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Apr 6, 2024 at 9:57 PM

adrianlesnar
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[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 18, 2024 at 9:23 PM ]

Apr 7, 2024 at 8:01 AM

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Nice work. Don't want to lose ayiuk, but option 2 is pretty enticing

Apr 7, 2024 at 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Was going to do my typical long post, but too lazy this year. If anyone wants thoughts or discussion, I'll just post in here as appropriate. I'm doing two, two year plans: one with Aiyuk, and one without. I hope we go with the plan that keeps Aiyuk, and I don't expect Aiyuk to be traded.

Round | Player | Year 1 Ceiling | Rookie Ceiling

Trade 1 (M. Penix) to NO for 2+Rashid Shaheed+5+5
2 | Edgerrin Cooper | LB3 and 12 personnel destroyer | LB2, Greenlaw successor
2 | Marshawn Kneeland | EDGE 3 | Bookend opposite Bosa
Trade 3+4 for 3+6
3 | Mike Sainristil | CB3 | Starting nickel
Trade 4 + 5 for 4
4 | Dadrion Taylor-Demerson | S3 | Compete for starting safety
4 | Dominick Puni | Rotational Guard | Starting Guard
5 | Christian Jones | Starting RT
5 | Hunter Nourzad | Starting C
6 | Miles Battle | CB5/ST | CB2
6 | Jalen Coker | WR4
6 | Evan Anderson | Rotational 2 down run stuffer | Starting base NT
7 | Bo Richter, EDGE | Practice Squad | Designated pass rusher

2025 1 | Xavier Nwankpa, S | Hufanga successor
Trade Deebo Samuel for 2
2025 2 | Wyatt Milum, OT | Trent Williams successor
2025 2 | Elic Ayomanor, WR | Deebo successor
2025 3 | Jasheen Davis, EDGE | DE3
2025 3 | Aeneas Peebles, DT3T | Rotational DT3T
2025 4 | Khordae Sydnor, DE | Base end a la Omenihu
2025 6 TE
2025 7 RB
2025 7 RB
2025 7 OG

Or

Aiyuk Trade 1+3
1 Troy Fautanu, OT | Starting RT, eventual LT
1 Jackson Powers-Johnson, C | Starting C
2 Edgerrin Cooper, LB | LB3, eventual Greenlaw successor
3 Max Melton, CB | Versatilty to put best 3 (melton, demo, ward) on the field at their best positions
3 Dominick Puni, OG | Starting RG, potential Banks successor
4 Theo Johnson, TE | TE2, potential Kittle successor
4 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S | S3, eventual Hufanga successor
4 Javon Baker, WR | Low end WR2 production to develop into a high end WR2
5 Justin Rodgers, NT | Run stuffing, gap clogging NT
6 Caedan Wallace, RT | Eventual RT when Fautanu goes left
6 Jalen Coker, WR | WR4 to develop into low end WR2
7 Zach Heins, TE | TE3 type

2025 1 Dani Dennis-Sutton, EDGE | Bookend opposite Bosa
2025 2 Elic Ayomanor, WR | Deebo successor to be our "WR1" on paper
2025 3 Jasheen Davis, EDGE | Speed rusher
2025 3 Aeneas Peebles, DT | Rotational DT3T to help offset eventual Hargrave departure
2025 4 Khordae Sydnor, DE | Rotational base end that can reduce inside or be utilized on stunts.
2025 6 RB | Start building a foundation for life after CMC

Would you Trade both 1st rd picks to Tennessee if joe alt is there. Huge upgrade at RT and eventual replacement for Trent Williams. Take a wr in 2nd and take Isaac guerendo in 4th to give CMC some time off. Jaheim bell would be a good replacement for juice.

Apr 7, 2024 at 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Drod1008:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Was going to do my typical long post, but too lazy this year. If anyone wants thoughts or discussion, I'll just post in here as appropriate. I'm doing two, two year plans: one with Aiyuk, and one without. I hope we go with the plan that keeps Aiyuk, and I don't expect Aiyuk to be traded.

