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DeForest Buckner DL - Oregon

Apr 28, 2016 at 7:29 PM
We are keeping Dial. Kellys Offense puts a lot of pressure on our Defense. We will need plenty of good fresh bodies especially on the Dline.
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:30 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by PacTiger:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by 9moon:
I promise you, we will have the Biggest, Tallest and SOFTEST defensive line in the history of the NFL if we end up having Buckner - Dial - Armstead as the starting DL for years to come..
this

meh, buckner is better than armstead and dial is on his way out

How is Dial on his way out? We just gave him an extension...I have no idea why we didn't do the trade Cleveland did with Tennessee. No elite prospect on the board, trade back and accumulate picks.

2nd highest player on their board hoe do you not take him...build through the trenches.
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...
he got 12 sacks in the 3-4. thats pretty impressive. this guy is a stud
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:32 PM
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Led the nation in snaps and he's soft?!? Lol wut

just watch, he isn't the unbelievable player everyone thinks he is

Maybe but there's no question he was the top 3 player in the draft and we got him at 7. Now it's up to him and coaching staff to get the most out of him.

I think he's going to be an amazing DE. Watched several Ducks game and thought he was several times better than Armstead. This is a great pick for our defense imho. I can't stand Baalke but he finally got something right.
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:34 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol


Apr 28, 2016 at 7:36 PM
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:38 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

Was Richard Seymour a bad pick?
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:40 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

I just watched a video of Michigan St vs Oregon where Buckner swam through a guard and a back to get to Cook. He was doubled teamed every play in that game.
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:40 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

I disagree. Many others too. You may be right. You may be wrong. Your record doesn't convinced me you have this pick nailed down.
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:40 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by PacTiger:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by 9moon:
I promise you, we will have the Biggest, Tallest and SOFTEST defensive line in the history of the NFL if we end up having Buckner - Dial - Armstead as the starting DL for years to come..
this

meh, buckner is better than armstead and dial is on his way out

How is Dial on his way out? We just gave him an extension...I have no idea why we didn't do the trade Cleveland did with Tennessee. No elite prospect on the board, trade back and accumulate picks.

2nd highest player on their board hoe do you not take him...build through the trenches.
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

DE's are not the pass rushers in our 3-4 defense. Buckner will now be the reason our pass rushers actually get to the QB like Justin Smith did for Aldon Smith. Everything starts up front! He or Armstead will need to be double teamed or they can cause problems.

Quintin Dial/Ian Williams/Dorsey at NT will make things even harder for O-lines and easier for our pass rushing LBer's. I don't ever really agree with Baalke, but this was a great pick!
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:44 PM
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

I disagree. Many others too. You may be right. You may be wrong. Your record doesn't convinced me you have this pick nailed down.
My record?
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:45 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

Uhh ok
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:47 PM
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

Uhh ok

Right. Because no Olineman in the NFL can be bullrushed. lol
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:47 PM
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

I disagree. Many others too. You may be right. You may be wrong. Your record doesn't convinced me you have this pick nailed down.
My record?

Exactly. lol
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:47 PM
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by PacTiger:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by 9moon:
I promise you, we will have the Biggest, Tallest and SOFTEST defensive line in the history of the NFL if we end up having Buckner - Dial - Armstead as the starting DL for years to come..
this

meh, buckner is better than armstead and dial is on his way out

How is Dial on his way out? We just gave him an extension...I have no idea why we didn't do the trade Cleveland did with Tennessee. No elite prospect on the board, trade back and accumulate picks.

2nd highest player on their board hoe do you not take him...build through the trenches.
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

DE's are not the pass rushers in our 3-4 defense. Buckner will now be the reason our pass rushers actually get to the QB like Justin Smith did for Aldon Smith. Everything starts up front! He or Armstead will need to be double teamed or they can cause problems.

Quintin Dial/Ian Williams/Dorsey at NT will make things even harder for O-lines and easier for our pass rushing LBer's. I don't ever really agree with Baalke, but this was a great pick!
Armstead hasn't shown that he can beat one lineman, let alone warrant two. I know 3-4 ends are not meant to be the sack guys, which is why I am very against taking them in the 1st round, let alone the top 10 unless they are elite players (which I obviously don't think Buckner is). You can get a great player to fill that role, especially in this draft, in rounds 2-3.
Apr 28, 2016 at 7:48 PM
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Draftology:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Draftology:
We've gone back and forth on Buckner before, but I just personally think this was a wasted pick. If you take a defensive lineman in the top 10, he better be a pass-rushing beast. Buckner could really turn out to be a two down player. I know he had 12 sacks last year, but the way he got those sacks doesn't translate to the NFL. I haven't seen a single scouting report claim that he is an elite pass rusher. We took the two best players off a terrible defense in back to back years...

This doesn't translate to the NFL? lol



It literally doesn't...he is not going to be able to manhandle NFL guards like that. His only pass rush move is a bullrush...

Uhh ok

Right. Because no Olineman in the NFL can be bullrushed. lol
No lineman in the NFL can get bullrushed if that's your only move. That move is effective when the lineman has to account for other moves as well and gets caught off balance.
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