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Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
Statements like 1) not even close and 2) CJ by far, are not accurate. Given his injury, we don't have a forty time on Crabtree. And yes franchises do make decisions on 40 times: see the Raiders and DHB. Had Crabtree run a 4.4 forty he would have been the second player taken right behnd Stafford same as CJ. Crabtree was a much more consistent WR in college than Johnson. In the same draft, CJ goes first, but Crabtree would be right behind him with a solid 40.
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
Bigger yes, but faster we don't know and no matter what Crabtree was the better college player 10 out of 10 times. Not even close is an inacurrate statement since we don't have a forty time for Crabtree. Sure CJ ran 4.35 at the combine, but with training, Crabtree may have put up a number close to that. Had he put up 4.4 he may have been drafted ahead of CJ based on production in college. CJ was not even close to MC's production.
And BTW, as an aside nothing to do with the question above Fitzgerald is smaller and slower than CJ and he is better than CJ 10 out of 10 times. Same as Rice speed doesn't get it done.
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:Originally posted by Gore_21:
Calivn Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
Michael Crabtree
Roy Williams
Would this be accurate?
Nah, you can't put Crabtree ahead of a guy who made the probowl in Williams without ever playing a down in the NFL. Fitzgerald has played way way better than CJ and taken his team to the superbowl. AJ is and has been more consistant than CJ in his career. CJ has had one reasonable year. Does he have potential to top the list? Sure but not yet. So for me it's
LF
AJ
CJ
RW
MC
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
Bigger yes, but faster we don't know and no matter what Crabtree was the better college player 10 out of 10 times. Not even close is an inacurrate statement since we don't have a forty time for Crabtree. Sure CJ ran 4.35 at the combine, but with training, Crabtree may have put up a number close to that. Had he put up 4.4 he may have been drafted ahead of CJ based on production in college. CJ was not even close to MC's production.
And BTW, as an aside nothing to do with the question above Fitzgerald is smaller and slower than CJ and he is better than CJ 10 out of 10 times. Same as Rice speed doesn't get it done.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Not close. Johnson by a mile.
P.S. Can I add that on draft day, I said that if the Raiders drafted Russell, they would live to regret the pick. Johnson was clearly the best prospect in the draft, even a better prospect than A. Peterson, who has been phenomenal.
So, the Raiders could have had a combination of Johnson and Crabtree. Instead, they have Russell and Heyward-Bey.
Way to go, Al Davis. Brilliant!!!!
Originally posted by jnew62:
CRABTREE WASN'T EVEN THE FIRST WR TAKEN THIS YEAR!!!!
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:Originally posted by Gore_21:
Calivn Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
Michael Crabtree
Roy Williams
Would this be accurate?
Nah, you can't put Crabtree ahead of a guy who made the probowl in Williams without ever playing a down in the NFL. Fitzgerald has played way way better than CJ and taken his team to the superbowl. AJ is and has been more consistant than CJ in his career. CJ has had one reasonable year. Does he have potential to top the list? Sure but not yet. So for me it's
LF
AJ
CJ
RW
MC
Originally posted by WillisWillKilYou:Originally posted by jnew62:
CRABTREE WASN'T EVEN THE FIRST WR TAKEN THIS YEAR!!!!
he was still the best receiver in this years draft
Originally posted by dhp318:
Calvin Johnson would've been picked over any other receiver, past, present, and future.