DeForest Buckner DL - Oregon

buckner is overrated, will be a solid pro but not worthy of a top 10 pick
we won't draft a qb unless out of desperation to avoid the potential aaron rodgers media scrutiny for passing a local qb. hopefully they are both gone by the time we pick to avoid a desperation media driven pick
most thought i was crazy when i said kelly would be coach early in the process, and you should all be excited when i tell you we pick jack at 7. Biggest impact player on the board in the top 10 and we get lucky when he slides to us. ideal scenario is that dallas act out of desperation (their season was ruined last year; no answer at qb behind romo) and reaches for the 2nd qb, jack getting past balt is the key though.

Originally posted by bopicksix:
buckner is overrated, will be a solid pro but not worthy of a top 10 pick
we won't draft a qb unless out of desperation to avoid the potential aaron rodgers media scrutiny for passing a local qb. hopefully they are both gone by the time we pick to avoid a desperation media driven pick
most thought i was crazy when i said kelly would be coach early in the process, and you should all be excited when i tell you we pick jack at 7. Biggest impact player on the board in the top 10 and we get lucky when he slides to us. ideal scenario is that dallas act out of desperation (their season was ruined last year; no answer at qb behind romo) and reaches for the 2nd qb, jack getting past balt is the key though.

If Jack still can't run a 40 this long after a meniscus injury, there's plenty of reason for Baalke to pump the brakes on that enthusiasm. Jack actually had to have the meniscus reattached, and that's not a typical injury. It should definitely make teams uncomfortable that he isn't 100% yet.

That's excellent news hopefully he falls to 7
Jax is dumb enough to reach for Buckner leaving bosa to go to Balt. Jack is a slam dunk

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by TexasDuck:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
sounds like he's meeting with the Chargers, I still think they go Ramsey if there.

They have a gazillion holes to fill. Makes more sense for them to trade down to a team needing a QB. Same with Dallas, and Baltimore

Assuming someone wants to give up their entire draft to get to 3 and take a QB. Not worth it, IMO. I think they take Ramsey and grab OT early in the 2nd

Aw man, don't say that. I am hoping they go OL early to give the niners more choices to chose from. Unfortunately, what you said is sound strategy, They could also go Buckner or Jack too as their first pick overall..

Originally posted by bigwads:
Not to be a prude, but I seriously have no idea why people like Buckner at all.

How would that make you a "prude?"

99% chance he's gone at 7.

Originally posted by bopicksix:
buckner is overrated, will be a solid pro but not worthy of a top 10 pick
we won't draft a qb unless out of desperation to avoid the potential aaron rodgers media scrutiny for passing a local qb. hopefully they are both gone by the time we pick to avoid a desperation media driven pick
most thought i was crazy when i said kelly would be coach early in the process, and you should all be excited when i tell you we pick jack at 7. Biggest impact player on the board in the top 10 and we get lucky when he slides to us. ideal scenario is that dallas act out of desperation (their season was ruined last year; no answer at qb behind romo) and reaches for the 2nd qb, jack getting past balt is the key though.

surprised we have brought him in for a workout?? IMO we should be working out everyone in the top 10.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by TexasDuck:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

sounds like he's meeting with the Chargers, I still think they go Ramsey if there.

They have a gazillion holes to fill. Makes more sense for them to trade down to a team needing a QB. Same with Dallas, and Baltimore

Assuming someone wants to give up their entire draft to get to 3 and take a QB. Not worth it, IMO. I think they take Ramsey and grab OT early in the 2nd

Aw man, don't say that. I am hoping they go OL early to give the niners more choices to chose from. Unfortunately, what you said is sound strategy, They could also go Buckner or Jack too as their first pick overall..

I would love for SD to take Stanley for that same reason .

Buckner is definitely an option at 3 but I know for a fact Ramsey won't get to 7 but Buckner may. So any prospect not named Buckner I'm fine with going in the first 6.

