Waterbear mock #2 (Double trade down)

TRADES:
1. 49ers trade 1st round pick (#13 overall) to the Baltimore Ravens for 1st round pick (#28 overall) + 2nd round picks (#55 and #60 overall)
2. 49ers trade 1st round pick (#31 overall) to the Houston Texans for 2nd round picks (#40 and #57 overall)
3. 49ers trade 6th round pick (#210 overall) and 7th round pick (#217 overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for 6th round pick (#201 overall)

28. Jalen Reagor - WR- TCU



40. Ross Blacklock - DT - TCU



55. Damien Lewis - G - LSU



57. Antonio Gibson -RB/WR- Memphis



60. Jabari Zuniga - DE- Florida



156. Josiah Deguara -TE/FB - Cincinnati



201. Lavert Hill - CB- Michigan



245. Alex Givens - OT/G - Ole Miss

Great mock but the first two trades would never happen. We would owe Baltimore a mid to low 3rd and we would owe Houston a high 3rd.

I like the players you have us taking I just think you're overdrafting a few of them and starting with pick 13 IMO you have to get one of the top guys in this class.

I'm a big Reagor fan but if he's our first pick after we got the 13th pick I'd be pretty disappointed with the outcome.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Great mock but the first two trades would never happen. We would owe Baltimore a mid to low 3rd and we would owe Houston a high 3rd.

I went by the draft value chart so you might be right but crazier things have happened. I also think there's added value trading back into the first for the 5th year option.

Originally posted by genus49:

I like the players you have us taking I just think you're overdrafting a few of them and starting with pick 13 IMO you have to get one of the top guys in this class.

I'm a big Reagor fan but if he's our first pick after we got the 13th pick I'd be pretty disappointed with the outcome.

My biggest criticism of my own draft is that I think Reagor and Blacklock might go earlier than in this mock.

So I agree there.

But I disagree with your opinion that drafting Reagor as our top pick is a bad thing. The only thing that matters is getting the best draft possible.

Reagor + 2 second rounders than any top WR. This team still has holes and I don't see that big of a gap with the top 3 WRs.

Great Job. One of my favorite mocks!! I love the Gibson and Zuniga picks.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

My biggest criticism of my own draft is that I think Reagor and Blacklock might go earlier than in this mock.

So I agree there.

But I disagree with your opinion that drafting Reagor as our top pick is a bad thing. The only thing that matters is getting the best draft possible.

Reagor + 2 second rounders than any top WR. This team still has holes and I don't see that big of a gap with the top 3 WRs.

Sure it has holes but using 2 2nd round picks on depth players at positions of strength even if they're lower 2nd round picks isn't worth trading down for Reagor.

If you used them on CB or even more OL(not sure Lewis is worth a 2nd rounder either) then it would make sense. Like I said I like those players but I feel like you overdrafted them and they wouldn't get much playing time now...and we need to win now.

Yes we are drafting for long term success but when you're a team coming off a SB(even tho it's a loss) and you have two first round picks you better make them count and trading way back to just add depth isn't smart IMO.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I went by the draft value chart so you might be right but crazier things have happened. I also think there's added value trading back into the first for the 5th year option.

If you hit on the player, he's likely to get extended anyways, and if he's a bust the option will be declined.

The likelihood of this draft occurring is about the same as OP kissing Jane Slater's feet. ;)

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

My biggest criticism of my own draft is that I think Reagor and Blacklock might go earlier than in this mock.

So I agree there.

But I disagree with your opinion that drafting Reagor as our top pick is a bad thing. The only thing that matters is getting the best draft possible.

Reagor + 2 second rounders than any top WR. This team still has holes and I don't see that big of a gap with the top 3 WRs.

Sure it has holes but using 2 2nd round picks on depth players at positions of strength even if they're lower 2nd round picks isn't worth trading down for Reagor.

If you used them on CB or even more OL(not sure Lewis is worth a 2nd rounder either) then it would make sense. Like I said I like those players but I feel like you overdrafted them and they wouldn't get much playing time now...and we need to win now.

