Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Harbaalke:
Browns probably taking the home town kid Trubisky he won't say NO

Oh God no. Trubisky is my pick.

Trubisky is on record saying that the Browns is his favorite team and wants to play for them. Nothing wrong with that, he grew up in the area. Plus if that gets us Garrett......

At least he's loyal.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot

#Clemson's Dabo Sweeney says If #Browns Hue Jackson passes on Deshaun Watson at 1 he's "passing on Michael Jordan"

https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/824007655911997441

Originally posted by Jcool:

Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot

#Clemson's Dabo Sweeney says If #Browns Hue Jackson passes on Deshaun Watson at 1 he's "passing on Michael Jordan"

https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/824007655911997441

Am I the only one who laughed when they heard that?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot

#Clemson's Dabo Sweeney says If #Browns Hue Jackson passes on Deshaun Watson at 1 he's "passing on Michael Jordan"

https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/824007655911997441

Am I the only one who laughed when they heard that?

I laughed too, Sweeney is dumb, Hue Jackson doesn't even coach basketball.

Watson has to be the pick at 2 even if Garret is available.

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Watson has to be the pick at 2 even if Garret is available.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Watson has to be the pick at 2 even if Garret is available.

I don't think we can pick for need in this draft, we are so bad that we need to go best player available. To me this would mean Garret or Allen if available.

A dynamic trade would be great but we would need a very nice package because trading back may take you away from the elite talent that we need on this team.

May get hammered for this but I absolutely love Watson at 2.

Dude is a stud. Championship DNA. Kyle could do wonders with this guy. He will be a Franchise QB. Tough as nails.

Just a comparison:

College Stats

Ryan 6'4" 217 - 43 G / 59.9% Comp / 9313 Y / 6.9 YA / 56 TD / 37 INT / 126.2 RATE

Watson 6'3" 209 - 38 G / 67.4% Comp / 10168 Y / 8.4 YA / 90 TD / 32 INT / 157.5 RATE

Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:

May get hammered for this but I absolutely love Watson at 2.

Dude is a stud. Championship DNA. Kyle could do wonders with this guy. He will be a Franchise QB. Tough as nails.

Just a comparison:

College Stats

Ryan 6'4" 217 - 43 G / 59.9% Comp / 9313 Y / 6.9 YA / 56 TD / 37 INT / 126.2 RATE

Watson 6'3" 209 - 38 G / 67.4% Comp / 10168 Y / 8.4 YA / 90 TD / 32 INT / 157.5 RATE

Did you note in your comparison that one guy played in a pro style offense that required him to read the whole field and the other played in a very basic spread offense? This is why its a folly to try and compare stats without context.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Did you note in your comparison that one guy played in a pro style offense that required him to read the whole field and the other played in a very basic spread offense? This is why its a folly to try and compare stats without context.

Hence the reason just for comparison. Look. I'm not sure where there is a nock on the guy. He is as clean and humble as you will find at the position. All he has done is win against prime time competition and a national title against arguably the best college defense ever. You don't get QB's of this pedigree often. The kid is going to be special. I personally wouldn't like to see us pass up on him if he is there at 2.

Have you watched Kyle run Atlanta's offense the last few weeks? Matt Ryan hasn't had to read anything. The majority of the plays are spreading the defense out, sometimes 5 wide, and exploiting matchups both with play-action and quick-drop passes. Watson fits Shanny's scheme to a T.

The same people who insist that Watson doesn't have to read the field are the same ones touting Trubisky. I wonder how many of those people understand Larry Fedora's offense and its lineage.

Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Did you note in your comparison that one guy played in a pro style offense that required him to read the whole field and the other played in a very basic spread offense? This is why its a folly to try and compare stats without context.

Hence the reason just for comparison. Look. I'm not sure where there is a nock on the guy. He is as clean and humble as you will find at the position. All he has done is win against prime time competition and a national title against arguably the best college defense ever. You don't get QB's of this pedigree often. The kid is going to be special. I personally wouldn't like to see us pass up on him if he is there at 2.

Have you watched Kyle run Atlanta's offense the last few weeks? Matt Ryan hasn't had to read anything. The majority of the plays are spreading the defense out, sometimes 5 wide, and exploiting matchups both with play-action and quick-drop passes. Watson fits Shanny's scheme to a T.

Unbelievably biased post if you ask me. You're not sure where there is a knock on this guy.....I think you need to go back and read this thread. Watson get's a ton of credit for things that I could've sworn people say is a "team sport". The new GM coming a board should be fired ASAP if he takes Watson with Garrett still on the board. It's like winning a National Championship automatically qualifies you to be a top 10 pick in the NFL and makes you a special QB!!! Btw how are Josh Heupel, Ken Dorsey, Craig Krenzel, Matt Mauck, Chris Leak, Matt Flynn, Tim Tebow and Greg McElroy doing?

Also what makes you say Matt Ryan hasn't had to read anything? Do you think it was just easy pitch-n-catch out there, that's a pretty ignorant comment don't you think.

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
The same people who insist that Watson doesn't have to read the field are the same ones touting Trubisky. I wonder how many of those people understand Larry Fedora's offense and its lineage.

So which FA or draftee understands "Larry Fedora's offense and its lineage" enough to warrant a chance at one of the niners 4 open QB positions?

Having no QB's next year really isn't realistic even for a York team.

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
The same people who insist that Watson doesn't have to read the field are the same ones touting Trubisky. I wonder how many of those people understand Larry Fedora's offense and its lineage.

He doesn't, he goes to his second read on occasions, but that's not reading the field.

Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:
Hence the reason just for comparison. Look. I'm not sure where there is a nock on the guy. T.

You're not looking very closely then. The reality is that there are a lot of questions about Watson which is why there is so much division regarding his NFL prospects. He is coming out of an incredibly simplistic college offense and teams will be trying to determine how well he would adjust to typically far more complex NFL offenses. You can be super intelligent, a winner in college, set all kinds of records and absolutely none of that guarantees you success in the NFL. Watson has struggled with his accuracy, with staring down receivers, turning the ball over...etc. Lots of potential but also quite reasonable concerns that will have to be addressed.

Both Watson and Trubisky will have to prove to NFL evaluators that they can pick up and run an NFL offense at a high level. Some teams will be sold on him, some teams won't but if Myles Garrett is on the board, there is absolutely no way this team should pass up on him for any QB.