Rate our 2009 Draft.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by scopur49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If we would've addressed our O-line instead of drafting McKillop I would've gave our draft an A. I like McKillop, but I think our O-line was more of a concern.

In terms of addressing our O-line, if we went with a tackle we'd be looking at the 5th or 6th best one in the draft which would've given us, for all intents and purposes, another Chilo Rachel. I don't think there was a way to improve the position without trading back up into the first round and getting Oher and something tells me that would've been difficult.

I agree the O-line is a concern but consider also the change in offensive scheme Sing is going with which should put less pressure on the current O-line and the potential next year to get someone much better who could truly solidify the group, rather than a stop-gap that would add depth but likely not much more.

True, but there were a lot of OT's worth taking a chance on and developing:

Xavier Fulton
Garrett Reynolds
Fenuki Tupou
Jamon Meredith
Duke Robinson
Herman Johnson

I feel in order to keep continuity with an O-line you should always have someone waiting in the wings ready to step up.

I think Boone is just as good as anyone of these guys and he's UDFA.

Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

yeah i understand, but it's just funny that none of our rookies helped us out all all this season other than crabtree who joined midway.

To me, teams have to be primarily graded on their first three rounds. Few late rounders amount to much in the league, even as role players, so the impact guys have to count.

So, I graded this draft a B, since Crabtree looks like a really solid pick, and the Niners were able to parley the second rounder for a first this year (looks like a top 8-12 pick).

At the same time, this was a no-brainer for Scot and company. They could not have passed on Crabtree, and it would have been silly to pass on picking up a first rounder for their second rounder last year.

My love of the draft begins to pick up from the third round until the end. And, that is where the draft begins to fall apart at that point, and I don't see one player who will amount to anything in this league from Coffee through the LSU twosome. My favorite of the group is McKillop, but he plays the Ted, which is about the least significant position on the field for the team in terms of draft value.

The Coffee pick was a complete disaster. We have to get out of the habit of throwing our 3rd rounders away. Coffee, Smith, Hill, Williams. It is a mess. The only third rounder really amounting to much (to me, McDonald and Snyder are marginal players) is Gore, and that was five drafts ago.

[ Edited by MadDog49er on Dec 7, 2009 at 14:46:13 ]

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

yeah i understand, but it's just funny that none of our rookies helped us out all all this season other than crabtree who joined midway.

McKillop wont start over Spikes and is learning (remember he had issues with coverage)
RJF is waaay to raw
Coffee couldn't do any more then Gore with our current O line
Pascoe was a waste
Davis is depth at QB
Taylor has played on ST so you can count that has contributing a little

Remember with out a 2nd and 4th the draft class looks weaker

Could have had Vollmer with that 2nd pick, but again, getting a top 10 pick for a pick in the 30s is a pretty good deal, unless you screw it up. Other than Crabs, this draft shows little promise.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

yeah i understand, but it's just funny that none of our rookies helped us out all all this season other than crabtree who joined midway.

McKillop wont start over Spikes and is learning (remember he had issues with coverage)
RJF is waaay to raw
Coffee couldn't do any more then Gore with our current O line
Pascoe was a waste
Davis is depth at QB
Taylor has played on ST so you can count that has contributing a little

Remember with out a 2nd and 4th the draft class looks weaker

now we must wait another 2-3 seasons for them to produce.

this isn't much different from last years draft:

-Kentwan Balmer
-Chilo Rachal
-Reggie Smith
-Cody Wallace
-Josh Morgan
-Larry Grant

Drafted a future #1 and depth

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

yeah i understand, but it's just funny that none of our rookies helped us out all all this season other than crabtree who joined midway.

McKillop wont start over Spikes and is learning (remember he had issues with coverage)
RJF is waaay to raw
Coffee couldn't do any more then Gore with our current O line
Pascoe was a waste
Davis is depth at QB
Taylor has played on ST so you can count that has contributing a little

Remember with out a 2nd and 4th the draft class looks weaker

now we must wait another 2-3 seasons for them to produce.

this isn't much different from last years draft:

-Kentwan Balmer
-Chilo Rachal
-Reggie Smith
-Cody Wallace
-Josh Morgan
-Larry Grant

Drafted a future #1 and depth

Technically
Rachal is a starter
Balmer is a situational player
Smith has been injured all year
Morgan is a starter
Grant was stolen
Wallace......no idea where he's at with talent

Even if you did think Coffee was good, he still doesn't fit what this offense seems best at, which is working out of spread formations. BAD pick.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

yeah i understand, but it's just funny that none of our rookies helped us out all all this season other than crabtree who joined midway.

McKillop wont start over Spikes and is learning (remember he had issues with coverage)
RJF is waaay to raw
Coffee couldn't do any more then Gore with our current O line
Pascoe was a waste
Davis is depth at QB
Taylor has played on ST so you can count that has contributing a little

Remember with out a 2nd and 4th the draft class looks weaker

now we must wait another 2-3 seasons for them to produce.

this isn't much different from last years draft:

-Kentwan Balmer
-Chilo Rachal
-Reggie Smith
-Cody Wallace
-Josh Morgan
-Larry Grant

Drafted a future #1 and depth

Technically
-Rachal is a starter (job in jeopardy;hasn't stepped it up)
-Balmer is a situational player (along with ray mac and evans;hasn't stepped it up)
-Smith has been injured all year (injury prone in his first 2 seasons;hasn't amounted to anything)
-Morgan is a starter (solid player but hasn't had a good year; nothing more than a #2)
-Grant was stolen
Wallace......no idea where he's at with talent

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Our draft didn't do s**t for us this season

We got depth in a lot of places and got the best WR hands down.

yeah we got the best wide receiver that joined midway through the season and solid depth, but they haven't helped out much. wilhelm started over mckillop, coffee disappeared off the face of the earth, and after that it's all depth that didn't produce either.

"You build through the draft".......all should contribute in a year or two.

yeah i understand, but it's just funny that none of our rookies helped us out all all this season other than crabtree who joined midway.

McKillop wont start over Spikes and is learning (remember he had issues with coverage)
RJF is waaay to raw
Coffee couldn't do any more then Gore with our current O line
Pascoe was a waste
Davis is depth at QB
Taylor has played on ST so you can count that has contributing a little

Remember with out a 2nd and 4th the draft class looks weaker

now we must wait another 2-3 seasons for them to produce.

this isn't much different from last years draft:

-Kentwan Balmer
-Chilo Rachal
-Reggie Smith
-Cody Wallace
-Josh Morgan
-Larry Grant

Drafted a future #1 and depth

Technically
-Rachal is a starter (job in jeopardy;hasn't stepped it up)
-Balmer is a situational player (along with ray mac and evans;hasn't stepped it up)
-Smith has been injured all year (injury prone in his first 2 seasons;hasn't amounted to anything)
-Morgan is a starter (solid player but hasn't had a good year; nothing more than a #2)
-Grant was stolen
Wallace......no idea where he's at with talent

Rachal I agree with you
Balmer is behind Franklin....nobody will start ahead of him
Smith wasn't injured last year, he was incorrectly placed at CB and didn't play
Morgan for a 6th round pick has been better then most young WR's