Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

Originally posted by okdkid:

Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
As an evaluator, you always want to see QBs in big moments to weigh how they handle it. Watson, in 2 NC games, was elite.

No he wasn't he choked because he only used one read all game.

Watson fits the ball in challenging positions, back-shoulder fade, low pass over the middle only the receiver can catch, touch pass over the defender. He also threw the ball into some small windows. I like the kid from North Carolina but Watson has played on the biggest stage against arguably one of the best defenses of this generation. He hangs in the pocket and senses the pass rush. Trubisky is at least a year or two behind Watson right now. What else does he have to do?

Still think we should draft Allen or Garrett

Originally posted by Dakes44:
You were the one who brought up INTs going up. So I just disproved what you said by stating that Jameis INTs went up to his final season. Both stayed in their same respective offenses. Why do people's INTs go up? But what I said was irrelevant apparently.

A big factor for Winston is that he was missing his #1 target from the year before in Kelvin Benjamin. The result was more risky throws as he didn't have anyone with close to the same catching radius as Benjamin had, a guy much like Williams who could go up and attack the football in the air.

His turnover rate is my only real concern. And it is a big one.

Love his leadership and intelligence.

There any highlights of the game?

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Watson fits the ball in challenging positions, back-shoulder fade, low pass over the middle only the receiver can catch, touch pass over the defender. He also threw the ball into some small windows. I like the kid from North Carolina but Watson has played on the biggest stage against arguably one of the best defenses of this generation. He hangs in the pocket and senses the pass rush. Trubisky is at least a year or two behind Watson right now. What else does he have to do?

He has to play exclusively with UDFA for three consecutive years without injury. Even then he's still no Jared Goff.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

His turnover rate is my only real concern. And it is a big one.

Love his leadership and intelligence.

Those 2 and he doesn't go through reads.

Guys on Sportscenter saying Watson is a late 1st round early 2nd qb. Also ranked him as the 3rd best qb coming out

Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
His turnover rate is my only real concern. And it is a big one.

Love his leadership and intelligence.

Those 2 and he doesn't go through reads.

Source?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by birdie2bogey:

The Tebow comparison is a big stretch. Tebow can't throw accurately. The out pattern to Renfrow was a thing of beauty. The back shoulder passes and the pinpoint throw to Leggit at the end were all throws Tebow dreams of making.

Watson has the smarts to fully digest a playbook and can make all the throws. He will go top 5 and hopefully a good coaching staff helps him develop further.

How big of a stretch is it? Tebow's college accuracy % was 1 % lower than Deshauns.

Both ran a spread offense. Both had great intangibles where "all they did was win"

I do think Watson is a better player and his career in the NFL is much brighter but the comparison is not that far apart. You think Tebow was stupid and couldn't learn a playbook?

He had some pretty passes in college too. Watson is very hot and cold when it comes to his accuracy. Yes he threw some beautiful passes yesterday. He also threw a bunch that would've been incompletions if not for his WRs making huge plays. He sails a ton of his passes which is very dangerous in the NFL and will get your WRs killed. He threw a ton of quick outs which his guys helped with big YAC plays.

I don't understand why people knock him for throwing up a jump ball to his playmaking receiver? Aaron Rodgers does the same thing with Jordy Nelson but no one claims Jordy Nelson makes Aaron Rodgers a great player. Watson puts the ball where his receiver can get it.

Tebow threw for nearly 1,700 yards less than Watson and 20 less touchdowns. I know Watson threw more interceptions but is more impactful as a passer than Tebow ever was. Tebow was a run first QB who thrives as a play action one read passer. Watson is only asked to read half the field but is not a run first QB who does pull off his first read. He showed that last night.

Cam Newton had comparisons to Tim Tebow and their numbers are comparable plus they were asked to do similar things.

I think Watson is more comparable to Vince Young with what he is asked to do and how he plays. I don't suggest he will become Vince Young because I think he can do betfer, but Vince Young looked really good his first two years in the NFL

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Guys on Sportscenter saying Watson is a late 1st round early 2nd qb. Also ranked him as the 3rd best qb coming out

If you were not adjusting for position, then I believe this ranking to be accurate. Not just of Watson but of Trubisky and Kizer as well.

That said, it's just not the league we play in. QBs get "over drafted" every year.

Originally posted by Dakes44:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
As an evaluator, you always want to see QBs in big moments to weigh how they handle it. Watson, in 2 NC games, was elite.

No he wasn't he choked because he only used one read all game.

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Dakes44:

You were the one who brought up INTs going up. So I just disproved what you said by stating that Jameis INTs went up to his final season. Both stayed in their same respective offenses. Why do people's INTs go up? But what I said was irrelevant apparently.

A big factor for Winston is that he was missing his #1 target from the year before in Kelvin Benjamin. The result was more risky throws as he didn't have anyone with close to the same catching radius as Benjamin had, a guy much like Williams who could go up and attack the football in the air.

I agree with you with why his INTs went up. I just don't buy discrediting Watson as others are.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Guys on Sportscenter saying Watson is a late 1st round early 2nd qb. Also ranked him as the 3rd best qb coming out

Same guys that said Gabbert was rated higher than Newton? Same guys who said Derek Carr is a second round prospect?