Round | Player | Year 1 Ceiling | Rookie Ceiling

Trade 1 (M. Penix) to NO for 2+Rashid Shaheed+5+5
2 | Edgerrin Cooper | LB3 and 12 personnel destroyer | LB2, Greenlaw successor
2 | Marshawn Kneeland | EDGE 3 | Bookend opposite Bosa
Trade 3+4 for 3+6
3 | Mike Sainristil | CB3 | Starting nickel
Trade 4 + 5 for 4
4 | Dadrion Taylor-Demerson | S3 | Compete for starting safety
4 | Dominick Puni | Rotational Guard | Starting Guard
5 | Christian Jones | Starting RT
5 | Hunter Nourzad | Starting C
6 | Miles Battle | CB5/ST | CB2
6 | Jalen Coker | WR4
6 | Evan Anderson | Rotational 2 down run stuffer | Starting base NT
7 | Bo Richter, EDGE | Practice Squad | Designated pass rusher

2025 1 | Xavier Nwankpa, S | Hufanga successor
Trade Deebo Samuel for 2
2025 2 | Wyatt Milum, OT | Trent Williams successor
2025 2 | Elic Ayomanor, WR | Deebo successor
2025 3 | Jasheen Davis, EDGE | DE3
2025 3 | Aeneas Peebles, DT3T | Rotational DT3T
2025 4 | Khordae Sydnor, DE | Base end a la Omenihu
2025 6 TE
2025 7 RB
2025 7 RB
2025 7 OG

Or

Aiyuk Trade 1+3
1 Troy Fautanu, OT | Starting RT, eventual LT
1 Jackson Powers-Johnson, C | Starting C
2 Edgerrin Cooper, LB | LB3, eventual Greenlaw successor
3 Max Melton, CB | Versatilty to put best 3 (melton, demo, ward) on the field at their best positions
3 Dominick Puni, OG | Starting RG, potential Banks successor
4 Theo Johnson, TE | TE2, potential Kittle successor
4 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S | S3, eventual Hufanga successor
4 Javon Baker, WR | Low end WR2 production to develop into a high end WR2
5 Justin Rodgers, NT | Run stuffing, gap clogging NT
6 Caedan Wallace, RT | Eventual RT when Fautanu goes left
6 Jalen Coker, WR | WR4 to develop into low end WR2
7 Zach Heins, TE | TE3 type

2025 1 Dani Dennis-Sutton, EDGE | Bookend opposite Bosa
2025 2 Elic Ayomanor, WR | Deebo successor to be our "WR1" on paper
2025 3 Jasheen Davis, EDGE | Speed rusher
2025 3 Aeneas Peebles, DT | Rotational DT3T to help offset eventual Hargrave departure
2025 4 Khordae Sydnor, DE | Rotational base end that can reduce inside or be utilized on stunts.
2025 6 RB | Start building a foundation for life after CMC

Would you Trade both 1st rd picks to Tennessee if joe alt is there. Huge upgrade at RT and eventual replacement for Trent Williams. Take a wr in 2nd and take Isaac guerendo in 4th to give CMC some time off. Jaheim bell would be a good replacement for juice.

I probably would not do the proposed trade, tho I'd understand it. I personally prefer the idea of two long-term OL prospects - keeping Aiyuk gives us, imo, the best chance at winning a Superbowl in 2024, but if we're going to let him go for cap saving purposes, then I like being able to completely reset the cap hits of the entire OL.

I dont think the value is right at 63 for WR. The tier 2 guys are probably mostly gone -- Pearsall, Legette, Wilson, etc -- and it's a bit early for the next tier of players who stand no chance of sniffing Aiyuk replacement levels of production. If we're moving off of Aiyuk, we do so knowing the offensive output of the passing game will take a hit. Don't over react and reach on an inadequate replacement for Aiyuk. Instead, maximize the roster in other more impactful areas. Baker and Coker have as much upside as any of those tier 3 guys. Of course, time will tell. Maybe someone good ends up being there for us.

I like Guerrendo, but I see way too many holes, current or within the next year or two, to justify a RB in the top 4 rounds. Mason and Mitchell have already proven they are good enough to give CMC time off. It's just a matter of if Shanny wants to. With no Aiyuk, I'd expect the team to lean even heavier on CMC, for better or worse.

Jaheim Bell seems to be a zone favorite, for good reason; he's a nice player. That said, I feel everyone is seeing "hmmm, undersized TE" and automatically thinking "convert him to FB! Juice replacement!" Bell is not a FB. I comp him to Jordan Reed. Everyone is looking for a TE, not quite good enough to stick there, that can play FB. Juice is a FB, good enough to play TE.

[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 7, 2024 at 12:07 PM ]

Apr 7, 2024 at 2:50 PM

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I probably would not do the proposed trade, tho I'd understand it. I personally prefer the idea of two long-term OL prospects - keeping Aiyuk gives us, imo, the best chance at winning a Superbowl in 2024, but if we're going to let him go for cap saving purposes, then I like being able to completely reset the cap hits of the entire OL.

I dont think the value is right at 63 for WR. The tier 2 guys are probably mostly gone -- Pearsall, Legette, Wilson, etc -- and it's a bit early for the next tier of players who stand no chance of sniffing Aiyuk replacement levels of production. If we're moving off of Aiyuk, we do so knowing the offensive output of the passing game will take a hit. Don't over react and reach on an inadequate replacement for Aiyuk. Instead, maximize the roster in other more impactful areas. Baker and Coker have as much upside as any of those tier 3 guys. Of course, time will tell. Maybe someone good ends up being there for us.

