AA has and his market value is not as high according to Spotrac, it's at 8.2 annually )
WR Taylor Gabriel 2 yrs 8 Million
Trades
Goodwin for a 5th
AA tagged and traded for a 2nd ( he's going to ask for 15+ and rather have Williams for 6-8 million less )
Thomas and early 5th for a late 3rd
Trade back from the early 2nd rd pick we receive for AA and a 7th for a late 2nd and 4th
2020 NFL DRAFT
This draft for me is all about a starter with the 1st pick and depth that turns into future starters with most
1st Round - WR out of Baylor Denzel Mims, has been my draft crush for a while, he has shown as a prospect he has everything you love, fits so well in this offense with Deebo and the newly acquired Gabriel and the best TE in the league
2nd Round - OL out of Washington Trey Adams, future LT but beats out Person at RG, creates great depth with Garland, Person, Brunskill and Skule
3rd Round - DE our of Utah Bradley Anae, perfect scenario for him, learns from Bosa and Ford, then takes over for Ford, will obviously get some playing time considering it feels like we can't count on Ford
4th Round - ILB out of Cal Evan Weaver, was going CB here but I'm not fond of any around this time, so I take a great player who is going to make this team better, great back up for Kwon and Warner and great ST player.
Round 5 - S out of Clemson Tanner Muse, another of those just great players, surprised how fast he ran so he might go sooner, with him and Weaver depth and ST just became strongest in awhile
Round 5 CB out of Mizzou Demakus Acy, thought he'd perform way better this year, writers had him a potential 1st rd pick, he's talented and worth a chance with a 5th rd selection
Round 6 RB out of Baylor Jamys Hasty, my sleeper who I think becomes a steal in this draft, he reminds me of Freeman and we know what Shanahan did for his career.
Round 7 TE out of USF Mitchell Wilcox, can he beat out Dwelly for the 2nd TE, think he needs to learn more on the blocking side, he's a great receiving threat already
Thoughts ?
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Mar 13, 2020 at 2:23 AM
- jersey49er
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Mar 13, 2020 at 6:05 AM
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boy I'm gonna have to disagree with a lot in here...sorry dude
-Leonard Williams: zero chance that he's only getting $9M per yr. NY will at the very least tag him. Spotrac also has AJ Green at a 2yr $18M market value? Can we get him too....point is they're wayyy off in certain scenarios. Also Williams IMO isn't very good. Much rather develop a DT.
-McKinnon: I see no reason as to not restructure him. They save more money (vs just cutting him) and can still cut him during TC/OTAs if he's done.
-Jimmy G: IMO if he was gonna be restructured it would have happened by now. There might be some hesitates because this will make him the LT answer at QB. As of now he's on year to year team option deals. The FO might like that flexibility at least for one more yr.
-Denzel Mims: He's my boy...I still feel like a 1st rd pick is kinda rich. BUT he does bring something different in the WR room which we need.
-Trey Adams: Where are you getting your big boards from? There's absolutely no way he's a 2nd rd prospect at this pt. Kid might go undrafted because of all his injuries.
-Evan Weaver: I honestly haven't watched much at LB because I don't think they will draft one. They have 3 very good LBers and need to upgrade at other positions.
I like Hasty/Anae.
-Leonard Williams: zero chance that he's only getting $9M per yr. NY will at the very least tag him. Spotrac also has AJ Green at a 2yr $18M market value? Can we get him too....point is they're wayyy off in certain scenarios. Also Williams IMO isn't very good. Much rather develop a DT.
-McKinnon: I see no reason as to not restructure him. They save more money (vs just cutting him) and can still cut him during TC/OTAs if he's done.
-Jimmy G: IMO if he was gonna be restructured it would have happened by now. There might be some hesitates because this will make him the LT answer at QB. As of now he's on year to year team option deals. The FO might like that flexibility at least for one more yr.
-Denzel Mims: He's my boy...I still feel like a 1st rd pick is kinda rich. BUT he does bring something different in the WR room which we need.
