QB Carson Wentz NDSU 6'5 225 Lbs

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

How is the world is tunsil or bosa falling to us?? Buckner I can see there same with Stanley who IMO isn't worth the 7th pick with such a deep OL class.

I can't see Tunsil falling to us. Bosa on the other hand will fall if Dallas takes a QB. That means Jax will more than likely take either Jack or Ramsey since they just drafted Fowler last year and Baltimore will probably take Ramsey if Jacksonville doesn't, or Buckner or Stanley (whoever the Chargers didn't grab).

If Bosa does fall, I'd trade slightly back with a 4-3 team and scoop up an additional 2nd. If we were a 4-3 team, I'd be all for snagging him but we aren't and I think both Spence and Ogbah will be better 3-4 OLBs. Both looked better in LB drills and both have elite ability at getting to the QB.

Bosa isn't making it past Baltimore...Suggs isn't getting younger and they've already stated they need pass rush.

Baltimore also needs a safety and a LT badly. Ramsey or Stanley would be the picks if they are available. Also, don't they play a 3-4 defense? Would he not be out of place in a 3-4 compared to his natural fit as a 4-3 end?

4-3 is probably his best position for him but I can see him as a 3-4 OLB and getting down on nickle plays as a DE

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bosa isn't making it past Baltimore...Suggs isn't getting younger and they've already stated they need pass rush.

They play a 3-4 as well and need Oline, Dline and Cornerback help. They will probably sign Osemele to be the LT but bookending that line with Stanley makes sense too. If Buckner is still there, he fits their system more than Bosa would so I can see him being the pick

Word is they might not be able to resign osemele...I can see bosa as a 3-4 OLB but I assume the Chargers go for bosa anyway, Stanley would make sense in Baltimore.

Chargers would be smart to take Ramsey over Bosa. They are a 3-4 team as well lol

If Baltimore opts not to re-sign Osemele, I think they have to take Stanley or trade back and grab Conklin/Decker. Flacco will need someone to protect his blindside

MMQB's Peter King's informal poll of "quarterback-needy teams" at the Combine showed North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz "leading in the race for first QB off the board."

If you were waiting for the Wentz hype train to slow, you mine as well stop holding your breath. He has used NFL backup QB Ryan Lindley as his personal quarterback coach in recent months (Lindley is also working with Jared Goff). "[Carson] is everything that is pure about the game," Lindley said. "He is so refreshing. That's the word that comes to mind—refreshing. Sadly, some of us lose that as we get rubbed the wrong way in the game sometimes." King believes Cleveland's Josh McCown would make a great mentor for Wentz while providing the one-year bridge many assume Wentz will need to acclimate. Feb 29 - 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Bosa isn't making it past Baltimore...Suggs isn't getting younger and they've already stated they need pass rush.

They play a 3-4 as well and need Oline, Dline and Cornerback help. They will probably sign Osemele to be the LT but bookending that line with Stanley makes sense too. If Buckner is still there, he fits their system more than Bosa would so I can see him being the pick

Word is they might not be able to resign osemele...I can see bosa as a 3-4 OLB but I assume the Chargers go for bosa anyway, Stanley would make sense in Baltimore.

Chargers would be smart to take Ramsey over Bosa. They are a 3-4 team as well lol

If Baltimore opts not to re-sign Osemele, I think they have to take Stanley or trade back and grab Conklin/Decker. Flacco will need someone to protect his blindside

http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/11067/chargers-a-3-4-defense-in-name-only

Originally posted by NYniner85:
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/11067/chargers-a-3-4-defense-in-name-only

I hear him but Lissenmore, Reyes and Liuget are all 300 lb lineman. Aside from SEA, you don't really see that at all from any of the other 4-3 teams. You slap Buckner in there instead of Reyes, and they have the perfect front 7 for a 3-4. Both ILBs are run defenders (Perryman too) with Engram, Attaochu and Emmanuel all 3-4 OLBs rushing the passer.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/SD

They look like a 3-4 on paper and on the field but they make a good point in that they line their personnel up differently. But we are in a similar boat in that we play most of the game out of our Nickel package with only 2 DL and 4 LBs. Still built as a 3-4 team though

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bosa isn't making it past Baltimore...Suggs isn't getting younger and they've already stated they need pass rush.

They play a 3-4 as well and need Oline, Dline and Cornerback help. They will probably sign Osemele to be the LT but bookending that line with Stanley makes sense too. If Buckner is still there, he fits their system more than Bosa would so I can see him being the pick

Word is they might not be able to resign osemele...I can see bosa as a 3-4 OLB but I assume the Chargers go for bosa anyway, Stanley would make sense in Baltimore.

Chargers would be smart to take Ramsey over Bosa. They are a 3-4 team as well lol

If Baltimore opts not to re-sign Osemele, I think they have to take Stanley or trade back and grab Conklin/Decker. Flacco will need someone to protect his blindside

http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/11067/chargers-a-3-4-defense-in-name-only

Bosa could go there but SD has a need at safety and Ramsey is probably the best athlete in this draft . I could see either (or even Buckner) being their pick but I would lean towards Ramsey at #3.

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/11067/chargers-a-3-4-defense-in-name-only

I hear him but Lissenmore, Reyes and Liuget are all 300 lb lineman. Aside from SEA, you don't really see that at all from any of the other 4-3 teams. You slap Buckner in there instead of Reyes, and they have the perfect front 7 for a 3-4. Both ILBs are run defenders (Perryman too) with Engram, Attaochu and Emmanuel all 3-4 OLBs rushing the passer.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/SD

They look like a 3-4 on paper and on the field but they make a good point in that they line their personnel up differently. But we are in a similar boat in that we play most of the game out of our Nickel package with only 2 DL and 4 LBs. Still built as a 3-4 team though

So who's a true 4-3 defense in the top 10 because there's no way he drops based purely on scheme and I can see him being a 3-4 OLB regardless and get down on nickle.

