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Originally posted by Canadian9erfan:
If we went D in 1st round i would love D. Smith WR in the 2nd. Speed, speed, speed.

this. Don't see Baalke passing up on a top CB prospect if available at 15. But then again no one knows how "good" Baalke feels about current CB's on roster.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Originally posted by Canadian9erfan:
If we went D in 1st round i would love D. Smith WR in the 2nd. Speed, speed, speed.

this. Don't see Baalke passing up on a top CB prospect if available at 15. But then again no one knows how "good" Baalke feels about current CB's on roster.

This...it doesn't look like he was even trying to resign either Cox/Culliver which makes me believe he likes the young CBs.

Also you think he goes secondary in the 1st, three years in a row? Who knows lol.
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


There is ONE thing you still seem to be stuck in or on,Harbaugh is Gone and so is His Ultra-Conservative Offense,Hell even with a Big target(Randy Moss was 6'4') and HOW many redzone TDs did he get? you see it does not take a big target in the Redzone to get TDs,it takes a Competent OC and Offense to score TDs in the Redzone......Just Because you get a Big WR it does not automatically means you Hey we are gonna score TDs everytime.
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


There is ONE thing you still seem to be stuck in or on,Harbaugh is Gone and so is His Ultra-Conservative Offense,Hell even with a Big target(Randy Moss was 6'4') and HOW many redzone TDs did he get? you see it does not take a big target in the Redzone to get TDs,it takes a Competent OC and Offense to score TDs in the Redzone......Just Because you get a Big WR it does not automatically means you Hey we are gonna score TDs everytime.

Ok will find out this season what really is the problem the bad play calling or the play of our QB. Not sold on Geep but who knows he might surprise us all but last time i checked down in the red zone alot of those plays were orchestrated by none other the Geep. I still want a big body wide out.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


A big WR does not automatically fix that. There is also a growing number of bigger corners coming out college who can matchup better with bigger receivers.

Again : scheming, matchups, play design, play calling and execution is key to scoring TD's in the RZ.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


So do I VD isn't some big 6-6 TE but score a ton of red-zone TDs for us in the past... he get's open, that's all I'm looking for are players on offense that know how to get open on a consistent basis.... someone that can get open quickly will make Kap and our offensive line that much better.

If you want some big WR/TE red-zone threat then why not grab Darren Waller in the 5th-6th round? He is 6-6....I'd prefer a WR who is a complete player like Cooper.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


So do I VD isn't some big 6-6 TE but score a ton of red-zone TDs for us in the past... he get's open, that's all I'm looking for are players on offense that know how to get open on a consistent basis.... someone that can get open quickly will make Kap and our offensive line that much better.

If you want some big WR/TE red-zone threat then why not grab Darren Waller in the 5th-6th round? He is 6-6....I'd prefer a WR who is a complete player like Cooper.

I will say this n we can all agree here we can't afford to draft another AJ Junkins type of player. That just will set us back for yrs we have to hit the nail on the head which ever WR we do end up taking.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


So do I VD isn't some big 6-6 TE but score a ton of red-zone TDs for us in the past... he get's open, that's all I'm looking for are players on offense that know how to get open on a consistent basis.... someone that can get open quickly will make Kap and our offensive line that much better.

If you want some big WR/TE red-zone threat then why not grab Darren Waller in the 5th-6th round? He is 6-6....I'd prefer a WR who is a complete player like Cooper.

I will say this n we can all agree here we can't afford to draft another AJ Junkins type of player. That just will set us back for yrs we have to hit the nail on the head which ever WR we do end up taking.

You think cooper,D Smith are small and weak like Jenkins?,No freaking way,these 2 guys Can actually hold their on in press coverage they are solid players as far as Physicality goes and they are Much better players also,but yeah I really don`t think you will have to worry about Baaalke doing that Again,as a matter of fact Baalke stated the other day that he learned from His Mistake concerning the Jenkins pick,you can look it up. Yeah lol Junkins
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
he's got flashes, but i just don't get excited with the prospect of having him. maybe it's because of the system he's coming from.

IMO, it all depends on whether or not Henry believes he can be coached up to be a precise and sudden route runner. If he can consistently gain separation in the intermediate gain to force CBs to cover his feigns, he will be more versatile and even more deadly as a deep threat.

i keep forgetting that we have a pretty good WR coach, now.
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
he's got flashes, but i just don't get excited with the prospect of having him. maybe it's because of the system he's coming from.

IMO, it all depends on whether or not Henry believes he can be coached up to be a precise and sudden route runner. If he can consistently gain separation in the intermediate gain to force CBs to cover his feigns, he will be more versatile and even more deadly as a deep threat.

i keep forgetting that we have a pretty good WR coach, now.

Maybe even 2 of 'em (we'll see).
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Your arguments are valid but we dont Roethlisberger nor Peyton Manning we have Kaepernick which he can become very inaccurate at times i would trust a taller WR if it came to Kap being flushed out the pocket n he had to throw it up a bigger body prob goes up n fights for it unlike someone like Patton that prob will be blanketed by a DB.

Trust if we had a more accurate QB sure why not lets go after any of the other shorty's but i am just looking what players will help our QB for the long run.

Any QB can benefit from a WR that can get open that's what Cooper can do. If Kap can't throw to a wide-open WR then we should be focusing on moving up for a QB instead lol.

Boldin is only 6-1 (same height as Cooper) and he had over 80 catches and 1,000 yards with our inaccurate QB throwing him the ball, no reason Cooper couldn't at the very least match those numbers IMO.

Look i just want me a good red zone target thats all i am asking for i want TD's inside the red zone i am tired of us marching down the field and settling for a effn field goal.


So do I VD isn't some big 6-6 TE but score a ton of red-zone TDs for us in the past... he get's open, that's all I'm looking for are players on offense that know how to get open on a consistent basis.... someone that can get open quickly will make Kap and our offensive line that much better.

If you want some big WR/TE red-zone threat then why not grab Darren Waller in the 5th-6th round? He is 6-6....I'd prefer a WR who is a complete player like Cooper.

I will say this n we can all agree here we can't afford to draft another AJ Junkins type of player. That just will set us back for yrs we have to hit the nail on the head which ever WR we do end up taking.

You think cooper,D Smith are small and weak like Jenkins?,No freaking way,these 2 guys Can actually hold their on in press coverage they are solid players as far as Physicality goes and they are Much better players also,but yeah I really don`t think you will have to worry about Baaalke doing that Again,as a matter of fact Baalke stated the other day that he learned from His Mistake concerning the Jenkins pick,you can look it up. Yeah lol Junkins


Nah man u misunderstood me i never said Cooper or Smith will be the next Junkins its just a giving someone will be a bust but who will that be? it can be any dude big or tall i just hope we dont end up with THAT guy whoever we end up with hope he is a legit play maker.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Nah man u misunderstood me i never said Cooper or Smith will be the next Junkins its just a giving someone will be a bust but who will that be? it can be any dude big or tall i just hope we dont end up with THAT guy whoever we end up with hope he is a legit play maker.

ok
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