What will the Rams do with the #1 overall pick ?

Why does everyone love Jimmy Clausen? Am I the only one who noticed Notre Dame not make ANY progress with him at QB?

The Rams should have traded for Tyler Thipgen. He's a player, and just has a ton of upside. Maybe a little inconsistent. But they badly need OL help in any way they can get. Look at what happened to Cutler without it...

Originally posted by Ether:
Why does everyone love Jimmy Clausen? Am I the only one who noticed Notre Dame not make ANY progress with him at QB?

As a ND fan who has seen every game snap he took in South Bend, I'd have to ask what exactly you were seeing ? He took major strides forward in each of his 3 years. He went from looking like hot garbage to looking like a legit top 5 prospect in that span. ND got better offensively as a whole especially this year but never got better in the W-L column due to very poor defensive play.

I suggest you go back and re-watch Clausen game tapes.

Originally posted by valrod33:
Null is not the answer at Qb, Bulger has become injury prone, i think they go QB and draft Clausen

+1

Have to get a franchise QB.

Originally posted by Ether:
Why does everyone love Jimmy Clausen? Am I the only one who noticed Notre Dame not make ANY progress with him at QB?

Did you also happen to notice that their defense has been AWFUL (especially this season)? You gonna blame that on Clausen?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The Rams should have traded for Tyler Thipgen. He's a player, and just has a ton of upside. Maybe a little inconsistent. But they badly need OL help in any way they can get. Look at what happened to Cutler without it...

Like I said if somehow Iupati falls to 33 they HAVE to pull the trigger, if not they should look long and hard at the top OT's available at 33 as they need RT as well (if FA yields nothing).

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The Rams should have traded for Tyler Thipgen. He's a player, and just has a ton of upside. Maybe a little inconsistent. But they badly need OL help in any way they can get. Look at what happened to Cutler without it...

Like I said if somehow Iupati falls to 33 they HAVE to pull the trigger, if not they should look long and hard at the top OT's available at 33 as they need RT as well (if FA yields nothing).

Didn't they draft Jason Smith?

Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The Rams should have traded for Tyler Thipgen. He's a player, and just has a ton of upside. Maybe a little inconsistent. But they badly need OL help in any way they can get. Look at what happened to Cutler without it...

Like I said if somehow Iupati falls to 33 they HAVE to pull the trigger, if not they should look long and hard at the top OT's available at 33 as they need RT as well (if FA yields nothing).

Didn't they draft Jason Smith?

Yes, and they had him play RT as a rookie like we did with Staley, however he only suited for 8 games due to a knee injury and a concussion that kept him out a month (he couldn't gain medical clearance). They also signed Jason Brown, so that was 2 pieces of the puzzle, however they gave up 1 fewer sack than last year. The line was ravaged by injuries (and as 49ers fans we know what that's like), but early on when everyone was healthy they played much better.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by strickac:
Hopefully they take Suh. Bulger isn't the answer and Null is a big question mark. I'd much rather they had a stud DT than a franchise QB.

DTs don't win games for you. The Rams are a disaster on offense. If you shutdown Jackson, they can't win.

at first you say, they should take suh...then you say sth like "they need another weapon beside jackson"...now what do you want them to draft???

I didn't say they should take Suh, I said that I hope they take him. A franchise QB is more of a need for them than a DT. I hope they avoid drafting a QB and waist a few years on Null. That's just one less team to worry about in the division.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Suh easily. They can't afford not to. I think one of the "top" QBs will fall to the 2nd for them. Just look at the list. They might even get a guy by the third. See below:

1st-3rd round rated QBs:

Sam Bradford-1st round
Jimmy Clausen-1st round
Colt McCoy-Mid 2nd round
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow-1st round (yes i know)
Tony Pike
Dan LeFevour
Sean Canfield.

At least one of these will last to the third. Rams will take Suh.

Do you really trust Snead or Pike? I'm still betting on Bradford #1 overall. Once the combine starts up and he starts impressing people again, his name will sound a lot more attractive.

