Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by gold49er2183:
I can see Chubb being lynch/peters guy, and they've proven they ain't afraid to go get they're guy. So if four qb's and barkely are gone in the first five, I think we'll trade up to six and get him.
If he's our guy.
Why would Indy not take him for themselves? Fills a glaring need and this is a weak class for edge rushers and they just added in a couple second rounders this year so they have a good load of capital already.
Indy has glaring needs ... everywhere. If they loved him they would have stayed at 3. I think this trade this early on means Indy sees a few guys as fairly even on their draft board and sees Denver as picking QB. At 6 they figure they can get one of those players. Who knows? If they think they can still get one at 9 and pick up more picks, why wouldn't they trade down? If they loved Chubb and had him No. 1 on their board it's a hell of a gamble moving to 6 because Cleveland at 4 and Denver at 5 could trade out to a team that wants him.
Ballard said that going to 6 still allows them to get a premium player. Even if Chubb is gone, then one of Nelson or Barkley will be there. They cannot lose in this situation, and have 3 second round picks to continue to build a young core.
Indy likely has no interest in moving back further because the premium guys will be gone. It is wishful thinking that they will move off of 6 unless you are willing to overpay like the Jets just did.
Jets WAY WAY WAY overpaid. Look at the draft chart. To get that haul and still have a strong chance to get Chubb at 6 still is a no brainer, and if the Browns decided to take him their consolation prize is Barkley or Nelson. What a great position to be in.
They aren't moving from 6 unless someone way overpays again, and Shanalynch won't do that. Only way to land Chubb is to trade up to 5 with Denver who may think they can still grab Mayfield at 9 and risk another team jumping up to 7 or 8 for Mayfield.
I'd trade up with Denver if their demands are reasonable, and they very well might not be reasonable. I'd still make the phone call though to Elway and see what he wants for #5. I've said this earlier, but I'd give 59, 124, 223, and a 2019 3rd to move up to 5. If he bites do it. If not, we are still sitting pretty at 9 and will get a great player.
We have leverage there. We are not desperate to move up like the Jets just were. I'm not happy right now if Im a Jets fan. If Denver won't be reasonable they can just select Mayfield, Indy takes Chubb, and then we can see if Tampa is willing to be reasonable and trade down to 9 so we can grab Nelson in front of Chicago. If Tampa is unreasonable, they can select Barkley, Nelson, Minkah, or Davenport, Chicago selects Nelson, and we still have great options at 9 with Roquan and/or Fitzpatrick on the board.
If Minkah goes 4 though, we could have Barkley and Nelson available at 7.....right within our reach if we really want one of them.
Would Tampa be willing to deal with Chubb and Minkah off the board and needing defense? And if they were, are we trading up to 7 to take Barkley or Nelson....?????!!!!
How exciting would that be to see us trade to 7 with both on the board and having no idea who we will select...
If Tampa wanted Davenport or another defensive player they would know they could still get him at 9. The question becomes who does Chicago draft if we leaped them to get Nelson. Barkley or the best defensive player? Or trade down and try to pick up a boatload of picks to a team wanting Barkley.
[ Edited by Ezekiel38 on Mar 17, 2018 at 6:47 PM ]
