Patrick Mahomes QB

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

I dont think he knows that at all. I dont buy the idea that a coach is imbued with some sort of magical powers to make a so so QB into a great one.


Kyle had his most success in Atlanta where he got to work with the most talented QB he has coached by far.

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Nobody is talking about making them a great qb, but absolutely a serviceable one.

Every qb had their best years under him. Ryan, Schaub(29td 15int and nearly 5000 yards), RG3, Hoyer had 7td 1 int in the first 5 games up until Mack went down. Rosenfel had no business in the NFL but he had 14-12 td-int under Shanny.

I really like Mahomes but doesn't seem like the type of qb Shanny would want. Seems like he just wants Vets that he can polish up,

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Nobody is talking about making them a great qb, but absolutely a serviceable one.

Every qb had their best years under him. Ryan, Schaub(29td 15int and nearly 5000 yards), RG3, Hoyer had 7td 1 int in the first 5 games up until Mack went down. Rosenfel had no business in the NFL but he had 14-12 td-int under Shanny.

Thats fine and dandy but serviceable isnt winning you a SB barring an all-time elite defensive performance. At some point he will need a QB that can run an absolutely explosive offense at a high level.

Originally posted by awp8912:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

2013 and 2002 were both positively awful for QB's. 2009 had Matt Stafford who was the obvious pick as the #1, after that every other QB was basically crap. Both Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman among others flopped big time.

I think this QB class is too uncertain to invest an early 1st into any of these guys. They are all varying degrees of project, they all have significant weaknesses that will need to be addressed, its just a very high risk QB class.

Understood but there's no guarantee we'll be in this position again next year. We aren't the Browns, choosing a high pick year after year. We shouldn't be mad or negative if they choose to strike while the iron's hot.

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Nothing I'm saying is ground breaking news... if there was some great qb prospect he'd be all over that. But there isn't. So he'll take a vet he trusts like Hoyer and hope to grab another vet he trusts in Kirk. If that doesn't work out then he's gonna look at other options.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Its really unknown how he feels about any of these QB prospects. I imagine that Mahomes and his raw physical talent are at least tantalizing to any QB coach around the NFL.

You can teach a QB a lot of things, you can't teach that sort of velocity or aggressive mindset that he possesses.

Originally posted by bkbkeahi:
Trade down & get mahomes.

Originally posted by awp8912:

Originally posted by bkbkeahi:

Trade down & get mahomes.

Wouldn't be mad at that.