Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:Originally posted by mayo63:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:Originally posted by mayo63:
Glen Coffee is a bust.
Ok, Coffee is so solid we're not even thinking of taking a Rb in the draft.
Did I say any of that??? I'm just not as ignorant about football as you are to call someone a bust after their ROOKIE season. Get a clue.
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49ers awful 3rd round draft picks since 2000.
Jan 6, 2010 at 9:08 AM
- redrathman
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Jan 6, 2010 at 9:27 AM
- maximill15
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FRANK GORE makes up for all these picks!
Jan 6, 2010 at 10:06 AM
- redrathman
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I love how the original poster conveniently omitted Frank Gore, Adam Snyder and Jason Hill and Ray McDonald from this discussion. All are still on the active roster and contributed in some form during the 2009 season.
To hammer the point home as to how useless this thread is, I'll provide everyone with the New England Patriots' third round draft picks since 2000.
2000 - J.R. Redmond (Out of Football)
2001 - Brock Williams (Out of Football)
2002 - None
2003 - None
2004 - Guss Scott (Out of Football)
2005 - Ellis Hobbs and Nick Kaczur
2006 - David Thomas
2007 - None
2008 - Shawn Crable and Kevin O'Connell
Of the eight players listed above, only two (Kaczur and Crable) are on the Patriots' active roster. Of those two, only Kaczur has produced (Crable has been injured for two seasons). Hobbs has been injury prone, Thomas is a backup tight end and O'Connell is a third string Quarterback.
To hammer the point home as to how useless this thread is, I'll provide everyone with the New England Patriots' third round draft picks since 2000.
2000 - J.R. Redmond (Out of Football)
2001 - Brock Williams (Out of Football)
2002 - None
2003 - None
2004 - Guss Scott (Out of Football)
2005 - Ellis Hobbs and Nick Kaczur
2006 - David Thomas
2007 - None
2008 - Shawn Crable and Kevin O'Connell
Of the eight players listed above, only two (Kaczur and Crable) are on the Patriots' active roster. Of those two, only Kaczur has produced (Crable has been injured for two seasons). Hobbs has been injury prone, Thomas is a backup tight end and O'Connell is a third string Quarterback.
Jan 6, 2010 at 10:13 AM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by lamontb:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by genz22:
2000/ Gio Carmazzi QB
2001/ Kevan Barlow RB
2002/ Saleem Rasheed ILB
2003/ Andrew Williams DE
2004/ Derrick Hamilton WR
2006/ Brandon Williams WR
2008/ Reggie Smith CB/S
If the Niners are going to make 3rd round picks like this just trade the pick....
Hopefully this trend doesnt continue!
Surely Frank Gore makes up for the failures?
Nothing can make up for that Brandon Williams pick especially since Brandon Marshall was setting right there. Was 07 the year they lost a pick for the tamepring?
2nd and 3rd for the #22 (manny lawson)
I almost forgot we gave up that for Manny.
Jan 6, 2010 at 10:29 AM
- genz22
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I did not include Snyder because I think he has value as a backup.
Jan 6, 2010 at 10:52 AM
- TheFunkyChicken
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Wasn't Ulbrich a 3rd round pick? That would have been in 98 or 99 tho.
Jan 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM
- Karma
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I don't know if many of you remeber, but Hamilton was a very exciting prospect until he blew out both of his knees. I wouldn't call that a bad pick, just bad luck.
Jan 6, 2010 at 12:57 PM
- j3xperience
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well im sure everyone has a bad run of picks. but you need to look at who was drafting them as well.
wasnt donahue drafting till 04? pre mike nolan? he was HORRIBLE at the draft all together.
barlow wasnt a bust, he did extremely well as a back up running back and when he got his shot he blew it. a bust would have hype and died. saleem rasheed was a good backup 3rd lb. hamilton had bad luck but was a prospect. you cant say were horrible because you decide to put the people that didnt have NFL careers. the NFL is hit and miss. 1st rounders and 7th rounders all bust or boom, its what the individual does with it. you cant have a joe montana or a frank gore every year, teams take risks on players and some of them dont pan out. thats football. not everyone your favorite team drafts will become a HOF.
