Harold Landry Boston College DE/OLB | Page 236

Nov 16, 2018 at 7:06 AM

49erBigMac
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Originally posted by lamontb:
And we need a 4 down player. Not a guy that's just a specialists that comes in on obvious passing downs. We need a guy who can generate pass rush on every down while still stopping the run. I don't mind having a situational pass rusher to go along with the full time guy. We need a stud

I agree with this, Landry could have been the situational (and a better one than we have) but he's not going to be the required stud.

One of my issues with this current crop (admittedly not having studied extensively yet) is there appears to be mostly this type of guy available. I'm not seeing many 3 down studs outside of Bosa.

As it stands I prefer Winovich over most of the perceived 1st rounders.

Nov 16, 2018 at 9:40 PM

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We actually don't need a 4 down player because we have enough extra DT's to play run-stopping LEO on early downs.

That said, Alson Smith was a situational rusher his first year too

Nov 18, 2018 at 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Stanley:
Harold Landry is a dime a dozen player you can find in any draft. Not worried about it as we upgraded other areas.

If this is true, how come the 49ers haven't found one in, oh....about 4 years or so...
We've hit on a ton of DE's that can only manage 2 sacks a season...

Box score scouts are the worst...

Then i would steer clear of 90% of the threads here.

I can look at the boxscore today in a blowout and tell you that Landry had ZERO impact against the colts....

Dec 26, 2018 at 9:54 AM

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Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Dec 26, 2018 at 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by lamontb:
And we need a 4 down player. Not a guy that's just a specialists that comes in on obvious passing downs. We need a guy who can generate pass rush on every down while still stopping the run. I don't mind having a situational pass rusher to go along with the full time guy. We need a stud

I agree with this, Landry could have been the situational (and a better one than we have) but he's not going to be the required stud.

One of my issues with this current crop (admittedly not having studied extensively yet) is there appears to be mostly this type of guy available. I'm not seeing many 3 down studs outside of Bosa.

As it stands I prefer Winovich over most of the perceived 1st rounders.

It's okay in year 1 & 2. When we have no real pass rush, an average player would help us greatly at this point.

Dec 29, 2018 at 9:21 AM

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WRATHman44
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Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Stanley:
Harold Landry is a dime a dozen player you can find in any draft. Not worried about it as we upgraded other areas.

If this is true, how come the 49ers haven't found one in, oh....about 4 years or so...
We've hit on a ton of DE's that can only manage 2 sacks a season...

Box score scouts are the worst...

Then i would steer clear of 90% of the threads here.

I do.

Dec 29, 2018 at 11:14 AM

#3532

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Dec 29, 2018 at 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Landry went before Pettis

Dec 29, 2018 at 11:30 AM

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WRATHman44
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Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Landry went before Pettis

I think the point is that the 49ers actually gave up more to go get Pettis than the Titans did to get Landry, so the 49ers could have conceivable selected Landry, too.

Dec 29, 2018 at 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Landry went before Pettis

I think the point is that the 49ers actually gave up more to go get Pettis than the Titans did to get Landry, so the 49ers could have conceivable selected Landry, too.

Under what scenario would we have Pettis, Landry, and Warner? I would have loved Landry, but I just don't see us pulling it off.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Landry went before Pettis

You're right. Landry was 40th I think. I had Pettis in the mid 30s originally.

Dec 29, 2018 at 12:51 PM

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If Lynch doesn't trade down (still hope he will), then Allen's the guy to get in the 1st. In the 2nd rd, he should take Raekwon Davis. The middle of our defense is still way too soft...Buckner needs a real stud alongside him, then watch things improve.

Dec 29, 2018 at 8:52 PM

#3537

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kay nailed it. Landry's been a machine in his rookie season (as anyone who watched his college tape expected.) https://t.co/CYS7F9dqFV
— Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) December 24, 2018

Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Landry went before Pettis

I think the point is that the 49ers actually gave up more to go get Pettis than the Titans did to get Landry, so the 49ers could have conceivable selected Landry, too.

Correct.

Who's more important today and going forward: Harold Landry or Dante Pettis.

Just a fun selection priority to watch going forward.

Dec 30, 2018 at 6:09 AM

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Wrong we drafted Pettis AFTER Landry so would've needed to give up either McGlinchey (no) or Pettis AND likely a 4th to have gotten Landry (questionable)

Dec 30, 2018 at 6:51 AM

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Still crying over spilled milk lmao

Dec 30, 2018 at 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Landry would certainly be better than Marsh (folks who dispute it off of sack numbers alone need to look at other metrics and watch the game), but we drafted Pettis before Landry and Warner after. Which player are you giving up to have Landry? Just gotta hope they nail it with to rookie edge rushers this year along with a free agent.

Wrong we drafted Pettis AFTER Landry so would've needed to give up either McGlinchey (no) or Pettis AND likely a 4th to have gotten Landry (questionable)

I think we are in agreement in that neither of us are willing to give up who we got to get Landry. I was saying are we packaging the draft spot we used to take Warner and Pettis to get Landry. I love all 3 of our first picks from 2018.