Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

Don't see how drafting this guy is an upgrade over Kap.

And can one of the mods take Goff's name out of the title of this thred

This kid showed me grit and determination. Yes his receivers bailed him out at times but that's what good wr's are supposed to do. He made a throw where his receiver had a chance to make a play and they did...PERFECT! This kid showed he could with stand the pressure in a big game against some big time defensive prospects. Give my Watson over Mitch any day.

I still don't like either of them with our #2 pick.

Originally posted by mutant-man49:
Don't see how drafting this guy is an upgrade over Kap.

And can one of the mods take Goff's name out of the title of this thred

I mean he's a better passer than Kap for starters

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

Don't see how drafting this guy is an upgrade over Kap.

And can one of the mods take Goff's name out of the title of this thred

Hes a better pocket passer than kap

Originally posted by genus49:

He also runs a spread offense with limited reads...I'd say that's the biggest learning curve. Watson basically can't help but stare down his receivers in a sense with the way their offense runs. That's a tough habit to break and a bad one to have when your accuracy is spotty.

I'd still take Trubisky but boy do I love the intangibles Watson has.

Mitch has the same issues though

Almost every college qb will have this issue

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I mean he's a better passer than Kap for starters

Originally posted by harryj:

Hes a better pocket passer than kap

He's also a turnover machine and a QB that has been made look a heck of a lot better than he really is by some amazing catches by a future pro bowl WR.

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I mean he's a better passer than Kap for starters

Originally posted by harryj:

Hes a better pocket passer than kap

He's also a turnover machine and a QB that has been made look a heck of a lot better than he really is by some amazing catches by a future pro bowl WR.

Watson isn't a future pro bowler but other QB prospects are?

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean he's a better passer than Kap for starters

Originally posted by harryj:
Hes a better pocket passer than kap

He's also a turnover machine and a QB that has been made look a heck of a lot better than he really is by some amazing catches by a future pro bowl WR.

That future pro-bowl WR wasn't on the team last yr when he threw for over 4,000+ yards 35 TDs and went for almost 500 yards vs Bama last yr

past two yrs together he has 8,702 passing yards 76 passing TDs 30 INTs 1,729 rushing yards and 21 rushing TDs...I'll gladly take those INTs if he gets all that production.

I'm not saying he's a top 2 pick but he's already a better QB that Kap is.

I am just not sold on Watson, and his former history with injuries has me even more concerned. I know he showed toughness against 'Bama, but make no mistake, the NFL is a different animal.

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

He's also a turnover machine and a QB that has been made look a heck of a lot better than he really is by some amazing catches by a future pro bowl WR.

I dont agree he had a bad start but finished strong early on he was a victum of trying to do too much

I would draft him in 2nd sot him for a year keep a veteran to start and help him

Vince Young is a great comparison, he was also going to be a pretty good pro if he mentally didn't give up on life. As long as he has a coach that helps him develop on and off the field he should be just fine. Watson or Garrett at #2

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
I wouldn't mind watson at 2, he the only qb who is really worthy of that pick

Is hard to argue with that.

Like you said, 2 x National Championship games in a row.

In both games, he generated over 450 yards of offense each time.

In both games, he threw for over 400 yards.

And may I remind everyone, that was against Bama's top D.

Again, Bama shut down the run game last night and as the QB Watson he had to put everything onto his shoulders in order to win the game.

After Bama's QB ran in their last TD, he only had 2 mins left to make things happen.

And what happened? He kept his poise and pretty much just marched down the entire field almost Joe Montana like and made it happen just like that.

Overall, when you look at both his production and especially his clutchness, it basically tells you this is a winning QB which differentiates him from the rest of the pack.

Originally posted by SSF49ers:
He made it to 2 straight Championship games threw for 5!! TDs last year and this year 420 yards VA Alabama an NFL Caliber Defense. WATSON GOES #2

I agree. Look what he did a couple of weeks ago also. When it comes down to it, he's clutch. He plays his best in the big games under pressure. How many QB's have that ability. And against one of the all time best college defenses with a one dimensional offense. I think it's really important to consider how absolutely phenomenal that is. He's been doing this for years. He's 6'3" 215 lbs. Trubisky is 6'3" 220. What's the difference? Aaron Rodgers 6'2' 220, Russell Wilson 5'11" 215, Drew Bree's 6'2 209. What's the difference. Watson took some hellacious hits last night and every season he's played and he's still out there. Some QB's are durable and others are not. There is no way to say he won't be considering his history.

He's not going to be used and abused like RG3. You can keep him in the pocket and let him win with his arm...and when a lane opens let me go for 10 and slide. Think how the Seahawks have used Russel Wilson who is much smaller. Strengthening and conditioning can easily put 10 lbs of solid muscle on him and make him much more durable...and he's made it for 3 years in the SEC against the best defenses in the country and he's still in one piece not to mention has dominated. There is simply no way to say he can't be a franchise QB.

Originally posted by harryj:
Mitch has the same issues though

Almost every college qb will have this issue

Mitch has some of those issues but NC at least has him reading the whole field

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

I am just not sold on Watson, and his former history with injuries has me even more concerned. I know he showed toughness against 'Bama, but make no mistake, the NFL is a different animal.

The NFL is a different animal for all college QB'S entering the draft. He's played 2 seasons since his injury, both ending with the last game of the college season, hence more games than any of the other QB'S.