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mayo49
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I wouldn't mind this happening, though I'd love to get both Williams and Iupati.
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Great Blue North Draft Report
2010 1ST-ROUND PROJECTION
January 8, 2010
*Denotes underclssman
#Team Player POS School
1 St. Louis Ndamukomg Suh DT Nebraska
2 Detroit *Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma
3 Tampa Bay *Eric Berry SS Tennessee
4 Washington *Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame
5 Kansas City *Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State
6 Seattle *Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
7 Cleveland *Carlos Dunlap DE Florida
8 Oakland *Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech
9 Buffalo Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State
10 Denver (from Chicago) *Anthony Davis OT Rutgers
11 Jacksonville *Joe Haden CB Florida
12 Miami *Rolando McClain LB Alabama
13 San Francisco (from Carolina) Trent Williams OT Oklahoma
14 Seattle (from Denver) *Brian Bulaga OT Iowa
15 New York Giants Taylor Mays FS Southern California
16 Tennessee *Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida
17 San Francisco Sergio Kindle LB Texas
18 Pittsburgh Mike Iupati OG Idaho
19 Atlanta *Earl Thomas DB Texas
20 Houston C.J. Spiller RB Clemson
21 New York Jets *Damian Williams WR Southern California
22 Baltimore *Golden Tate WR Notre Dame
23 Arizona Brandon Spikes LB Florida
24 Cincinnati *Dezmon Briscoe WR Kansas
25 New England *Arrelous Benn WR Illinois
26 Green Bay Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
27 Philadelphia *Greg Jones LB Michigan State
28 Dallas *Brian Price DE UCLA
29 Minnesota *Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
30 San Diego *Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
31 New Orleans Greg Hardy DE Mississippi
32 Indianapolis *Navorro Bowman LB Penn State
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I agree. Either Iupati or Spiller in this scenerio works better for me.
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Originally posted by ishkabibel:
I agree. Either Iupati or Spiller in this scenerio works better for me.
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Nuns
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I don't know if it's his number, but Kindle looks like a safety playing LB. I'd like to see his combine ht/wt, because he looked small out there.
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mayo49
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Originally posted by Nuns:
I don't know if it's his number, but Kindle looks like a safety playing LB. I'd like to see his combine ht/wt, because he looked small out there.
No, he's got good size, 6'4", 255 lbs. He's a prototype 3-4 OLB prospect.
[ Edited by mayo63 on Jan 8, 2010 at 08:44:00 ]
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a few quick observations on this mock...
I would rather see Iupati than Kindle with our 1B pick.
I also can't see Detroit not draft one of the OT's with the 2nd pick, sure, they could use McKoy but they really need to Keep Stafford healthy. I see them taking the top ratetd OT with this pick.
The Seattle picks are right on the money, addresses to key needs without overdrafting or reaching.
JAX, needs pass rush in the worst way, they had like 15 sacks for the season. I know Haden is a local guy and all, but they need to bring some heat to opposing QBs. They can draft Tebow in the 2nd to fill some empty seats.
Cleveland,s selection of Dunlap is questionable given the character concerns. I can't see Holmgren signing off on this pick to start his regime.
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IMO Kindle is a bit in the Taylor Mays category.....physical specimen, but questionable intangibles. In other words, he's really raw. Mays is good, but raw in the sense of the questionable angles he takes. I'd take Earl Thomas over Kindle, but I agree if we get a shot at Williams and Iupati it'd be the way to go. Unfortunately, I can't see the Niners taking a guard in mid first round.
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Originally posted by JDeezy:
IMO Kindle is a bit in the Taylor Mays category.....physical specimen, but questionable intangibles. In other words, he's really raw. Mays is good, but raw in the sense of the questionable angles he takes. I'd take Earl Thomas over Kindle, but I agree if we get a shot at Williams and Iupati it'd be the way to go. Unfortunately, I can't see the Niners taking a guard in mid first round.
Everyone says that about guards.. But if we could get one in the mold of a Hutchinson, Faneca or Larry Allen in his prime it would be a pick well spent.. If Iupati is as good a OG prospect as somne think, I wouldn't want to be the guy (scotty) that would have to explain why we took Kindle when Iupati was still on the board.
