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Chris Borland?
May 14, 2014 at 10:13 AM
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This guy looks legit. His play seems to be crafted from proper football fundamentals and the uncoachable instinct part of the game. His techniques and motor will likely make up for few points off his 40 time. He could very be one of those guys who REALLY kick it into high gear when the lights are on and the adrenaline is pumping . He wont be chasing down Wrs like P.Willie used to but I bet he surprises us with endurance and " fourth quarter speed"
May 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM
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A couple places I saw him listed as a potential IR resident with his shoulders. Seems a bit of a stretch with Bowman injured, but I could see some combination of Wilhoite, Moody, and even Brooks taking up the ILB snaps for the first half of the year.
May 14, 2014 at 10:49 AM
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Name reminds me of Al Borland.
May 14, 2014 at 11:56 AM
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Cool moment at 2:08 in this NFL Senior Bowl video where Mayock and others are discussing Borland. Jimmie Ward comes over and he and Borland share a quick discussion and laugh together. Now they're team mates!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000316207/article/wisconsins-chris-borland-compared-to-panthers-luke-kuechly
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000316207/article/wisconsins-chris-borland-compared-to-panthers-luke-kuechly
May 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM
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28" arms vs the 33" arms of Bowman ... think 5" EXTRA don't matter? Ask your girl :) The ability to reach, grab, and wrap are compromised with shorter arms, the ability to shock and shed is compromised with shorter arms ... but it's a good think ILBs don't need to do those things on most every play ... oh wait ... darn.
I love everything above the line ... the body below it though simply doesn't measure up.
I love everything above the line ... the body below it though simply doesn't measure up.
May 15, 2014 at 2:26 PM
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Originally posted by Scoots:28" arms vs the 33" arms of Bowman ... think 5" EXTRA don't matter? Ask your girl :) The ability to reach, grab, and wrap are compromised with shorter arms, the ability to shock and shed is compromised with shorter arms ... but it's a good think ILBs don't need to do those things on most every play ... oh wait ... darn.
I love everything above the line ... the body below it though simply doesn't measure up.
Borland's arms are 29 1/4" so it's 3 3/4" difference, but this does make a difference especially when Bowman is a much better athlete as well. I think Borland's instincts help offset some of his lack of speed, but Bowman is an instinctive player who also has speed and length. I don't think anyone expects Borland to be as good as Bowman, but hopefully our secondary helps make up for it. The offense should be improved as well.
May 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by Scoots:
28" arms vs the 33" arms of Bowman ... think 5" EXTRA don't matter? Ask your girl :) The ability to reach, grab, and wrap are compromised with shorter arms, the ability to shock and shed is compromised with shorter arms ... but it's a good think ILBs don't need to do those things on most every play ... oh wait ... darn.
I love everything above the line ... the body below it though simply doesn't measure up.
Borland's arms are 29 1/4" so it's 3 3/4" difference, but this does make a difference especially when Bowman is a much better athlete as well. I think Borland's instincts help offset some of his lack of speed, but Bowman is an instinctive player who also has speed and length. I don't think anyone expects Borland to be as good as Bowman, but hopefully our secondary helps make up for it. The offense should be improved as well.
His arm length really bothers me. His smarts and instincts are there. I'm actually happy we were able to get Skov, jsut in case and hope he is able to make the team. I havent seen much of Moody but I like what I saw from Skov at Stanford.
May 16, 2014 at 1:49 PM
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Originally posted by E-49er:
His arm length really bothers me. His smarts and instincts are there. I'm actually happy we were able to get Skov, jsut in case and hope he is able to make the team. I havent seen much of Moody but I like what I saw from Skov at Stanford.
Rather have a guy with Borland's arm length and unreal football instincts than a guy with 34" long arms that is unable to read what an offense is doing to save his life.
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May 16, 2014 at 1:57 PM
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Would the 49ers have drafted Borland over players like Kareem Martin, Philip Gaines, Donte Moncrief, Jaylen Watkins, and Bashaud Breeland if they KNEW Skov would sign with them as a UDFA?
May 16, 2014 at 2:48 PM
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Originally posted by Scoots:
Would the 49ers have drafted Borland over players like Kareem Martin, Philip Gaines, Donte Moncrief, Jaylen Watkins, and Bashaud Breeland if they KNEW Skov would sign with them as a UDFA?
Would the 49ers have had interest in any of those players to begin with?
May 16, 2014 at 3:16 PM
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That's always a fair question. I'd rather have had Martin or Moncrief along with Skov than Borland. But as always this time of year ... we will wait and see.
May 16, 2014 at 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by E-49er:
His arm length really bothers me. His smarts and instincts are there. I'm actually happy we were able to get Skov, jsut in case and hope he is able to make the team. I havent seen much of Moody but I like what I saw from Skov at Stanford.
Rather have a guy with Borland's arm length and unreal football instincts than a guy with 34" long arms that is unable to read what an offense is doing to save his life.
This is true. great Instincts are more important. but I was also curious about how he compared to guys like zach thomas, london fletcher, and sam mills in arm length , who were among the more successful shorter linebackers.I couldnt find anything regarding their arm length. I guess Ill just have to wait until August and see how he performs in the preseason.
[ Edited by E-49er on May 16, 2014 at 11:22 PM ]
May 17, 2014 at 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by fanmusclecars:
Name reminds me of Al Borland.
Its Al Borlands son actually.
May 17, 2014 at 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Rather have a guy with Borland's arm length and unreal football instincts than a guy with 34" long arms that is unable to read what an offense is doing to save his life.
Or you could just draft a guy with pretty good instincts and arms that are at least average length. The more I watch this guy the less I'm convinced he'll be able to succeed as a quality starter. Seems like the team drafted a guy they were sure could get on the field rather than someone with any upside to become a great player.
May 22, 2014 at 5:06 PM
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Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Rather have a guy with Borland's arm length and unreal football instincts than a guy with 34" long arms that is unable to read what an offense is doing to save his life.
Or you could just draft a guy with pretty good instincts and arms that are at least average length. The more I watch this guy the less I'm convinced he'll be able to succeed as a quality starter. Seems like the team drafted a guy they were sure could get on the field rather than someone with any upside to become a great player.
Haha people have been telling this kid that his whole life... Keep
Didnt work out too well for the past haters...