[ Edited by jreff22 on Jan 13, 2010 at 08:05:56 ]

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Suh easily. They can't afford not to. I think one of the "top" QBs will fall to the 2nd for them. Just look at the list. They might even get a guy by the third. See below:

1st-3rd round rated QBs:

Sam Bradford-1st round
Jimmy Clausen-1st round
Colt McCoy-Mid 2nd round
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow-1st round (yes i know)
Tony Pike
Dan LeFevour
Sean Canfield.

At least one of these will last to the third. Rams will take Suh.

Do you really trust Snead or Pike? I'm still betting on Bradford #1 overall. Once the combine starts up and he starts impressing people again, his name will sound a lot more attractive.

Isn't this the kid with shoulder problems like Alex Smith who he talked to over the season? Durability issues? I think so. I believe it will be similar to Crabtree if Bradford still smarts.

Also, doesn't Clausen also have some concerns? Question marks over to as close to a sure thing as possible?

Nope, it will be Suh.

You know, I do hope they draft Clausen or Bradford as it will take some time for them to develop and Suh will be in the NFC North with Detroit.

Eh, I should be cheering for Clausen or Bradford. I just feel like it will be Suh like OTC.

Bummer

Originally posted by ninertico:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Suh easily. They can't afford not to. I think one of the "top" QBs will fall to the 2nd for them. Just look at the list. They might even get a guy by the third. See below:

1st-3rd round rated QBs:

Sam Bradford-1st round
Jimmy Clausen-1st round
Colt McCoy-Mid 2nd round
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow-1st round (yes i know)
Tony Pike
Dan LeFevour
Sean Canfield.

At least one of these will last to the third. Rams will take Suh.

Do you really trust Snead or Pike? I'm still betting on Bradford #1 overall. Once the combine starts up and he starts impressing people again, his name will sound a lot more attractive.

Isn't this the kid with shoulder problems like Alex Smith who he talked to over the season? Durability issues? I think so. I believe it will be similar to Crabtree if Bradford still smarts.

Also, doesn't Clausen also have some concerns? Question marks over to as close to a sure thing as possible?

Nope, it will be Suh.

You know, I do hope they draft Clausen or Bradford as it will take some time for them to develop and Suh will be in the NFC North with Detroit.

Eh, I should be cheering for Clausen or Bradford. I just feel like it will be Suh like OTC.

Bummer

The more I think about it, the more I think Clausen or Bradford could be the pick via trade down with Tampa who hold 2 second rounders. Tampa would love to have Suh (consolation prize for losing out on the Haynesworth sweepstakes) and it's only chance would be by leapfrogging Detroit. St.Louis would then have 3 first day picks, which could be a big help towards filling the multiple holes they have.

Originally posted by ninertico:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Suh easily. They can't afford not to. I think one of the "top" QBs will fall to the 2nd for them. Just look at the list. They might even get a guy by the third. See below:

1st-3rd round rated QBs:

Sam Bradford-1st round
Jimmy Clausen-1st round
Colt McCoy-Mid 2nd round
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow-1st round (yes i know)
Tony Pike
Dan LeFevour
Sean Canfield.

At least one of these will last to the third. Rams will take Suh.

Do you really trust Snead or Pike? I'm still betting on Bradford #1 overall. Once the combine starts up and he starts impressing people again, his name will sound a lot more attractive.

Isn't this the kid with shoulder problems like Alex Smith who he talked to over the season? Durability issues? I think so. I believe it will be similar to Crabtree if Bradford still smarts.

Also, doesn't Clausen also have some concerns? Question marks over to as close to a sure thing as possible?

Nope, it will be Suh.

You know, I do hope they draft Clausen or Bradford as it will take some time for them to develop and Suh will be in the NFC North with Detroit.

Eh, I should be cheering for Clausen or Bradford. I just feel like it will be Suh like OTC.

