Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017? | Page 213

Jan 8, 2021 at 5:56 AM

illinois9er
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Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

Yeah I think I'll pass on that

Jan 8, 2021 at 6:35 AM

#3182

LumpiaJeff
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Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

Yeah I think I'll pass on that

That unnamed source was the Houston sports journalist.

Jan 8, 2021 at 6:37 AM

#3183

NYniner85
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Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

Yeah I think I'll pass on that

That unnamed source was the Houston sports journalist.

Thought it was Albright? It's all guessing at this point, Texans more than likely have thrown anything out there.

Funny thing is that price is actually gonna go down (if it ever gets to that point) because he gets to choose where he's going....it's not gonna be highest price wins end of the day.

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 8, 2021 at 6:38 AM ]

Jan 8, 2021 at 7:24 AM

#3184

NinerTy
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Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

Jan 8, 2021 at 7:29 AM

#3185

krizay
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NFL Pick 'em

Originally posted by NinerTy:
And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

With all due respect! Some want to give up 2/3 of that for a guy who has yet to play a down in the NFL

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:00 AM

#3186

NYniner85
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Originally posted by NinerTy:
And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

So going off that thought process...

Joe flacco actually won a Super Bowl lol...so you'd take prime Joe over Watson because of that?

You'd take Jared Goff over Watson, because he went to a Super Bowl?

Stop

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:02 AM

#3187

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerTy:
And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

So going off that thought process...

Joe flacco actually won a Super Bowl lol...so you'd take prime Joe over Watson because of that?

You'd take Jared Goff over Watson, because he went to a Super Bowl?

Stop

Id take Brad Johnson over all 3

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:05 AM

#3188

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerTy:
And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

So going off that thought process...

Joe flacco actually won a Super Bowl lol...so you'd take prime Joe over Watson because of that?

You'd take Jared Goff over Watson, because he went to a Super Bowl?

Stop

Id take Brad Johnson over all 3

Sign me up for Dilfer or Grossmen

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:06 AM

#3189

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerTy:
And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

So going off that thought process...

Joe flacco actually won a Super Bowl lol...so you'd take prime Joe over Watson because of that?

You'd take Jared Goff over Watson, because he went to a Super Bowl?

Stop

Id take Brad Johnson over all 3

Sign me up for Dilfer or Grossmen

That's a mean lineup. According to the Patrick Willis thread those 3 have a better shot at the HoF cause of their Super Bowl winning ways.

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:08 AM

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Originally posted by NinerTy:

Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

Watson has only been in league 4 years. All things equal, would you rather have JG than Watson? Gross. Watson has never had a 1000yd rusher and has played behind worse OLs than SF and he still produces. That's like saying Stafford isn't as good as JG cause he hasn't sniffed a SB. But Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme have all been in the SB....pretty sure they still suck and aren't half the QB Watson is.

[ Edited by Rathof44 on Jan 8, 2021 at 8:10 AM ]

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:11 AM

#3191

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by NinerTy:
Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

Watson has only been in league 4 years. All things equal, would you rather have JG than Watson? Gross. Watson has never had a 1000yd rusher and has played behind worse OLs than SF and he still produces. That's like saying Stafford isn't as good as JG cause he hasn't sniffed a SB. But Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme have all been in the SB....pretty sure they still suck and aren't half the QB Watson is.

I think Jimmy has won 2 Super Bowls right? So we have a 2 time super bowl winning QB..

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:12 AM

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Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NinerTy:

Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

Watson has only been in league 4 years. All things equal, would you rather have JG than Watson? Gross. Watson has never had a 100yd rusher either and has played behind worse OLs than SF and he still produces. That's like saying Stafford isn't as good as JG cause he hasn't sniffed a SB. But Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme have all been in the SB....pretty sure they still suck and aren't half the QB Watson is.

The Houston Texans have a 4-12 record this year WITH a healthy Deshaun Watson!!! What's Watson's excuse?? I can only imagine the 9ers having a 4-12 record with a healthy Watson.....he would be eaten alive by this fan base!!! At least Jimmy G has a valid reason this year.

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:25 AM

#3193

Rathof44
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by NinerTy:
Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
There is an unnamed source that says three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and a player is the starting point for any trade discussion

And wtf would we trade those assets away for a player who hasn't even sniffed the Super Bowl!!!??? We have a QB on our roster who actually PLAYED in the Super Bowl

Watson has only been in league 4 years. All things equal, would you rather have JG than Watson? Gross. Watson has never had a 100yd rusher either and has played behind worse OLs than SF and he still produces. That's like saying Stafford isn't as good as JG cause he hasn't sniffed a SB. But Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme have all been in the SB....pretty sure they still suck and aren't half the QB Watson is.

The Houston Texans have a 4-12 record this year WITH a healthy Deshaun Watson!!! What's Watson's excuse?? I can only imagine the 9ers having a 4-12 record with a healthy Watson.....he would be eaten alive by this fan base!!! At least Jimmy G has a valid reason this year.

I think i found the reason(s) he was 4-12 as a starter. 2020 Houston Texans defense:
27th in points allowed @ 29.0 ppg
32nd in run defense @160yds/game
24th in pass defense@ 257yds/game
30th in yards/game @ 417 yds/game
yikes

[ Edited by Rathof44 on Jan 8, 2021 at 9:37 AM ]

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:28 AM

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I may have my info incorrect but don't we get picks if Saleh leaves? I thought I read we get 2 third round picks or something. If so, we should do a deal with Houston for Watson because we essentially have some additional ones coming from Saleh leaving.

Jan 8, 2021 at 8:38 AM

#3195

CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by 49erforlife:
I may have my info incorrect but don't we get picks if Saleh leaves? I thought I read we get 2 third round picks or something. If so, we should do a deal with Houston for Watson because we essentially have some additional ones coming from Saleh leaving.

It would be a 3rd this year and another 3rd next year. The picks come at the end of the round so they're more like 4th rounders.