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Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:
Ya, I totally agree. I didn't feel like getting any deeper in that post. Have done that with him before and it always goes back to stats. I was actually going to use Beathard as an example as well since his stats weren't so great in 2016.

Stats!

People like stats because "Numbers don't lie"..... which ironically is a lie lmao.

You can manipulate statistics to tell whatever story you want it to. That is what makes evaluating football players (professional athletes in general) very difficult. There are parts to the game that aren't measurable, like the players heart, work ethic etc. Just look at the rate of players drafted in high rounds and how many pan out... the "professionals" barely ever get it right.

Kyle talks about this quite a bit without really directly saying it. He mentions how he almost never looks at players stats. only watches the film to evaluate them and then tries to gauge their personality and mind set by interviewing them and talking to people who know them best.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
How can Rosen be a coach killer when the same coach is in place?

Mora is gone.
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So if he decides to remain at USC for another year, does that mean I can laugh at the "Tank for the trade haul!" segment of our fan base?
Originally posted by tankle104:
People like stats because "Numbers don't lie"..... which ironically is a lie lmao.

You can manipulate statistics to tell whatever story you want it to. That is what makes evaluating football players (professional athletes in general) very difficult. There are parts to the game that aren't measurable, like the players heart, work ethic etc. Just look at the rate of players drafted in high rounds and how many pan out... the "professionals" barely ever get it right.

Kyle talks about this quite a bit without really directly saying it. He mentions how he almost never looks at players stats. only watches the film to evaluate them and then tries to gauge their personality and mind set by interviewing them and talking to people who know them best.

Great post, I've noticed that as well and I think it helped our draft class.

As for Darnold, just like watching Jimmy G, he just has "it". I don't think he makes much difference to us now as I think we'll win too many games to benefit
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by lamontb:
How can Rosen be a coach killer when the same coach is in place?

Mora is gone.

Mora is gone because he rode the benefit of being a Mora. Im a UCLA fan and i will say that Mora is a terrible head coach. If anything Rosen helped Mora not get fired sooner.
Originally posted by FL9er:
So if he decides to remain at USC for another year, does that mean I can laugh at the "Tank for the trade haul!" segment of our fan base?

No ,still a chance for Allen and Jackson to shoot up draft boards

Never gets old
sounding like he's gonna stay another yr
Originally posted by FL9er:
So if he decides to remain at USC for another year, does that mean I can laugh at the "Tank for the trade haul!" segment of our fan base?

Dont think I have seen anyone posting that we should tank. A number of posters, though, have found defeats easier to accept this year! Big difference though.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
sounding like he's gonna stay another yr

Watch him follow Matt Barkley and completely watch his stock plummet due to another crap year.......hello 4th round, Matt Barkley says hi!!!!
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
sounding like he's gonna stay another yr

Watch him follow Matt Barkley and completely watch his stock plummet due to another crap year.......hello 4th round, Matt Barkley says hi!!!!

yeah it's a silly move if he does it....it will also push up other guys like Jackson/Mayfield/Allen as well.
he needs to declare. If he has another performance like this season he will drop and lose a ton of money.
https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-nfl-talent-evaluators-loveloathe-qb-prospects-rosen-darnold-allen-mayfield-015850432.html
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
sounding like he's gonna stay another yr

Watch him follow Matt Barkley and completely watch his stock plummet due to another crap year.......hello 4th round, Matt Barkley says hi!!!!

yeah it's a silly move if he does it....it will also push up other guys like Jackson/Mayfield/Allen as well.

We saw what happened to Leinart when he chose to bang and party for another year. Ugh. Just tell teams you wanna sit out the first year if they take you. How f**king stupid.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
sounding like he's gonna stay another yr

Watch him follow Matt Barkley and completely watch his stock plummet due to another crap year.......hello 4th round, Matt Barkley says hi!!!!

yeah it's a silly move if he does it....it will also push up other guys like Jackson/Mayfield/Allen as well.

We saw what happened to Leinart when he chose to bang and party for another year. Ugh. Just tell teams you wanna sit out the first year if they take you. How f**king stupid.

seriously. I live in DTLA, just 5 mins away from the campus. Their parties are insane, with bouncers, popular performers...the works. These kids are rich as hell and love to spends mommy and daddy's cash. I can see why USC players are tempted to be king of campus another year where they are treated like royalty
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