Any way this is wentz's thread lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Any way this is wentz's thread lol

i thought i was in the wrong thread for a sec

missed all the news for the combine, So wentz is the #1 QB now ?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/11067/chargers-a-3-4-defense-in-name-only

I hear him but Lissenmore, Reyes and Liuget are all 300 lb lineman. Aside from SEA, you don't really see that at all from any of the other 4-3 teams. You slap Buckner in there instead of Reyes, and they have the perfect front 7 for a 3-4. Both ILBs are run defenders (Perryman too) with Engram, Attaochu and Emmanuel all 3-4 OLBs rushing the passer.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/SD

They look like a 3-4 on paper and on the field but they make a good point in that they line their personnel up differently. But we are in a similar boat in that we play most of the game out of our Nickel package with only 2 DL and 4 LBs. Still built as a 3-4 team though

So who's a true 4-3 defense in the top 10 because there's no way he drops based purely on scheme and I can see him being a 3-4 OLB regardless and get down on nickle.

Jacksonville at 5 but if Jack is there, they have to consider him since they just drafted DE Fowler last year and he will be back. Miami, Tampa Bay and NYG all are 4-3 teams that need pass rushing help as well. Miami has to decide on Vernon, Tampa Bay just needs help period and the Giants certainly need an upgrade if JPP can't get back to his former self. I think Bosa would be appealing to all of those teams to be honest but if he gets past Jacksonville at 5, he can realistically fall to 9 (Bucs) or 10 (Giants)

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Any way this is wentz's thread lol

i thought i was in the wrong thread for a sec

missed all the news for the combine, So wentz is the #1 QB now ?

That is what the talk is. I think it was a two man race from the get go and there is no change after the Combine. Just comes down to who CLE prefers I suppose

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/11067/chargers-a-3-4-defense-in-name-only

I hear him but Lissenmore, Reyes and Liuget are all 300 lb lineman. Aside from SEA, you don't really see that at all from any of the other 4-3 teams. You slap Buckner in there instead of Reyes, and they have the perfect front 7 for a 3-4. Both ILBs are run defenders (Perryman too) with Engram, Attaochu and Emmanuel all 3-4 OLBs rushing the passer.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/SD

They look like a 3-4 on paper and on the field but they make a good point in that they line their personnel up differently. But we are in a similar boat in that we play most of the game out of our Nickel package with only 2 DL and 4 LBs. Still built as a 3-4 team though

So who's a true 4-3 defense in the top 10 because there's no way he drops based purely on scheme and I can see him being a 3-4 OLB regardless and get down on nickle.

Jacksonville at 5 but if Jack is there, they have to consider him since they just drafted DE Fowler last year and he will be back. Miami, Tampa Bay and NYG all are 4-3 teams that need pass rushing help as well. Miami has to decide on Vernon, Tampa Bay just needs help period and the Giants certainly need an upgrade if JPP can't get back to his former self. I think Bosa would be appealing to all of those teams to be honest but if he gets past Jacksonville at 5, he can realistically fall to 9 (Bucs) or 10 (Giants)

I just don't see that happening Dallas runs a 4-3 and like I said I can see him as a 3-4 OLB

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Any way this is wentz's thread lol

i thought i was in the wrong thread for a sec

missed all the news for the combine, So wentz is the #1 QB now ?

That is what the talk is. I think it was a two man race from the get go and there is no change after the Combine. Just comes down to who CLE prefers I suppose

I just posted this...

MMQB's Peter King's informal poll of "quarterback-needy teams" at the Combine showed North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz "leading in the race for first QB off the board."

If you were waiting for the Wentz hype train to slow, you mine as well stop holding your breath. He has used NFL backup QB Ryan Lindley as his personal quarterback coach in recent months (Lindley is also working with Jared Goff). "[Carson] is everything that is pure about the game," Lindley said. "He is so refreshing. That's the word that comes to mind—refreshing. Sadly, some of us lose that as we get rubbed the wrong way in the game sometimes." King believes Cleveland's Josh McCown would make a great mentor for Wentz while providing the one-year bridge many assume Wentz will need to acclimate. Feb 29 - 12:23 PM

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Any way this is wentz's thread lol

i thought i was in the wrong thread for a sec

missed all the news for the combine, So wentz is the #1 QB now ?

That is what the talk is. I think it was a two man race from the get go and there is no change after the Combine. Just comes down to who CLE prefers I suppose

I just posted this...

MMQB's Peter King's informal poll of "quarterback-needy teams" at the Combine showed North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz "leading in the race for first QB off the board."

If you were waiting for the Wentz hype train to slow, you mine as well stop holding your breath. He has used NFL backup QB Ryan Lindley as his personal quarterback coach in recent months (Lindley is also working with Jared Goff). "[Carson] is everything that is pure about the game," Lindley said. "He is so refreshing. That's the word that comes to mind—refreshing. Sadly, some of us lose that as we get rubbed the wrong way in the game sometimes." King believes Cleveland's Josh McCown would make a great mentor for Wentz while providing the one-year bridge many assume Wentz will need to acclimate. Feb 29 - 12:23 PM

I think they both looked great throwing but Wentz separates himself from Goff by being bigger and more athletic.

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