Yes we are drafting for long term success but when you're a team coming off a SB(even tho it's a loss) and you have two first round picks you better make them count and trading way back to just add depth isn't smart IMO.

Generally curious as to which players you think wouldn't start?

And don't get me started about position importance. You start worrying about that and that's how you get Soloman Thomas instead of Jamal Adams.

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

I went by the draft value chart so you might be right but crazier things have happened. I also think there's added value trading back into the first for the 5th year option.

If you hit on the player, he's likely to get extended anyways, and if he's a bust the option will be declined.

The likelihood of this draft occurring is about the same as OP kissing Jane Slater's feet. ;)

Absolutely this draft isn't likely. Lol

This is just my ideal scenario so far.

I'll do one more prediction mock closer to the draft.

Id love the first two trades and I'd hate the third. None are realistic. Reagor at 28 is fine, Blacklock at 40 is ideal and realistic. Gibson at 57 and Zuniga at 60 would be insane. For one we aren't drafting a 2nd round RB in any situation. For two one of the consensus top 3 RB's could be there. Gibson is not a 2nd round prospect. Zuniga isn't either. And it's not close. To make unrealistic trades and over draft players by multiple rounds is somewhat of an epic fail.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/03/draft-big-board-updated-top-100-prospects

Above is a top 100 ranking. One of many and just happened to be the first one I pulled up. Like everyone I've looked at or at least noticed Gibson and Zuniga aren't there. That being said I'm not opposed to either player as fits for our team at all. Either player in rounds 4-5 would be both accurate and justified. Nice job with videos and putting this together. I'd love to see reworked trades and picks. Since the trades were unfair and your players over drafted it's quite possible to adjust trades and draft same players at realistic spots and get positive feedback

I forgot Lewis at 55. Another over drafted player. He could go late day 2. But more likely a day 3 guy. He comes in at 96 on that list. Which puts him...... late day 2, early day 3.

Arnette or Hall at CB and several higher rated offensive lineman could make sense in the 55-60 range if the trades actually made sense. if we had 5 top 60 picks I'm not sure 2 of them would be DL.

28 Reagor
40 Blacklock
55 Arnette
57 Jonah Jackson
60 Bartch, Hunt, Hennessy, Hall, Niang

Other players in that range
Chinn, Dugger, Uche

Originally posted by davidboutte:
I forgot Lewis at 55. Another over drafted player. He could go late day 2. But more likely a day 3 guy. He comes in at 96 on that list. Which puts him...... late day 2, early day 3.

I'd be willing to bet Lewis goes much closer to 55 then late day 2. Wanna bet?

Edit: He's my and lots of other website's #2 interior OL prospect. I don't see how he would last anywhere near the end of the 3rd round.

Originally posted by davidboutte:

Id love the first two trades and I'd hate the third. None are realistic. Reagor at 28 is fine, Blacklock at 40 is ideal and realistic. Gibson at 57 and Zuniga at 60 would be insane. For one we aren't drafting a 2nd round RB in any situation. For two one of the consensus top 3 RB's could be there. Gibson is not a 2nd round prospect. Zuniga isn't either. And it's not close. To make unrealistic trades and over draft players by multiple rounds is somewhat of an epic fail.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/03/draft-big-board-updated-top-100-prospects

Above is a top 100 ranking. One of many and just happened to be the first one I pulled up. Like everyone I've looked at or at least noticed Gibson and Zuniga aren't there. That being said I'm not opposed to either player as fits for our team at all. Either player in rounds 4-5 would be both accurate and justified. Nice job with videos and putting this together. I'd love to see reworked trades and picks. Since the trades were unfair and your players over drafted it's quite possible to adjust trades and draft same players at realistic spots and get positive feedback

That's one websites projection. If you've been doing mocks as long as I have you know the projections vary greatly between sites and compared to the actual draft. So you could say some players are overdrafted but we will know for sure come draft time.