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Robert Nkemdiche-DL-Ole Miss

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by Jcool:
He is a physical specimen who's production has never lived up to the hype. So not surprised he is struggling in the NFL.

After 10 games? On a team where he was never even slated as a starter to begin with?

Calling a D-lineman's career after 10 games is friggn' ridiculous. Everyone knew he was a character risk, which is why he was the 30th pick instead of the 3rd overall.

He was the #1 overall player in his high school class & was compared to Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor and Derrick Thomas. In college he had 6 sacks, 16 TFL & 0 FF in 29 games (comparison: Buckner had 10.5 sacks and 17 TFL in his last season). That is not living up to the hype.
[ Edited by Jcool on Nov 23, 2016 at 3:07 PM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by Jcool:
He is a physical specimen who's production has never lived up to the hype. So not surprised he is struggling in the NFL.

After 10 games? On a team where he was never even slated as a starter to begin with?

Calling a D-lineman's career after 10 games is friggn' ridiculous. Everyone knew he was a character risk, which is why he was the 30th pick instead of the 3rd overall.

He was the #1 overall player in his high school class & was compared to Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor and Derrick Thomas. In college he had 6 sacks, 16 TFL & 0 FF in 29 games (comparison: Buckner had 10.5 sacks and 17 TFL in his last season). That is not living up to the hype.

Who gives a crap about the "hype"? He was the 30th pick. And he's not even a starter at this point.

Cool your t**s for a couple of seasons. If you want to talk about busts, go back to the 2013 & 2014 drafts.
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by Jcool:
He is a physical specimen who's production has never lived up to the hype. So not surprised he is struggling in the NFL.

After 10 games? On a team where he was never even slated as a starter to begin with?

Calling a D-lineman's career after 10 games is friggn' ridiculous. Everyone knew he was a character risk, which is why he was the 30th pick instead of the 3rd overall.

He was the #1 overall player in his high school class & was compared to Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor and Derrick Thomas. In college he had 6 sacks, 16 TFL & 0 FF in 29 games (comparison: Buckner had 10.5 sacks and 17 TFL in his last season). That is not living up to the hype.

Who gives a crap about the "hype"? He was the 30th pick. And he's not even a starter at this point.

Cool your t**s for a couple of seasons. If you want to talk about busts, go back to the 2013 & 2014 drafts.

You did since you highlighted it and then made a comment.
Originally posted by 9moon:
He hasn't seen the field w/the Cards because there are better players in front of him.. had he been here, I can assure you that he would not be on IR or even have the same impact as Bucko at the moment because Wilkerson would be a better partner.

He did get on the field then got bench and has been there since then. If that happened to Buckner or AA you'd be all over his ass and you know it

FYI Getting benched is worse then getting injuried. One has to do with not playing well .
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 24, 2016 at 6:27 AM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by Jcool:
He is a physical specimen who's production has never lived up to the hype. So not surprised he is struggling in the NFL.

After 10 games? On a team where he was never even slated as a starter to begin with?

Calling a D-lineman's career after 10 games is friggn' ridiculous. Everyone knew he was a character risk, which is why he was the 30th pick instead of the 3rd overall.

He was the #1 overall player in his high school class & was compared to Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor and Derrick Thomas. In college he had 6 sacks, 16 TFL & 0 FF in 29 games (comparison: Buckner had 10.5 sacks and 17 TFL in his last season). That is not living up to the hype.

Who gives a crap about the "hype"? He was the 30th pick. And he's not even a starter at this point.

Cool your t**s for a couple of seasons. If you want to talk about busts, go back to the 2013 & 2014 drafts.

You did since you highlighted it and then made a comment.
Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 40s41 seconds ago

Robert Nkemdiche wants a pet panther. That's how he plans to treat himself when he signs his rookie contract.


Wonder how that Panther is doing?
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
This dude is a MUST draft. People are going to be kicking themselves for years to come for passing on this guy. Think Ray Lewis.

Murderer or not at least Ray will put in the work.
Originally posted by stonecold590:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
This dude is a MUST draft. People are going to be kicking themselves for years to come for passing on this guy. Think Ray Lewis.

Murderer or not at least Ray will put in the work.

True. There's no predicting how hard someone's gonna work. But Nkemdiche's going to be a force when (if) he puts it all together. Obviously, he's a character risk, or else he would've gone in the top 5. Darrell Russell was a character risk that didn't work out; Warren Sapp went the other way. Nkemdiche's nearly as talented as those 2.
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Who gives a crap about the "hype"? He was the 30th pick. And he's not even a starter at this point.

