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Bradley Chubb DE North Carolina State

  • Giedi
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Landry does fit the bill. He really is what this defense needs. Been looking a bit at Chubb and Davenport, and I think Chubb is an overkill at DE. Love to have him, but most likely won't be there. But Chubb kind of duplicates what Solomon and Buckner do in a run defense sense. As folks have stated, our base defense is good. It's the pass rush that's a concern. Davenport is all bull rush with some hand fighting and edge rushing - like you said - very raw, and probably will take a year or two to really get up to speed.

I wish Landry was 10 pounds heavier and keeps his speed and agility, but then I suspect he'd be going before Chubb. With folks saying this is one of the weaker pass rush draft classes, I'm even contemplating trading down the #9 pick, get extra picks - get two raw edge rushers in the later rounds to develop, and go for a top elite edge rusher next year with the extra picks you get this year. I don't like that option, but if Chubb and Landry are gone, I'm thinking Davenport won't be any better than a 2nd round more polished edge rusher in my opinion.

I mean if Chubb is there at 9 run up and hand in the card can't see SF moving up for him unless we overpay and they need their picks.

If we can move down and get Landry even better, I'm fine taking him at 9 end of the day. If Landry is gone some how, say hello to raquon smith lol.

If that's the strength of the draft then Raquon it is, but I don't know anything about him, other than possibly that he's Reuben 2.0 from an athletic standpoint. Then we can possibly take an edge rusher later in the draft. The other option is to over pay, as you say, and trade up for Landry/Chubb if there's going to be a run on edge rushers. It might be worth it to overpay since, I'm betting we're making the playoffs next year and we're going to draft late, say in the 20's or later. This might be the only time in the next 2 - 5 years we'll be drafting this high again. Might as well make it count because next year, if I'm right, our first round pick will be equivalent to a high second round pick.
What are you guys willing to give up to get him?

  • Our 1st and next years' 1st?
  • Our 1st and 2nd?
  • Our 1st and one 3rd?
  • Trade?! Landry/Davenport is better anyway...
Originally posted by Giedi:
How much of Chubb's sacks were because of his teammates?

NC State has a handful of defensive linemen who may be drafted - DE Bradley Chubb (Rd 1 projection), DT BJ Hill (Rd 4-5), DT Justin Jones (Rd 6), and DE Kentavious Street (Rd 7)

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/19/new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-rubs-elbows-with-bradley-chubb-at-nc-states-pro-day/

If they are being slotted that low, i wouldn't look too much into that. Remember that NC State defensive line with Mario Williams, Manny Lawson, John McCargo, and I forget the other defensive tackle's name. All of them were drafted, with Williams and Lawson being first rounders at that. However, we see which player amounted to anything of note. No disrespect to Manny Lawson because he did have a solid career. But I wouldn't use having draftable players next to Chubb on the D-line as a strike against him.

With that said, I sincerely hope we do not draft Chubb.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
What are you guys willing to give up to get him?

  • Our 1st and next years' 1st?
  • Our 1st and 2nd?
  • Our 1st and one 3rd?
  • Trade?! Landry/Davenport is better anyway...

Our 1st this year and Arik Armstead...take it or leave it.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
What are you guys willing to give up to get him?

  • Our 1st and next years' 1st?
  • Our 1st and 2nd?
  • Our 1st and one 3rd?
  • Trade?! Landry/Davenport is better anyway...

1st and 3rd if he falls to #7. I don't think that would hurt us to much.
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
What are you guys willing to give up to get him?

  • Our 1st and next years' 1st?
  • Our 1st and 2nd?
  • Our 1st and one 3rd?
  • Trade?! Landry/Davenport is better anyway...

1st and 3rd if he falls to #7. I don't think that would hurt us to much.

That's where I'm at too...
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
What are you guys willing to give up to get him?

  • Our 1st and next years' 1st?
  • Our 1st and 2nd?
  • Our 1st and one 3rd?
  • Trade?! Landry/Davenport is better anyway...

1st and 3rd if he falls to #7. I don't think that would hurt us to much.

That's where I'm at too...