Bummer

As far as I know this has been his only injury so far, serious for sure but it's only happened once. IF he's cleared 100% by all the doctors and has a very good combine he will be a hot commodity. The argument comes down to the future, is a franchise QB more important then a franchise DT?

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by ninertico:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Suh easily. They can't afford not to. I think one of the "top" QBs will fall to the 2nd for them. Just look at the list. They might even get a guy by the third. See below:

1st-3rd round rated QBs:

Sam Bradford-1st round
Jimmy Clausen-1st round
Colt McCoy-Mid 2nd round
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow-1st round (yes i know)
Tony Pike
Dan LeFevour
Sean Canfield.

At least one of these will last to the third. Rams will take Suh.

Do you really trust Snead or Pike? I'm still betting on Bradford #1 overall. Once the combine starts up and he starts impressing people again, his name will sound a lot more attractive.

Isn't this the kid with shoulder problems like Alex Smith who he talked to over the season? Durability issues? I think so. I believe it will be similar to Crabtree if Bradford still smarts.

Also, doesn't Clausen also have some concerns? Question marks over to as close to a sure thing as possible?

Nope, it will be Suh.

You know, I do hope they draft Clausen or Bradford as it will take some time for them to develop and Suh will be in the NFC North with Detroit.

Eh, I should be cheering for Clausen or Bradford. I just feel like it will be Suh like OTC.

Bummer

The more I think about it, the more I think Clausen or Bradford could be the pick via trade down with Tampa who hold 2 second rounders. Tampa would love to have Suh (consolation prize for losing out on the Haynesworth sweepstakes) and it's only chance would be by leapfrogging Detroit. St.Louis would then have 3 first day picks, which could be a big help towards filling the multiple holes they have.

The jump from #3 to #1 isn't that much:
Round 1
#1 3000
#2 2600
#3 2200
Round 2
#1 580
#2 560
#3 550

Are you referring to both round 1 and 2 as first day picks....? The schedule is different now, so I'm trying to clarify.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by ninertico:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Suh easily. They can't afford not to. I think one of the "top" QBs will fall to the 2nd for them. Just look at the list. They might even get a guy by the third. See below:

1st-3rd round rated QBs:

Sam Bradford-1st round
Jimmy Clausen-1st round
Colt McCoy-Mid 2nd round
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow-1st round (yes i know)
Tony Pike
Dan LeFevour
Sean Canfield.

At least one of these will last to the third. Rams will take Suh.

Do you really trust Snead or Pike? I'm still betting on Bradford #1 overall. Once the combine starts up and he starts impressing people again, his name will sound a lot more attractive.

Isn't this the kid with shoulder problems like Alex Smith who he talked to over the season? Durability issues? I think so. I believe it will be similar to Crabtree if Bradford still smarts.

Also, doesn't Clausen also have some concerns? Question marks over to as close to a sure thing as possible?

Nope, it will be Suh.

You know, I do hope they draft Clausen or Bradford as it will take some time for them to develop and Suh will be in the NFC North with Detroit.

Eh, I should be cheering for Clausen or Bradford. I just feel like it will be Suh like OTC.

Bummer

The more I think about it, the more I think Clausen or Bradford could be the pick via trade down with Tampa who hold 2 second rounders. Tampa would love to have Suh (consolation prize for losing out on the Haynesworth sweepstakes) and it's only chance would be by leapfrogging Detroit. St.Louis would then have 3 first day picks, which could be a big help towards filling the multiple holes they have.

The jump from #3 to #1 isn't that much:
Round 1
#1 3000
#2 2600
#3 2200
Round 2
#1 580
#2 560
#3 550

Are you referring to both round 1 and 2 as first day picks....? The schedule is different now, so I'm trying to clarify.

Yes and Tampa owns 3, 35 (worth 550 pints) & 42 (worth 480 points). Thus why I see it as a very realistic scenario and beneficial to both teams. Tampa would have to give up 3, one of the 2nds and something else (possibly a 2011 3rd round pick?)