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Apr 3, 2018 at 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by genus49:
Wouldn't shock me if he went undrafted honestly. Though cuz pass rush is so important someone will roll the dice on him on day 2 or early day 3.

I think he goes at the bottom of the 1st round. One of the already stacked teams like the Pats will take a swipe.

Apr 3, 2018 at 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by genus49:
Wouldn't shock me if he went undrafted honestly. Though cuz pass rush is so important someone will roll the dice on him on day 2 or early day 3.

I think he goes at the bottom of the 1st round. One of the already stacked teams like the Pats will take a swipe.

We'll see. Definitely can't see the Pats bringing in a guy with questions about his work ethic and love of the game. They're more likely to gamble on a guy who had off the field concerns but not work ethic issues.

Apr 4, 2018 at 7:33 AM

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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Arden Key up next in my pass rusher cut ups.

Practically every game Key looks like an absolute superstar, he is like a mixture of Chubb & Landry, he has bend, burst, moves, hands and instincts, he even has hustle.

However he is so inconsistent with all these things (especially hustle), I don't know what it is, he'll go through practically a whole game looking like a scrub, and then boom, superstar.

I can't even say that it's conditioning as these things show up at all times in games in all situations.

My only conclusion is passion, I just think there are times in the game when he can't be bothered to be there.

He scares the heck out of me and I don't think he'd be on my board. Potentially he is up there with Chubb, but something is definitely wrong.

Wow, that's too bad, and I agree - with Reuben you already have a headache, and add this guy and the head ache becomes x4. Might be another Aaron Lunch the way you describe him. Kyle likes football players that eat, sleep, and breath football - this guy doesn't seem like a Kyle guy at all.

Apr 4, 2018 at 9:07 AM

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For the amount of hype this guy had coming into the year, he's tested as a terrible athlete.

Arden Key 4.85 in 40-yard dash. #LSU
— Jacques Doucet (@JacquesDoucet) April 4, 2018

Apr 4, 2018 at 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by Heroism:
For the amount of hype this guy had coming into the year, he's tested as a terrible athlete.

Arden Key 4.85 in 40-yard dash. #LSU
— Jacques Doucet (@JacquesDoucet) April 4, 2018

Jesus dude is a mess

Apr 4, 2018 at 9:12 AM

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Saw this in the tweet thread thought it was hilarious for some reason

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 4, 2018 at 9:13 AM ]

Apr 4, 2018 at 9:14 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

This guy must have some kind of eating disorder or body dysmorphia. He currently weighs the same as Roquan. But he's an edge and five inches taller...

Apr 4, 2018 at 9:18 AM

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I thought 40 yard dash means nothing for an edge rusher?

Apr 4, 2018 at 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I thought 40 yard dash means nothing for an edge rusher?

It doesn't, but given how much of the testing is related to training, and you can see that he is faster than that, it gives further evidence that he can't be bothered.

Apr 4, 2018 at 4:25 PM

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Getting some Jamarcus Russell vibes from Key. It sounds like he just found out that he lost millions from his stock plummeting.

"How you go from almost being the #1 pick, to 3rd round pick? I don't understand it still to this day. The talent is still there."

A defiant Arden Key. #LSU pic.twitter.com/wg0m2CeCAu
— Jacques Doucet (@JacquesDoucet) April 4, 2018

Apr 4, 2018 at 4:37 PM

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Casserly and Mayock were speaking very highly of him at the LSU pro day. Said he will be able to rush the QB at the nfl level due to his handwork

Apr 4, 2018 at 4:46 PM

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Casserly and Mayock were speaking very highly of him at the LSU pro day. Said he will be able to rush the QB at the nfl level due to his handwork

Pound for pound he's the best pass rusher in the draft. His talent isn't and never has been in question.

Its all the other stuff, questions about his judgment, his love for football and what he has going on between the ears.

If talent was the only thing that mattered in the equation, Ryan Leaf, Aldon Smith and Vernon Golston would be HOF caliber players.

Apr 4, 2018 at 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Casserly and Mayock were speaking very highly of him at the LSU pro day. Said he will be able to rush the QB at the nfl level due to his handwork

Pound for pound he's the best pass rusher in the draft. His talent isn't and never has been in question.

Its all the other stuff, questions about his judgment, his love for football and what he has going on between the ears.

If talent was the only thing that mattered in the equation, Ryan Leaf, Aldon Smith and Vernon Golston would be HOF caliber players.

Yup and that was all mentioned as well. Would you even touch him no matter how far he fell?

Apr 4, 2018 at 5:07 PM

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Yup and that was all mentioned as well. Would you even touch him no matter how far he fell?

Yeah, you still have to roll the dice at some point. 5th round for me, someone will take him much higher though.

Apr 4, 2018 at 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Yup and that was all mentioned as well. Would you even touch him no matter how far he fell?

For me it depends how the the draft is unfolding for us so far. If we take care of other positions prior to the third and still need a ER and Ejiofor and OO are gone then I would give him a shot.