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Bradley Chubb DE North Carolina State

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
No, they've drafted defensive linemen the past three years in a row, don't make it four. It makes the organization look incompetent.

You can't look at it that way, in my opinion. You have to pick the best player available to help your team. If it's a D Linemen, then it's a D Lineman.

Sorry Giedi, you're way off base with this, you preach BPA, yet you also say we need to pick Landry. I guarantee you that he isn't BPA. He would be a (slight) reach due to a pass rushing need.

It's a new regime. They dgaf about the fans feelings on going DL 4 years straight lol.
He will be long gone by 9.
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
No, they've drafted defensive linemen the past three years in a row, don't make it four. It makes the organization look incompetent.

You can't look at it that way, in my opinion. You have to pick the best player available to help your team. If it's a D Linemen, then it's a D Lineman.

Sorry Giedi, you're way off base with this, you preach BPA, yet you also say we need to pick Landry. I guarantee you that he isn't BPA. He would be a (slight) reach due to a pass rushing need.

BPA also has to take into account the kind of system your defense plays. If you play a Vic Fangio defense, you want a bigger OLB/DE that can rush and is decent to good at stopping the runs. If you play the Saleh 4-3 under (which is essentially a nickel defense) you want a fast edge rusher who's only job is the rush the passer and really doesn't have to worry about the runs. Landry fits the billl better than a Marcus Davinport. As for a Chubb, I think, based on all the draft nerd's analysis - he really is an elite (at least for this class) pass rusher. He'll be good in a Saleh defense, and he'll be good in a Fangio defense. The reason (I think) certain players go higher in the draft vs others, is because those players have the talent/physique to play in *various* different systems and be great in all of them. Simple Demand and supply. Whereas a guy like Landry is only good in certain systems (Saleh's defense for example) and probably wouldn't fit in Wade or Fangio's defense.
Who would be down with trading our 1 and 2 for pick 4 if he falls. I wouldn't mind. We have 3 picks from 59-74 so good chance we can still get the guy they really target at that point.
Originally posted by bdiddy1724:
Who would be down with trading our 1 and 2 for pick 4 if he falls. I wouldn't mind. We have 3 picks from 59-74 so good chance we can still get the guy they really target at that point.

Will take more than that. Will take our 1 and 3 and 1st next year. And even so, I'm still tempted.
[ Edited by Ezekiel38 on Mar 16, 2018 at 3:27 PM ]
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
No, they've drafted defensive linemen the past three years in a row, don't make it four. It makes the organization look incompetent.

You can't look at it that way, in my opinion. You have to pick the best player available to help your team. If it's a D Linemen, then it's a D Lineman.

Sorry Giedi, you're way off base with this, you preach BPA, yet you also say we need to pick Landry. I guarantee you that he isn't BPA. He would be a (slight) reach due to a pass rushing need.

BPA also has to take into account the kind of system your defense plays. If you play a Vic Fangio defense, you want a bigger OLB/DE that can rush and is decent to good at stopping the runs. If you play the Saleh 4-3 under (which is essentially a nickel defense) you want a fast edge rusher who's only job is the rush the passer and really doesn't have to worry about the runs. Landry fits the billl better than a Marcus Davinport. As for a Chubb, I think, based on all the draft nerd's analysis - he really is an elite (at least for this class) pass rusher. He'll be good in a Saleh defense, and he'll be good in a Fangio defense. The reason (I think) certain players go higher in the draft vs others, is because those players have the talent/physique to play in *various* different systems and be great in all of them. Simple Demand and supply. Whereas a guy like Landry is only good in certain systems (Saleh's defense for example) and probably wouldn't fit in Wade or Fangio's defense.

Landry still isn't BPA at 9. If we are going to pick him, need to trade down to at least 15+ and then I can get on board.
Originally posted by bdiddy1724:
Who would be down with trading our 1 and 2 for pick 4 if he falls. I wouldn't mind. We have 3 picks from 59-74 so good chance we can still get the guy they really target at that point.

There will be teams trying to get into top 5 for QB with much better offers than that.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Will take more than that. Will take our 1 and 3 and 1st next year. And even so, I'm still tempted.

Draft value chart sYs we need to make up 450 points.

Pick 59 is 310

So maybe would have to throw in a 3rd and get back a 4th.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by bdiddy1724:
Who would be down with trading our 1 and 2 for pick 4 if he falls. I wouldn't mind. We have 3 picks from 59-74 so good chance we can still get the guy they really target at that point.

There will be teams trying to get into top 5 for QB with much better offers than that.

Unless he drops to like 6th and we can throw the jets a 3rd I'd rather just take Landry or move down a couple spots for him (if that's an option).
Let's hope this guy goes full Tunsil in the next couple weeks so he drops to #9.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Unless he drops to like 6th and we can throw the jets a 3rd I'd rather just take Landry or move down a couple spots for him (if that's an option).

I wouldn't rule it out. I could see a crazy senerio where 4 qbs go in the top 5 and Barkley.
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
Let's hope this guy goes full Tunsil in the next couple weeks so he drops to #9.

I mean if he gets caught with a bong mask he's not coming here regardless lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean if he gets caught with a bong mask he's not coming here regardless lol

I don't think the team really cares if a prospect smokes tree, especially one like Chubb. "We at the 49ers believe a wonderful young man just needs a little support and a second chance, especially someone who is an elite prospect who fills a need."
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean if he gets caught with a bong mask he's not coming here regardless lol

I don't think the team really cares if a prospect smokes tree, especially one like Chubb. "We at the 49ers believe a wonderful young man just needs a little support and a second chance, especially someone who is an elite prospect who fills a need."

A year removed from Foster?

You're a funny dude
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Landry still isn't BPA at 9. If we are going to pick him, need to trade down to at least 15+ and then I can get on board.

Who would be your pick at #9? If you trade down - then to what pick do you trade down to and what will be the compensation you will be looking for?
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