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Why does everybody want to trade back? Lets get 2 studs and roll!

Originally posted by 49erminion:
I traded back twice and got this haul :)

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 17 (DAL): Henry Ruggs, WR, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3 (DET): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Raekwon Davis, DE/DT, Alabama (B+)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DAL): Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty (A)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Akeem Davis-Gaither, OLB, Appalachian State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, Southern Illinois (A+)
Round 5 Pick 30: Brandon Pili, DT, USC (A+)
Round 6 Pick 31: Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt (A+)
Round 7 Pick 3: Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 31: Rashad Robinson, CB, James Madison (A-)

First pick is fun but highly unrealistic. I simply don't think #31 will offer a slam dunk pick where we can safely say would be heads and shoulders above what we could get in a trade down.

If you could guarantee me Ruggs and Ruiz with 13 and 31 then hell yeah sign me up. I'll party all day Friday celebrating that first round hall and not care that we don't pick again til later Saturday.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Its49ers4Life:
Bosa would've been better than any of those guys no matter what team he played on! Even without the numbers he was playing better but he just wasn't getting the sacks! My point is yes those other guys are good too but why settle for Allen or Ferrell when you have the chance to get Bosa! Just so you have more picks?

Deebo was also a possible first round talent though! I'm not saying we can't still get good players in later rounds but Pettis was also a 2nd round pick! Deebo has a great skill set for the way Kyle uses him. You have to draft for scheme fits we don't need another Deebo we need to compliment Deebo so the defense has more to worry about!

So you're saying only 3 WRs in the draft compliment Deebo?

No need in going back and forth. You believe what you believe. I see it differently. and I'm moving on

no I'm absolutely not saying there is only 3 wr in the draft that compliment Deebo! I'm saying why settle for a wr with a lesser skill set when we don't have to just to add another pick.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 49erminion:
I traded back twice and got this haul :)

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 17 (DAL): Henry Ruggs, WR, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3 (DET): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Raekwon Davis, DE/DT, Alabama (B+)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DAL): Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty (A)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Akeem Davis-Gaither, OLB, Appalachian State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, Southern Illinois (A+)
Round 5 Pick 30: Brandon Pili, DT, USC (A+)
Round 6 Pick 31: Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt (A+)
Round 7 Pick 3: Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 31: Rashad Robinson, CB, James Madison (A-)

And this is the kind of trade back im talking about. Doesn't have to be a huge trade back. But even if it were we still could get a comparable WR if thats the route they choose.

But a small trade back would still net us a stud while offering us more picks.

I could totally live with those minor trade backs to pick up picks. 13-17 still leaves us in good position to grab a top 3 wr and going from 31-35 isn't a bad trade either but most of the trades that I'm seeing I feel like we drop to many spots to get the same quality of players. I'd be a happy camper if the draft went the way you played it out bc we wouldn't be losing out on the top talent level to move back.
Originally posted by Its49ers4Life:
Originally posted by davidboutte:
I'm gonna agree with almost everything you said but also answer your question. First I'm 100% with drafting 1 or any of the top 3 WR at 13! No matter who's available. At 31 we can absolutely grab the best at IOL, IDL or CB and as you said roll. But, if you separate the prospects into tiers, in my opinion from about 25-40 is very similar. Let's look further at each position.

IOL Ruiz, Cushenberry, Hennessy, Hunt, Jackson

CB Terrell, Arnette, Diggs, Hall, Igbinoghene

IDL Gallimore, Blacklock, Madubuike, Davidson, Hamilton

The above players are all ranked from mid 20's to the 70's. Let's pretend we prefer Diggs at CB, Blacklock at IDL and Ruiz at IOL and all 3 are gone at 31. In that scenario we could be in a situation where we find someone willing to trade up like Detroit (35 and 67) Jacksonville (42 and 73) or Miami with (39 and 70)

Most of that list is still available at 35,39, and 42 and a few from that list are also still there at 67,70, or 73.

If we have our guy at 31 available I agree. But if we can add 3 starters by year 2 rather then 2, and the talent drop off is minimal I prefer an extra dart to throw.

Yes that's a very logical breakdown and I'm ok if it works out like that but a lot of the projected trades that I'm seeing involve us dropping way to many spots just to add another pick! If there's 2-3 guys we like on the board available at our pick and we can move back a few slots and still get our guy I'm ok with that. I'm just not down to be trading back just to get extra picks!


I agree. I don't wanna drop much lower then 42. The next tier of talent stops and starts around there. We can still get a similar stud as at 31 in that range. Then address another need with the extra pick. Then draft some end of the roster depth in rounds 5-7.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 49erminion:
I traded back twice and got this haul :)

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 17 (DAL): Henry Ruggs, WR, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3 (DET): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Raekwon Davis, DE/DT, Alabama (B+)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DAL): Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty (A)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Akeem Davis-Gaither, OLB, Appalachian State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, Southern Illinois (A+)
Round 5 Pick 30: Brandon Pili, DT, USC (A+)
Round 6 Pick 31: Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt (A+)
Round 7 Pick 3: Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 31: Rashad Robinson, CB, James Madison (A-)

And this is the kind of trade back im talking about. Doesn't have to be a huge trade back. But even if it were we still could get a comparable WR if thats the route they choose.

But a small trade back would still net us a stud while offering us more picks.

I'd absolutely be on board with small trade backs like these for more picks but the trades that I'm talking about are the ones I've been seeing where we go from 31-44 or something just to pick up a 4th round pick and stuff like that! those are the trades I'm just like why move back into different tiers of talent. i'm totaly game for this move though!
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