I say let's devote this draft for establishing an OL that can be in place for 5-10 years. We won't regret it if we get it right.
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mayo49
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Originally posted by JDeezy:
IMO Kindle is a bit in the Taylor Mays category.....physical specimen, but questionable intangibles. In other words, he's really raw. Mays is good, but raw in the sense of the questionable angles he takes. I'd take Earl Thomas over Kindle, but I agree if we get a shot at Williams and Iupati it'd be the way to go. Unfortunately, I can't see the Niners taking a guard in mid first round.
Yeah, it might be a bit of overkill to take 2 OL, but I'd still love a Spiller, Bryant, Kindle combination to go with an OT with the first two picks.
[ Edited by mayo63 on Jan 8, 2010 at 11:34:46 ]
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JDeezy
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Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
IMO Kindle is a bit in the Taylor Mays category.....physical specimen, but questionable intangibles. In other words, he's really raw. Mays is good, but raw in the sense of the questionable angles he takes. I'd take Earl Thomas over Kindle, but I agree if we get a shot at Williams and Iupati it'd be the way to go. Unfortunately, I can't see the Niners taking a guard in mid first round.
Everyone says that about guards.. But if we could get one in the mold of a Hutchinson, Faneca or Larry Allen in his prime it would be a pick well spent.. If Iupati is as good a OG prospect as somne think, I wouldn't want to be the guy (scotty) that would have to explain why we took Kindle when Iupati was still on the board.
I say let's devote this draft for establishing an OL that can be in place for 5-10 years. We won't regret it if we get it right.
I believe it would make sense, but i'm talking in terms of Scotty Mac. He's not going to take Iupati and admit that he's already found a better player than his second round pick of 2 years ago in Rachal, when his first rounder Balmer has struggled also. He's fighting for his job and he probably won't be willing to expose his flaws. Barrows also said yesterday that he can't see them taking a guard in round one. IMO it makes complete sense to address O Line with both first rounders, but I can't see our decision makers doing that.
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The team should not even worry about drafting for defense until round 4 at the earliest unless somebody falls into there laps. 90% of the teams problems start with the offense. The defensive numbers will all improve with a better offense that actually allows the defense off the field for longer then 3 downs and a punt. 2 Olineman in the first round would not be crazy at all if the team can still get a decent punt returner in the second round. The niners are plane lucky that Barry Sims held his own on the left side and didnt get Alex killed this year. 2 OT's in the first would not be a bad idea if they are the BPA on the niners board.
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Originally posted by JDeezy:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
IMO Kindle is a bit in the Taylor Mays category.....physical specimen, but questionable intangibles. In other words, he's really raw. Mays is good, but raw in the sense of the questionable angles he takes. I'd take Earl Thomas over Kindle, but I agree if we get a shot at Williams and Iupati it'd be the way to go. Unfortunately, I can't see the Niners taking a guard in mid first round.
Everyone says that about guards.. But if we could get one in the mold of a Hutchinson, Faneca or Larry Allen in his prime it would be a pick well spent.. If Iupati is as good a OG prospect as somne think, I wouldn't want to be the guy (scotty) that would have to explain why we took Kindle when Iupati was still on the board.
I say let's devote this draft for establishing an OL that can be in place for 5-10 years. We won't regret it if we get it right.
I believe it would make sense, but i'm talking in terms of Scotty Mac. He's not going to take Iupati and admit that he's already found a better player than his second round pick of 2 years ago in Rachal, when his first rounder Balmer has struggled also. He's fighting for his job and he probably won't be willing to expose his flaws. Barrows also said yesterday that he can't see them taking a guard in round one. IMO it makes complete sense to address O Line with both first rounders, but I can't see our decision makers doing that.
anything makes sense when you have as many holes as we do. For all the talk of drafting O-linemen, the truth is that this draft is top heavy on defense and it wouldn't surprise me that if the top offensive linemen are gone that we draft defense.
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Kindle is raw. At 17 we are better off with a T(if not at 13) or an Offensive playmaker.
I don't think we have to address the defense until the second round.
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Kindle over Iupati is asinine.
Yet, I strangely think Scot would be stupid enough to do such a thing.
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You thinkin 3rd round on Kindle OTC?