Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Giedi:
If you look at the scheme that Kyle runs, it's hard to type cast and predict. Look at the coach himself, he's had a top notch offense pretty much his entire career in the NFL. He's building counters to everything a typical defense can bear on his offense. I think it's fair to say that a 5 game sample size is a pretty good indicator of where the team is given it's a only 16 game season. The QB prior to Jimmy was a big factor in those 10 losses. It's not like at the beginning of the 2018 year, we're going to bench Jimmy and play BeatHard. That much is certain.
Garoppolo could regress a bit, he could struggle with a few bad games, he gets injured and now you're back to 2017 all over again. This team still has a ways to go before they can be considered a serious SB contender. If they win 8 or 9 games this season that will be perfectly reasonable progress but they need to patch up a whole lot of holes before they can be considered an elite team.
As for pass rushers, NY85 did a study and basically came up with the conclusion that the higher in the draft you go, you increase the odds of finding that elite edge rusher. The lower you go, the less odds of finding that elite edge rusher. You can take a stattergun approach to the pass rusher position, but that also the same as trading up for *one* pass rusher - because now you are devoting two or maybe three picks to the same position vs *trading* two or three picks for one guy. To me it's basically a wash from a draft capital spending point of view.
That isn't a study, that is common sense. Your best odds of finding a top player at any position but kicker are in the 1st round, but each position has varying percentages of success. For example QB's suffer the greatest drop-off after the first two rounds. You can still find QB's but it becomes significantly more difficult to land a quality starter from the 3rd round onwards. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but its more rare. Pass rusher has better odds of success in the latter rounds, especially if what you need most is a 3rd down specialist.
If this draft had a Von Miller in it, I'd be all up for doing whatever it takes to acquire Von Miller, that guy who can fly off the edge. Chubb isn't Von Miller. I think he's best suited to playing the strongside where he can take on right tackles and simply overpower them but I just don't see him as an ideal fit for LEO. I don't think Landry is as good of a player by any means but I think he gives you more of what you need in terms of pass rush for this scheme.
Jimmy regress?
Really with only knowing a fraction of the play book last year? Playing with a RB that don't fit the ZBS last year? With a better interior Center this year? With Garcon and Goodwin *healthy?* He has the whole offseason to get up to speed on the playbook. That's like saying Doc's going to start writing sentence fragments during the 2018 NFL season! The dude played 3 years for a coach (prior to shanahan) that if you weren't good or consistent, or didn't know how to grind, he didn't hesitate in cutting you. If anything, the odds of him *pro-gressing* is higher than the opposite.Well, I'll just say that the draft nerds have Chubb up there. I think most have him ahead of Landry and some have him behind Landry. From what I've seen of Chubb (from the links posted by the draft guys) was pretty impressive from a speed and pass rush point of view. If they can put Solomon at LEO, I'm pretty sure they can put Chubb at LEO. Personally, I think Landry fits the Saleh defense better, and will be available at #9 or a bit later, so trading down a spot or two - the draft guys say you can still get Landry and get an extra pick. Chubb will most likely go to the Browns or the Colts before we pick. So the discussion of getting Chubb is a hypothetical exercise.
But if you have the opportunity to get a Chubb, then play him at big end. I bet he's an upgrade over Blair, and with him playing, he probably can free up Cassius and Attauchu from the other side. Again, from what limited stuff I saw - I thought he has the speed and the explosion to be a good LEO too. As long as he can rush the passer, I think he fits the LEO position. The only difference I see is the size between Chubb and Landry. I think against teams going no huddle and preventing situation substitutions, a guy like Chubb can play all downs vs Landry that might be a liability on base downs. Again, I see Chubb as an elite athlete that's very similar to Landry - same speed and explosion and ability to rush the passer, only that Chubb is just bigger.
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