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NC49erfan82
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i wouldn't be opposed to taking him at #30 but ONLY if we get some studs at WR in FA
this
if i had the choice between fleener and wright/sanu/jeffery
it would be one of the 3 WR all day with our current roster
Not on my watch. You can always find productive WR's out of the 1st round and even being undrafted (Doug Baldwin is prime example). Where we are picking there is nobody going to impact us right off the bat at WR. Fleener is a stud TE that has alot of attributes to bring to the table.
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Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i wouldn't be opposed to taking him at #30 but ONLY if we get some studs at WR in FA
this
if i had the choice between fleener and wright/sanu/jeffery
it would be one of the 3 WR all day with our current roster
Not on my watch. You can always find productive WR's out of the 1st round and even being undrafted (Doug Baldwin is prime example). Where we are picking there is nobody going to impact us right off the bat at WR. Fleener is a stud TE that has alot of attributes to bring to the table.
we can find an athlethic 3rd TE even further in the draft
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NC49erfan82
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i wouldn't be opposed to taking him at #30 but ONLY if we get some studs at WR in FA
this
if i had the choice between fleener and wright/sanu/jeffery
it would be one of the 3 WR all day with our current roster
Not on my watch. You can always find productive WR's out of the 1st round and even being undrafted (Doug Baldwin is prime example). Where we are picking there is nobody going to impact us right off the bat at WR. Fleener is a stud TE that has alot of attributes to bring to the table.
we can find an athlethic 3rd TE even further in the draft
One that is equal to Fleener as far as attributes are concerned? I dont think so. I am not downing your response in any means. Hell you could be right but odds are WR's now can be found as being productive in the later rounds just as the ones in 1st are drafted. All it takes is proper coaching (which I believe is what we have).
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Played for Harbaugh, know each other well, great rapport
TE-friendly offense
Harbaugh loves his TEs
Harbaughs running the team for awhile
Instant improvement in passing and running game
Versatile, fast, BIG
Will be a target in the redzone EVERY TIME
Will be there when we pick
Thinking this guy is going to be at the top of my 49ers draft board. I like it.
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NC49erfan82
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Originally posted by Genius1310:
Played for Harbaugh, know each other well, great rapport
TE-friendly offense
Harbaugh loves his TEs
Harbaughs running the team for awhile
Instant improvement in passing and running game
Versatile, fast, BIG
Will be a target in the redzone EVERY TIME
Will be there when we pick
Thinking this guy is going to be at the top of my 49ers draft board. I like it.
^ This
Not only that he is the BPA if he is still there by the time we pick.
[ Edited by NC49erfan82 on Feb 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM ]
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valrod33
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VD
Walker
Byham
Rueland
Those will be our TEs next year
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Interesting discussion. In all honesty, if he were there at 30, I'd take him over any receiver that is likely to be available. We have to remember, we are not in need of an elite talent at wide receiver. We only need an upgrade over Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ted Gtinn, and Bret Swain, which doesn't seem so hard to do, even outside of the first round. Picking a player like Fleener would allow us to use either Vernon Davis or Fleener as the weapon they are in the passing gameand still have a great extra blocker. I'm all on board, but probably want to watch a few more Stanford games (( only have two on tape, this year and last year's bowl games) to get an idea of what that offense would look like.
This instantly gives us a dominant weapon in the passing game. Unless we trade away our future to get a shot at Justin Blackmon, it isn't likely that we draft a receiver in the 1st round that will come in and immediately dominate.
At this point, where is Fleener slotted to go?
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Originally posted by valrod33:
VD
Fleener
Walker
Byham
Those will be our TEs next year
Fixed
[ Edited by Slash49 on Feb 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM ]
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Interesting discussion. In all honesty, if he were there at 30, I'd take him over any receiver that is likely to be available. We have to remember, we are not in need of an elite talent at wide receiver. We only need an upgrade over Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ted Gtinn, and Bret Swain, which doesn't seem so hard to do, even outside of the first round. Picking a player like Fleener would allow us to use either Vernon Davis or Fleener as the weapon they are in the passing gameand still have a great extra blocker. I'm all on board, but probably want to watch a few more Stanford games (( only have two on tape, this year and last year's bowl games) to get an idea of what that offense would look like.
This instantly gives us a dominant weapon in the passing game. Unless we trade away our future to get a shot at Justin Blackmon, it isn't likely that we draft a receiver in the 1st round that will come in and immediately dominate.
At this point, where is Fleener slotted to go?
Fleener's only real shot of being a 1st rounder would be to us with the 30th pick and maybe the Giants unless they like Dwayne Allen even more, if he passes both teams then i see him as a early to mid 2nd rounder
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NC49erfan82
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Originally posted by Slash49:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Interesting discussion. In all honesty, if he were there at 30, I'd take him over any receiver that is likely to be available. We have to remember, we are not in need of an elite talent at wide receiver. We only need an upgrade over Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ted Gtinn, and Bret Swain, which doesn't seem so hard to do, even outside of the first round. Picking a player like Fleener would allow us to use either Vernon Davis or Fleener as the weapon they are in the passing gameand still have a great extra blocker. I'm all on board, but probably want to watch a few more Stanford games (( only have two on tape, this year and last year's bowl games) to get an idea of what that offense would look like.
This instantly gives us a dominant weapon in the passing game. Unless we trade away our future to get a shot at Justin Blackmon, it isn't likely that we draft a receiver in the 1st round that will come in and immediately dominate.
At this point, where is Fleener slotted to go?
Fleener's only real shot of being a 1st rounder would be to us with the 30th pick and maybe the Giants unless they like Dwayne Allen even more, if he passes both teams then i see him as a early to mid 2nd rounder
Well say we do draft Fleener and run alot of 2 TE or multiple TE sets. Does that mean Bruce Miller gets the odd end of the stick?
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The team is not drafting Fleener unless Walker or Davis is injured and in no way ready for 2012.
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The team is not drafting Fleener unless Walker or Davis is injured and in no way ready for 2012.
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The team is not drafting Fleener unless Walker or Davis is injured and in no way ready for 2012.
Well if you look how we lost Walker after Seattle how bad our offense was out of rhythmhaving Peele in there you could notice a big difference. This team could possess something no team could do in the NFL. How can you cover possibly 3 Versatile TE's that have the up most capabitlity of blocking and receiving along with a legit #1 WR on the field at once? It is hard to tell what we are going to do at the LOS before the ball is snapped. Do I think we will draft Fleener? Probably not but we do not know what Trent or Jim has circled who they want on their draft board. He would be the BPA at 30 IMO that much.
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Originally posted by valrod33:
VD
Walker
Byham
Rueland
Those will be our TEs next year
Forgot about Byham. Dude showed soft hands when he played two seasons ago and I remember reading about how well he was doing in the offseason before getting injured. He can block and has decent hands. Let's see him play out.
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Anyone who thinks they're certain that we'll either draft or not draft Coby Fleener or any other player for that matter needs to get real. We are all amateurs here and none of us hAs any clue as to what's going to actually happen come draft day. so for those just saying "We will definitely not draft this player", how about you give your opinion on the guys game instead of making yourself look like a self righteous assholé with a value-less post.
On that note I am all for drafting Fleener if he's the BPA on the board when we pick. He is a very polished kid and could certainly being some more fire power to our offense while also providing us with favorable matchups in the run game. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised to see any move come draft day. I think we may be in for another trent baalke trade up if a WR he likes drops the to 15-25ish range.