-Trey Adams: Where are you getting your big boards from? There's absolutely no way he's a 2nd rd prospect at this pt. Kid might go undrafted because of all his injuries.
-Evan Weaver: I honestly haven't watched much at LB because I don't think they will draft one. They have 3 very good LBers and need to upgrade at other positions.
I like Hasty/Anae.
Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM
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Yeah Adams doesn't make any sense for us, definitely not in the 2nd round either. Also at 6'8 he'd make a very sh*t guard for us. It worked for Boone but Kap was taller than Jimmy and Adams simply isn't athletic enough to play guard in this scheme.
Mar 13, 2020 at 9:59 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:boy I'm gonna have to disagree with a lot in here...sorry dude
-Leonard Williams: zero chance that he's only getting $9M per yr. NY will at the very least tag him. Spotrac also has AJ Green at a 2yr $18M market value? Can we get him too....point is they're wayyy off in certain scenarios. Also Williams IMO isn't very good. Much rather develop a DT.
-McKinnon: I see no reason as to not restructure him. They save more money (vs just cutting him) and can still cut him during TC/OTAs if he's done.
-Jimmy G: IMO if he was gonna be restructured it would have happened by now. There might be some hesitates because this will make him the LT answer at QB. As of now he's on year to year team option deals. The FO might like that flexibility at least for one more yr.
-Denzel Mims: He's my boy...I still feel like a 1st rd pick is kinda rich. BUT he does bring something different in the WR room which we need.
-Trey Adams: Where are you getting your big boards from? There's absolutely no way he's a 2nd rd prospect at this pt. Kid might go undrafted because of all his injuries.
-Evan Weaver: I honestly haven't watched much at LB because I don't think they will draft one. They have 3 very good LBers and need to upgrade at other positions.
I like Hasty/Anae.
Lol it's cool, we can't agree on all, you might be right on the giants tagging Willians but I disagree on that he's not very good, he would be great along this line but a lot would bc of the talent. And I said to myself he's worth more the 9 million but went on spotrac
As for McKinnon I'm unsure how they save more money but either way he's gone IMO
Another restructure has to come from somewhere if they want to resign/extend/sign players. So from who ?
Denzel Mims is my guy and if we get extra picks by not trading our 1st and don't resign Sanders and Mims is available you know I'm taking him NY lol
As for Trey Adams, IMO no way he gets out if the 3rd, yes his back was his latest injury but he came back from it and looked strong and healthy, he's a 4 yr starter who dominated, a team will take a chance on him bc if not for the health concerns which I agree are big he would be a top 15 pick. I've went off mocks mostly, drafttek, CBS, Walter football have him ranked 2-3 rd prospect
Yeah as for Weaver I was stuck with the pick, really wanted a CB but other then the top 4-5 I dislike this class.
But thanks for your opinions tho for the 1st time we disagree lol s**t happens I guess
[ Edited by jersey49er on Mar 13, 2020 at 10:07 AM ]
Mar 13, 2020 at 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by genus49:Yeah Adams doesn't make any sense for us, definitely not in the 2nd round either. Also at 6'8 he'd make a very sh*t guard for us. It worked for Boone but Kap was taller than Jimmy and Adams simply isn't athletic enough to play guard in this scheme.
Good point on his height at G
Mar 13, 2020 at 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by jersey49er:Lol it's cool, we can't agree on all, you might be right on the giants tagging Willians but I disagree on that he's not very good, he would be great along this line but a lot would bc of the talent. And I said to myself he's worth more the 9 million but went on spotrac
As for McKinnon I'm unsure how they save more money but either way he's gone IMO
Another restructure has to come from somewhere if they want to resign/extend/sign players. So from who ?
Denzel Mims is my guy and if we get extra picks by not trading our 1st and don't resign Sanders and Mims is available you know I'm taking him NY lol
As for Trey Adams, IMO no way he gets out if the 3rd, yes his back was his latest injury but he came back from it and looked strong and healthy, he's a 4 yr starter who dominated, a team will take a chance on him bc if not for the health concerns which I agree are big he would be a top 15 pick. I've went off mocks mostly, drafttek, CBS, Walter football have him ranked 2-3 rd prospect
Yeah as for Weaver I was stuck with the pick, really wanted a CB but other then the top 4-5 I dislike this class.