He was given every opportunity to be a starter. The Cardinals were down to their third string DE at one point and Nkemdiche was still struggling to crack the lineup.


Forget that 3/4 of the way through his rookie season the guy is still struggling to learn the playbook, he has regularly been reported to be halfassing his way through practice and team workouts.


A rookie can work through a lot of things but the main issue people have been questioning him on is his desire to improve, pure and simple.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Who gives a crap about the "hype"? He was the 30th pick. And he's not even a starter at this point.

He was given every opportunity to be a starter. The Cardinals were down to their third string DE at one point and Nkemdiche was still struggling to crack the lineup.


Forget that 3/4 of the way through his rookie season the guy is still struggling to learn the playbook, he has regularly been reported to be halfassing his way through practice and team workouts.


A rookie can work through a lot of things but the main issue people have been questioning him on is his desire to improve, pure and simple.

I'm not claiming he's off to a good start, but you don't draft a player expecting him to be an immediate, impact player. Especially not at 30.

Any player usually deserves at least a season and a half before you can start using the B word. Longer if he's a QB, CB, OT, DT. Shorter if he's a RB, ILB or safety.
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by stonecold590:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
This dude is a MUST draft. People are going to be kicking themselves for years to come for passing on this guy. Think Ray Lewis.

Murderer or not at least Ray will put in the work.

True. There's no predicting how hard someone's gonna work. But Nkemdiche's going to be a force when (if) he puts it all together. Obviously, he's a character risk, or else he would've gone in the top 5. Darrell Russell was a character risk that didn't work out; Warren Sapp went the other way. Nkemdiche's nearly as talented as those 2.
There is no predicting how hard someone's going to work? I'm not so sure. There are guys that you can tell are solely getting by on talent in college. There are guys where you can see them growing as players in college, guys who reportedly go the extra mile, etc. I am not saying I expect players to have a Jerry Rice work ethic. But I think we have a fairly decent idea of who will and will not put in the effort to grow.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Originally posted by stonecold590:
Originally posted by NinerSickness:
This dude is a MUST draft. People are going to be kicking themselves for years to come for passing on this guy. Think Ray Lewis.

Murderer or not at least Ray will put in the work.

True. There's no predicting how hard someone's gonna work. But Nkemdiche's going to be a force when (if) he puts it all together. Obviously, he's a character risk, or else he would've gone in the top 5. Darrell Russell was a character risk that didn't work out; Warren Sapp went the other way. Nkemdiche's nearly as talented as those 2.
There is no predicting how hard someone's going to work? I'm not so sure. There are guys that you can tell are solely getting by on talent in college. There are guys where you can see them growing as players in college, guys who reportedly go the extra mile, etc. I am not saying I expect players to have a Jerry Rice work ethic. But I think we have a fairly decent idea of who will and will not put in the effort to grow.

That's probably part of the reason Nkemdiche fell to 30 to begin with (along with other issues off the field). Maturity and decision making were clearly in question going into the draft.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2015/12/13/10032718/ole-miss-robert-nkemdiche-window-fall?client=safari

The Cards took a risk hoping that Nkemdiche would grow up. He still may, so it could be a good pick eventually. He can physically do everything you want at the position.
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
That's probably part of the reason Nkemdiche fell to 30 to begin with (along with other issues off the field). Maturity and decision making were clearly in question going into the draft.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2015/12/13/10032718/ole-miss-robert-nkemdiche-window-fall?client=safari

The Cards took a risk hoping that Nkemdiche would grow up. He still may, so it could be a good pick eventually. He can physically do everything you want at the position.

A lot of players have the physically to play in the NFL, but you need more than that and he just doesn't have it upstairs....it was clear as day in college as well. Maybe the light switch goes off, but that's a if.

All I know is if he was drafted by SF people would be ripping the pick apart right now.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/bruce-arians-critical-of-cardinals-rookie-robert-nkemdiches-work-ethic-160553231.html
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Keim needs to be held accountable for his horrendous drafting these past couple years. The guy just can't hit on 1st round talent. Even Buchanon is just a meh player.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9moon:
He hasn't seen the field w/the Cards because there are better players in front of him.. had he been here, I can assure you that he would not be on IR or even have the same impact as Bucko at the moment because Wilkerson would be a better partner.

He did get on the field then got bench and has been there since then. If that happened to Buckner or AA you'd be all over his ass and you know it

FYI Getting benched is worse then getting injuried. One has to do with not playing well .

valid point.. NOW, apply that to KAEPERDINK..
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