so what youre saying is that we should just trade out of the 3rd round year after year because we "missed" on 7 of 9 prospects? if you were a raiders fan you would just trade away all draft picks because they have not had a good draft since al went crazy.
this thread is trivial because its not 1 era of a GM but a slew of them as well as a plethora of coaches who always want people to draft to their style. if this was all McCloughan i could see you making a point but this was at least 2 gms and 4 coachs.
wasnt donahue drafting till 04? pre mike nolan? he was HORRIBLE at the draft all together.
barlow wasnt a bust, he did extremely well as a back up running back and when he got his shot he blew it. a bust would have hype and died. saleem rasheed was a good backup 3rd lb. hamilton had bad luck but was a prospect. you cant say were horrible because you decide to put the people that didnt have NFL careers. the NFL is hit and miss. 1st rounders and 7th rounders all bust or boom, its what the individual does with it. you cant have a joe montana or a frank gore every year, teams take risks on players and some of them dont pan out. thats football. not everyone your favorite team drafts will become a HOF.
so what youre saying is that we should just trade out of the 3rd round year after year because we "missed" on 7 of 9 prospects? if you were a raiders fan you would just trade away all draft picks because they have not had a good draft since al went crazy.
this thread is trivial because its not 1 era of a GM but a slew of them as well as a plethora of coaches who always want people to draft to their style. if this was all McCloughan i could see you making a point but this was at least 2 gms and 4 coachs.
Jan 6, 2010 at 1:20 PM
- MaliCali
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lol terrible 3rd round list is terrible...
Jason Hill is also missing.
But Hill and Reggie Smith have barely gotten the chance to play...the latter being even more disapointing considering he actually looked really good against starters in the preseason..and we all know that almost whenever Hill is given a shot, he makes the best of it..
Jason Hill is also missing.
But Hill and Reggie Smith have barely gotten the chance to play...the latter being even more disapointing considering he actually looked really good against starters in the preseason..and we all know that almost whenever Hill is given a shot, he makes the best of it..
Jan 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM
- SanDiego49er
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I wouldn't call Reggie Smith awful.
3rd round picks are not a guarantee. You miss on some of those if you look around the league.
3rd round picks are not a guarantee. You miss on some of those if you look around the league.
Jan 6, 2010 at 2:38 PM
- fandemonium
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Originally posted by redrathman:
I love how the original poster conveniently omitted Frank Gore, Adam Snyder and Jason Hill and Ray McDonald from this discussion. All are still on the active roster and contributed in some form during the 2009 season.
To hammer the point home as to how useless this thread is, I'll provide everyone with the New England Patriots' third round draft picks since 2000.
2000 - J.R. Redmond (Out of Football)
2001 - Brock Williams (Out of Football)
2002 - None
2003 - None
2004 - Guss Scott (Out of Football)
2005 - Ellis Hobbs and Nick Kaczur
2006 - David Thomas
2007 - None
2008 - Shawn Crable and Kevin O'Connell
Of the eight players listed above, only two (Kaczur and Crable) are on the Patriots' active roster. Of those two, only Kaczur has produced (Crable has been injured for two seasons). Hobbs has been injury prone, Thomas is a backup tight end and O'Connell is a third string Quarterback.
Ah - perspective.
Jan 6, 2010 at 2:47 PM
- DaveWilcox
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Maybe we should always trade away our 3rd rounders so we don't have to worry about it anymore.
Jan 6, 2010 at 2:49 PM
- 49erman5692
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what about Jason HIll 3rd round 07
Jan 6, 2010 at 2:53 PM
- PA9erFaithful
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Originally posted by redrathman:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:Originally posted by mayo63:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:Originally posted by mayo63:
Glen Coffee is a bust.
Ok, Coffee is so solid we're not even thinking of taking a Rb in the draft.
Did I say any of that??? I'm just not as ignorant about football as you are to call someone a bust after their ROOKIE season. Get a clue.
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Jan 6, 2010 at 2:55 PM
- hondakillerzx
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i think Reggie will be fine, they played around with his position too much, he looked good at the safety spot to me in the preseason. he's still very young, if he gets a shot he'll do fine. coffee is a rookie!!! give the guy a break.