But thanks for your opinions tho for the 1st time we disagree lol s**t happens I guess
Williams has spans of time when he disappears in games. At this pt his draft pick kinda boosts his stock imo. Overall not a fan of the guy. But it's your mock
They can restructure McK to a one yr deal with incentives. Something around $1M in GTD. He get's to be part of a great team that will use his skill set perfectly. He gets a chance to earn money thru incentives and can hit FA in a yr. at this pt his market if cut is nonexistent.
SF gets a low cap hit and a chance to see if he can still play. he's already said he's all for it.
Cutting him saves $4M, restructuring can save like $6M. Makes sense on both sides.
Extending Buck can free up something like $7M+ this yr.
Money saved (estimate)...
-buck extension $7M
-restructuring McK $6M
-Goodwin cut/traded $3.6M+
-cut Coleman $4.9M
-Nze cut $1.5M
With a current cap of $15M that goes up to like $38M (estimate).
At this pt not sure Kittle gets signed this yr. more than enough to do some stuff including resign AA.
-Adams has had serious back/knee injuries and he's a horrible athlete. He lacks flexibility to play across the line as well. I'm telling ya he's closer to a late day 3 pick vs where you have SF picking him.
Yup can't always agree lol....we will see, thanks for the mock
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 13, 2020 at 10:57 AM ]
Mar 13, 2020 at 12:38 PM
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I disagree with NYs assessment of Williams, tho with him being in NY, I am willing to defer, seeing as I'm sure he has either had more time watching him, or has had more time hearing opinions on him from disgruntled fans and media. I see a perfect fit for us, as long as he comes in at 12mil or less on a short term deal. I think he gets more than the spotrac estimation, but also not close to his demands. In my view, he is an elite run stopper with the athletic upside to still contribute as a pass rusher in a rotational roll.
Imo, Mims is definitely a first round prospect (close to it even before testing. The 40 time was not at all a surprise). Trey Adams I got to agree is reach. Prior to his injury, he reminded me of Lewan, and while top half of the first round could have been estimated if leaving room for expected development, his film up to that point showed a day two pick. That development never happened because of injury, and while he did "come back" from it, I do not think he is the same player. He may come back to form with more time, but the injuries really seem to have sapped him of his atleticism.
Imo, Mims is definitely a first round prospect (close to it even before testing. The 40 time was not at all a surprise). Trey Adams I got to agree is reach. Prior to his injury, he reminded me of Lewan, and while top half of the first round could have been estimated if leaving room for expected development, his film up to that point showed a day two pick. That development never happened because of injury, and while he did "come back" from it, I do not think he is the same player. He may come back to form with more time, but the injuries really seem to have sapped him of his atleticism.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Mar 13, 2020 at 12:40 PM ]
Mar 13, 2020 at 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:I disagree with NYs assessment of Williams, tho with him being in NY, I am sure he has either had more time watching him, or has had more time hearing opinions on him from disgruntled fans and media. I see a perfect fit for us, as long as he comes in at 12mil or less on a short term deal. I think he gets more than the spotrac estimation, but also not close to his demands. In my view, he is an elite run stopper with the athletic upside to still contribute as a pass rusher in a rotational roll.
Imo, Mims is definitely a first round prospect (close to it even before testing. The 40 time was not at all a surprise). Trey Adams I got to agree is reach. He reminded me of Lewan prior to injury, and while top half of the first round could have been estimated of leaving room for development, his film up to that point showed a day two pick. That development never happened because of injury, and while he did "come back" from it, I do not think he is the same player. He may come back to form with more time, but the injuries really seem to have sapped him of his atleticism.
