Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

Originally posted by jcs:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/11/kirk-cousins-saga-could-culminate-in-2018-transition-tag/

Transition tag bumps his year one next year to over 28 million.

Oh wow, yeah, that won't be an option for them. LOL. They better sign his ass before July.

Originally posted by jcs:
They offered him a 5year 100 million dollar contract with just 25 million guaranteed and supposedly won't budge from it and you think they'll bump it up by 30 million next year? I don't.

I do - they've been low balling him since the alternative is keeping him on a one year deal which offers much less risk. It's ridiculous that they think he'll sign for 5 years $100 million. No franchise QB is going to take that deal with the cap continuing to rise. I do think Cousins will get paid more than Andrew Luck got, partly because the cap continues to rise and partly because Luck could have gotten more if he wanted. Their GM looks like the biggest moron in sports right now though, so who knows? Either way, we're going to have to offer him a boatload of money to make sure we get him if we don't address the QB position.

http://www.postandcourier.com/sports/jon-gruden-on-deshaun-watson-i-want-him-on-my/article_cf2c4a3c-1f02-11e7-88f0-071ab1f815c7.html

"What stands out on film is how much poise he plays with. He never gets rattled. Ever," Gruden said on the show. "I want him on my team, I want him in my family. I want to be around this guy.

"You'd be a fool to not want this guy on your team."

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jcs:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/11/kirk-cousins-saga-could-culminate-in-2018-transition-tag/

Transition tag bumps his year one next year to over 28 million.

Oh wow, yeah, that won't be an option for them. LOL. They better sign his ass before July.

I think we should not sign him to a long term deal if they tag him... (why even give them a chance to match?) THEN he can truly force their hand, sign it before the week1 deadline. They'll be forced to take the tag off, or trade him to us for a one year rental value cause at worst he plays out the year and we outright sign him anyways as we make a strong playoff push

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

There's a difference between not wanting to give a player a long term deal and not wanting to pay him $25 million/year for a long term deal with a bunch of guaranteed money when you don't have to.

The Redskins were better off giving Cousins the franchise tag this year than giving him a long term deal as long as they don't piss him off and convince him to hold out or leave. A 1 year $24 million deal is a great deal for a franchise QB with very little risk in the event that he gets hurt or regresses.

If the alternative is losing Cousins for nothing, I think the Redskins would match a 5 year $125-130 million deal if we offered it next season. How much are we willing to overpay him to ensure that the Redskins don't match us? At some point, you're better off just going with a rookie, particularly if we aren't going to be competitive for a few years anyways.

Any LT deal that he will be offered will be in that price range...and it's not even that it's the guaranteed money end of the day. He's making $44 million in guaranteed cash for the past two yrs of play, Rogers made $54 million over 5 yrs.

I disagree they would match it or they would have already offered him a comparable deal (reports were the deal they gave him had low guarantees) and avoided having to give him all that guaranteed money (with no commitment) for JUST this yr.

McShay's latest mock draft has Watson going to the 9ers at 34.

Originally posted by Rascal:
McShay's latest mock draft has Watson going to the 9ers at 34.

I'd be ok with that.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Rascal:
McShay's latest mock draft has Watson going to the 9ers at 34.

I'd be ok with that.

Me too. I think Watson will be a successful QB in this league. Him possibly being available in the 2nd round is reflective of the draft process over-analyzing and nitpicking his game to death imo. He is a legit 1st rd talent, 34th overall could be a steal for us.

Originally posted by miked1978:

I'd be ok with that.

I dont see anyway that he falls that far but I would be pretty psyched to get him at 34. You just know he'd be coming in with a massive chip on his shoulder too.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by miked1978:
I'd be ok with that.

I dont see anyway that he falls that far but I would be pretty psyched to get him at 34. You just know he'd be coming in with a massive chip on his shoulder too.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I dont see anyway that he falls that far but I would be pretty psyched to get him at 34. You just know he'd be coming in with a massive chip on his shoulder too.

I don't think he falls that far either. If he did it might be beneficial to jump back into the first round and take him just so you can have that 5th year option.

Hell if I were the Browns and I was sitting at #33 I'd take him regardless if I took a QB already at 1 or 12.

I wish I could get fudged up all the way up to the draft so it's one big blur leading up to the first pick lol. I'm over this.

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Originally posted by Rascal:
McShay's latest mock draft has Watson going to the 9ers at 34.

PLEASE make that happen. That would be crazy value.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Rascal:

McShay's latest mock draft has Watson going to the 9ers at 34.

PLEASE make that happen. That would be crazy value.

To quote mayo, I'd cream my pants if that happens!