TEN - Tunsil
CLE - Wentz
SD - Ramsey
DAL - Goff
JAX - Jack
BAL - Bosa

Buckner drops to us

DeForest Buckner

Production

2015: 83 TKL, 17.0 TFL, 10.5 SK, 5 PD in 13 games
2014: 81 TKL, 13.0 TFL, 4.0 SK, 4 PD, 1 FF in 15 games
2013: 39 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 2.5 SK, 1 PD, 1 FF in 12 games
2012: 29 TKL, 2.5 TFL, 1.0 SK in 13 games



Measureables

Height: 6-7
Weight: 291
40 time: 5.05s
3-cone drill: 7.51s
Vertical: 32"
Broad jump: 116"

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/23/draft-why-pff-is-obsessed-with-deforest-buckner/

In short, everything. Buckner posted 67 total defensive pressures over the season which was nine more than any other interior player, and 17 more than Leonard Williams managed a year ago. Even when you add edge rushers to the mix that figure is still only bettered by three players this season, one of whom is Bosa.

The word that leaped out at me when I was watching Oregon games a year ago and hasn't changed is "active." He is a consistent thorn in an offense's side even if he isn't necessarily the most explosive pass-rusher you will come across.

Buckner has the kind of speed and quick power at the line he is often accused of lacking, enough to leave offensive linemen swinging at nothing as he slips past them. He isn't necessarily the most fluid and natural athlete, but he has the ability to beat players quickly and cause problems.

He also has the raw power and brute force to go right through them. Take a look at what he does to Washington's right guard for this sack:

At 6-7 and upwards of 290 pounds, this is a player with prototypical length and size to play 3-4 end in the NFL. As teams become more attacking to match up with pass-oriented offenses, however, we are seeing more teams use players like Buckner as a moveable weapon across the defensive line. The Houston Texans have transitioned JJ Watt – similar in stature – from an interior player to an edge rusher, and the New York Jets have employed Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson as edge rushers this season despite both being natural interior players.

Buckner is the classic example of play-by-play production trumping highlights. There has been no more productive football player in the nation over the last season or two than Buckner. He was a dramatically better player than Arik Armstead on the same defensive line a year ago, and has only improved since. Armstead went 15th overall in the first round last year, perhaps more for his potential than his productivity.

Some are going to focus too heavily on what Buckner can't do. He won't run down athletic quarterbacks, he will get blown off the ball at times, and he will leave some plays on the field. But if you instead look at the sheer volume of plays he is disrupting and instead focus on what he can do, then you see a player that deserves to be in the conversation when the Titans are discussing the No. 1 overall pick.

Buckner is a player that can fit in any defensive front and make a huge impact inside, and brings with him the versatility to move around and cause problems. He has consistently proven to be more disruptive than people expect him to be when you tally up all of the plays he makes, and he is one of the very best players in this draft.

Buckner compared to Leonard Williams, last year's top DE.

Buckner

Height: 6-7
Weight: 291
Arm Length:34 3/8"
Hands:11 3/4"
40 time: 5.05s
3-cone drill: 7.51s
Vertical: 32"
Broad jump: 116"

Leonard Williams


Height: 6-5
Weight: 302
Arm Length:34 5/8"
Hands: 10 5/8"
40 time: 4.97s
3-cone drill: 7.59s
Vertical: 29.5"
Broad jump: 106"

Absolute beast and if he falls in our laps at 7, we better not hesitate getting the pick in. Unless Ramsey or Tunsil are there, he is undoubtedly the BPA

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I wouldn't expect to see Bullard make it out of the 1st.

Not after his Pro Day. Stud!

"Stud" is overstating Jonathan Bullard. He's 30-50-range talent IMO. He's not stout enough to be a pure DT, he's not a great enough pass rusher to be a 4-3 great DE, and he doesn't have amazing length / upper body strength to be a great 3-4 DE. I could see him as a poor man's Michael Bennett.

Good news is that if DAL or SD takes him at 3/4, then it would leave us with a QB to draft.

LOL at people saying this guy is overrated.

Guy is an absolute stud. There is a good argument to be made that he is THE BEST player in this draft. Period.

i just dont get how anyone would not be excited to see him fall to the 49ers.

He likely wont, but he is my #1 choice if he does.