Thanks for your opinion, it's not even just Williams I see as a fit, a lot of free agent DL would fit well, Shaq Lawson, A' Shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed, all that will be cheaper then AA, and yup Mims has been my guy for a long time, I hope he's a niner, as for Trey Adams, might be a bit of a reach due to his injuries but I really think he goes in the 2nd-3rd
Mar 13, 2020 at 2:02 PM
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Love Mims but I have him going 30 to packers. Possibility from philly at 21, Buffalo 22, saints at 24. 30 is his floor I think. But I'd be happy with him at 31.
Gotta agree on Trey Adams. Guy ran a 5.6 40. Injury history suggests he's a late rounder or UDFA.
I'd be fine with your AA trade and Willians signing. We gotta keep the DL strong at a sustainable cost. Not sure what he'll get but won't beat you up on that. Thx
Gotta agree on Trey Adams. Guy ran a 5.6 40. Injury history suggests he's a late rounder or UDFA.
I'd be fine with your AA trade and Willians signing. We gotta keep the DL strong at a sustainable cost. Not sure what he'll get but won't beat you up on that. Thx
Mar 13, 2020 at 2:04 PM
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Originally posted by davidboutte:Love Mims but I have him going 30 to packers. Possibility from philly at 21, Buffalo 22, saints at 24. 30 is his floor I think. But I'd be happy with him at 31.
Gotta agree on Trey Adams. Guy ran a 5.6 40. Injury history suggests he's a late rounder or UDFA.
I'd be fine with your AA trade and Willians signing. We gotta keep the DL strong at a sustainable cost. Not sure what he'll get but won't beat you up on that. Thx
Thanks 👍🏻
Mar 13, 2020 at 7:54 PM
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Going to agree with NYNiner on a lot of this. Like the picks from a position standpoint, but not from a prospect standpoint. You are picking three guys in the early to mid rounds that are all good players but average to below average athletes (Adams, Anae, and Weaver). That's not who the Niners are at this point. Mims would be great, but he won't be there at 31 because he tested way better than anticipated.
Also think that McKinnon stays as a really low cost RB option that could finally be the multi dimensional threat he was supposed to be three years ago.
Also think that McKinnon stays as a really low cost RB option that could finally be the multi dimensional threat he was supposed to be three years ago.
Mar 14, 2020 at 8:45 AM
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I really like the assumptions for free agency and the picks especially Mims. We need a starter with the first pick. And the WR corp needs one since I'm pretty sure an expensive Sanders is leaving. And nobody on the team is getting restructured.
AA is not dumb, He will want his 15+ million. I bet he gets 17 million. Trade would be good then.
AA is not dumb, He will want his 15+ million. I bet he gets 17 million. Trade would be good then.
Mar 14, 2020 at 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by jersey49er:Originally posted by NYniner85:boy I'm gonna have to disagree with a lot in here...sorry dude
-Leonard Williams: zero chance that he's only getting $9M per yr. NY will at the very least tag him. Spotrac also has AJ Green at a 2yr $18M market value? Can we get him too....point is they're wayyy off in certain scenarios. Also Williams IMO isn't very good. Much rather develop a DT.
-McKinnon: I see no reason as to not restructure him. They save more money (vs just cutting him) and can still cut him during TC/OTAs if he's done.
-Jimmy G: IMO if he was gonna be restructured it would have happened by now. There might be some hesitates because this will make him the LT answer at QB. As of now he's on year to year team option deals. The FO might like that flexibility at least for one more yr.
-Denzel Mims: He's my boy...I still feel like a 1st rd pick is kinda rich. BUT he does bring something different in the WR room which we need.
-Trey Adams: Where are you getting your big boards from? There's absolutely no way he's a 2nd rd prospect at this pt. Kid might go undrafted because of all his injuries.
-Evan Weaver: I honestly haven't watched much at LB because I don't think they will draft one. They have 3 very good LBers and need to upgrade at other positions.
I like Hasty/Anae.
Lol it's cool, we can't agree on all, you might be right on the giants tagging Willians but I disagree on that he's not very good, he would be great along this line but a lot would bc of the talent. And I said to myself he's worth more the 9 million but went on spotrac
As for McKinnon I'm unsure how they save more money but either way he's gone IMO
Another restructure has to come from somewhere if they want to resign/extend/sign players. So from who ?