I like Guerrendo, but I see way too many holes, current or within the next year or two, to justify a RB in the top 4 rounds. Mason and Mitchell have already proven they are good enough to give CMC time off. It's just a matter of if Shanny wants to. With no Aiyuk, I'd expect the team to lean even heavier on CMC, for better or worse.

Jaheim Bell seems to be a zone favorite, for good reason; he's a nice player. That said, I feel everyone is seeing "hmmm, undersized TE" and automatically thinking "convert him to FB! Juice replacement!" Bell is not a FB. I comp him to Jordan Reed. Everyone is looking for a TE, not quite good enough to stick there, that can play FB. Juice is a FB, good enough to play TE.

Only wr I would take at 63 is ja'lynn Polk from Washington. Thanks for the feedback

Apr 8, 2024 at 1:03 PM

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Cooper is one of my favorite prospects. I think folks are sleeping on him

Apr 8, 2024 at 1:39 PM

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Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Cooper is one of my favorite prospects. I think folks are sleeping on him

LBs aren't the sexy pick, but we have been so dependent on elite LB play and he helps us to try and keep the trend alive.

Apr 8, 2024 at 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
LBs aren't the sexy pick, but we have been so dependent on elite LB play and he helps us to try and keep the trend alive.

im worried seattle will trade back and select him. perfect fit in their new defense.

Apr 11, 2024 at 2:28 PM

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I really don't want to trade Brandon but option two in my opinion is the only one that gets us over the hump that makes our offensive line elite. And I don't think any defensive lineman in this draft is going to be more than a rotational piece because of how solid we are at defensive line and that's across-the-board I don't think anyone's gonna be Pushing Leonard Floyd to the bench

Apr 11, 2024 at 2:32 PM

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Originally posted by fan49:
I really don't want to trade Brandon but option two in my opinion is the only one that gets us over the hump that makes our offensive line elite. And I don't think any defensive lineman in this draft is going to be more than a rotational piece because of how solid we are at defensive line and that's across-the-board I don't think anyone's gonna be Pushing Leonard Floyd to the bench

I agree, Leonard Floyd is the guy this year. I'd look to draft a guy that can break the rotation this year, and then be relied upon to be "the guy" within their rookie contract. I think EDGE thins out very quickly this year, and even more so if you want a guy who you can leave in on run dowDowns.

Personally, I believe our team is already good enough to get over the hump as currently constructed. Option 1 is to create more depth at key positions, position our selves well to insulate future losses, and potentially upgrade day 1 at specific positions. Option 2 is take a small step back this year in anticipation of rebuilding around an expensive QB contract.

[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 11, 2024 at 2:34 PM ]

Apr 23, 2024 at 9:07 PM

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Lynch: *smirks* Hey Trent, its John. I know you said you'd do 17 and a 3rd for Aiyuk if Brian Thomas Jr wasn't there for ya, and I saw Bills just traded up to take him. Listen *winks at Shanahan, nods and smiles at Jed*, I can't do Aiyuk, but I'll cut you a deal. I can do Deebo for ya, and I'll even let you keep your 3rd.

R1P17 Troy Fautanu, RT

Lynch: Adam, my boy! How you handling the pressure?! Congrats on Jaden! Hey, imma do you one last solid alright? We already got our tackle so imma let you come up and grab one if you let us move up in the 3rd.

R2P36 Keon Coleman, WR
R2P63 Max Melton, CB
R3P78 Dominick Puni, RG
R4P124 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S
R4P132 Hunter Nourzad, C
R4P135 Brandon Coleman, LG/LT
R5P176 Jalen Coker, WR
R6P211 Evan Anderson, NT
R6P215 Jordan Magee, LB
R7P251 Bo Richter, EDGE

Apr 26, 2024 at 8:50 AM

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Update after day 1

2 Dominick Puni, OL
3 Andru Phillips, CB
4 Hunter Nourzad, OL
4 Christian Jones, OL
4 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S
5 Erik All, TE
6 Jordan Magee, LB
6 Tyrone Tracy, RB
7 Evan Anderson, NT

Apr 27, 2024 at 5:08 PM

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My favorite prospects so I can track their careers:

Troy Fautanu, OL
Jackson Powers-Johnson , IOL
Amarius Mims, OT
Dominick Puni, IOL
Hunter Nourzad, IOL
Max Melton, CB
Renardo Green, CB
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S
Marshawn Kneeland, DE
Edgerrin Cooper, LB
Jalen Coker, WR