Wouldn't we need to jump in front of Indy to #5. I still think it can be doable there if Denver doesn't like the QB choices left and they move back to #9 and gain a 3rd
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Giedi:
How much of Chubb's sacks were because of his teammates?

NC State has a handful of defensive linemen who may be drafted - DE Bradley Chubb (Rd 1 projection), DT BJ Hill (Rd 4-5), DT Justin Jones (Rd 6), and DE Kentavious Street (Rd 7)

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/19/new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-rubs-elbows-with-bradley-chubb-at-nc-states-pro-day/

If they are being slotted that low, i wouldn't look too much into that. Remember that NC State defensive line with Mario Williams, Manny Lawson, John McCargo, and I forget the other defensive tackle's name. All of them were drafted, with Williams and Lawson being first rounders at that. However, we see which player amounted to anything of note. No disrespect to Manny Lawson because he did have a solid career. But I wouldn't use having draftable players next to Chubb on the D-line as a strike against him.

With that said, I sincerely hope we do not draft Chubb.

Good point, I went back and looked at the 2006 draft, it was an interesting draft. Mario Williams goes in the first round, and Elivs Dumerville goes in the 4rth round. Regarding Chubb, I trust our Draft guys here. I don't have the time to parse out Chubb's *real* sacks vs his *garbage* sacks because of his other teammates. If NY85 and MadDog and many others here are ranking him high. Who am I to argue!
Originally posted by birdie2bogey:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
What are you guys willing to give up to get him?

  • Our 1st and next years' 1st?
  • Our 1st and 2nd?
  • Our 1st and one 3rd?
  • Trade?! Landry/Davenport is better anyway...

1st and 3rd if he falls to #7. I don't think that would hurt us to much.

That's where I'm at too...

Wouldn't we need to jump in front of Indy to #5. I still think it can be doable there if Denver doesn't like the QB choices left and they move back to #9 and gain a 3rd

Would cost way more than a 3rd to move up to 5. And I'd still be tempted. Would prob cost our 2nd (59), 4th (124), and a 2019 3rd
I hope the Bills will trade up to Colts when Bills will grab Allen or Mayfield.
[ Edited by BuZzB05 on Mar 20, 2018 at 12:52 PM ]
He is good active and good playing.. hmm. I like him for Pass Rusher!


Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I hope the Bills will trade up to Colts when Bills will grab Allen or Mayfield.

Then Chubb goes to Tampa.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I hope the Bills will trade up to Colts when Bills will grab Allen or Mayfield.

Then Chubb goes to Tampa.

Bucs just picked up Curry. Probably will pass on Chubb. They now have the 2 DE spots taken by Curry and Spence.

Id expect them to go after a DB like Fitzpatrick, James, or Ward.
its possible

Browns: Darnold(its a given)
Giants: Rosen or Allen
Jets: Rosen or Allen
Browns: Fitzpatrick (their secondary is horrible. They just added 2 starting CBs, so they need a playmaker at the safety position)
Broncos: Barkley (Elway is a old school guy. RB is very important to him. He believes Keenum is his guy)
Colts: James (Colts need some help on their D. they probably have the greatest chance of taking Chubb so far but i will offer an alternative. They see James a true all pro talent at the safety position)
Tampa: CB Denzel Ward (Bucs just picked up Curry so their D-line seems set. I think they go with a secondary pick)
Bears: G Nelson (They just gave up sitton and have a spot open on their line. Chubb probably could play 3-4 OLB in Fangio's defense but its not the best fit for him)
49ers: DING DING DING, CHUBB!

Honestly the ones most likely to take Chubb are Colts. If you think they would choose Chubb over Derwin James and Denzel Ward, they could be a candidate for the Bills to move up and grab Mayfield
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Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I hope the Bills will trade up to Colts when Bills will grab Allen or Mayfield.

Then Chubb goes to Tampa.

Bucs just picked up Curry. Probably will pass on Chubb. They now have the 2 DE spots taken by Curry and Spence.

Id expect them to go after a DB like Fitzpatrick, James, or Ward.

Spence is no sure thing. Just 6 games last season he's also only has 6.5 career sacks.
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