Denzel Mims is my guy and if we get extra picks by not trading our 1st and don't resign Sanders and Mims is available you know I'm taking him NY lol
As for Trey Adams, IMO no way he gets out if the 3rd, yes his back was his latest injury but he came back from it and looked strong and healthy, he's a 4 yr starter who dominated, a team will take a chance on him bc if not for the health concerns which I agree are big he would be a top 15 pick. I've went off mocks mostly, drafttek, CBS, Walter football have him ranked 2-3 rd prospect
Yeah as for Weaver I was stuck with the pick, really wanted a CB but other then the top 4-5 I dislike this class.
But thanks for your opinions tho for the 1st time we disagree lol s**t happens I guess
Specifics on Mckinnon as I understand them. He's owed 8 million this year with a 4 million dead cap hit if we cut him. So if we restructure his deal for anything less then 4 million it's basically getting him for free. And obviously he could still be cut after renegotiating
Mar 15, 2020 at 1:34 AM
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Originally posted by davidboutte:Originally posted by jersey49er:Originally posted by NYniner85:boy I'm gonna have to disagree with a lot in here...sorry dude
-Leonard Williams: zero chance that he's only getting $9M per yr. NY will at the very least tag him. Spotrac also has AJ Green at a 2yr $18M market value? Can we get him too....point is they're wayyy off in certain scenarios. Also Williams IMO isn't very good. Much rather develop a DT.
-McKinnon: I see no reason as to not restructure him. They save more money (vs just cutting him) and can still cut him during TC/OTAs if he's done.
-Jimmy G: IMO if he was gonna be restructured it would have happened by now. There might be some hesitates because this will make him the LT answer at QB. As of now he's on year to year team option deals. The FO might like that flexibility at least for one more yr.
-Denzel Mims: He's my boy...I still feel like a 1st rd pick is kinda rich. BUT he does bring something different in the WR room which we need.
-Trey Adams: Where are you getting your big boards from? There's absolutely no way he's a 2nd rd prospect at this pt. Kid might go undrafted because of all his injuries.
-Evan Weaver: I honestly haven't watched much at LB because I don't think they will draft one. They have 3 very good LBers and need to upgrade at other positions.
I like Hasty/Anae.
Lol it's cool, we can't agree on all, you might be right on the giants tagging Willians but I disagree on that he's not very good, he would be great along this line but a lot would bc of the talent. And I said to myself he's worth more the 9 million but went on spotrac
As for McKinnon I'm unsure how they save more money but either way he's gone IMO
Another restructure has to come from somewhere if they want to resign/extend/sign players. So from who ?
Denzel Mims is my guy and if we get extra picks by not trading our 1st and don't resign Sanders and Mims is available you know I'm taking him NY lol
As for Trey Adams, IMO no way he gets out if the 3rd, yes his back was his latest injury but he came back from it and looked strong and healthy, he's a 4 yr starter who dominated, a team will take a chance on him bc if not for the health concerns which I agree are big he would be a top 15 pick. I've went off mocks mostly, drafttek, CBS, Walter football have him ranked 2-3 rd prospect
Yeah as for Weaver I was stuck with the pick, really wanted a CB but other then the top 4-5 I dislike this class.
But thanks for your opinions tho for the 1st time we disagree lol s**t happens I guess
Specifics on Mckinnon as I understand them. He's owed 8 million this year with a 4 million dead cap hit if we cut him. So if we restructure his deal for anything less then 4 million it's basically getting him for free. And obviously he could still be cut after renegotiating
Thanks
Mar 15, 2020 at 6:12 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by davidboutte:Specifics on Mckinnon as I understand them. He's owed 8 million this year with a 4 million dead cap hit if we cut him. So if we restructure his deal for anything less then 4 million it's basically getting him for free. And obviously he could still be cut after renegotiating
You are correct...really no reason not to restructure him and see how he looks in TC/OTAs.