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John Elway's offensive draft record since 2011

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/from-mile-high-to-rock-bottom-why-john-elway-is-to-blame-for-broncos-disaster/


Since parting with former personnel exec Brian Xanders after the 2012 Draft (Xanders, now with the Rams, was an unsung hero of the construction of this team and someone who, frankly, should've got a ring). when Elway essentially became the lord of all things football in Denver, here is a snapshot of their first three picks in each of the last five drafts:



2013
DT Sylvester Williams -- regular contributor signed with Titans in 2017
RB Montee Ball -- out of football since 2014 with 3 starts
DB Kayvon Webster -- 2 starts for Denver, now with Rams

2014
CB Bradley Roby -- part of great secondary. Excellent player, picked up fifth-year option
WR Cody Latimer -- 2 career TDs, oft-injured
OL Michael Schofield -- switched between T and G, left for Chargers as free agent

2015
LB Shane Ray -- 12 career starts, pass rush prowess in flashes but off field concerns
OL Ty Sambrailo -- Struggled mightily, now with Atlanta
TE Jeff Heuerman -- 15 catches for 215 yards and 1 TD in his career

2016
QB Paxton Lynch -- Seems totally overwhelmed in very limited appearances
DT Adam Gotsis -- Contributing to their rotation up front
S Justin Simmons -- Thriving as a regular starter this season

2017
T Garett Bolles -- Tough rookie year as part of a very poor offensive line
DE DeMarcus Walker -- Appeared in 6 games with 2 tackles
WR Carlos Henderson -- On IR

That's not going to get it done. Not close. All of the money and picks injected into the QB position and offensive line have to produce more than that. Roby the only true blue chip player in the bunch. Couple that with far less impactful free agent signings that what occurred early in this regime, and you've got problems.
I have a very difficult time thinking Elway isn't exploring wholesale changes in the coaching staff and, with Denver on course for a top-five pick, I suspect they end up selecting another quarterback in the spring as well. There are major, macro-level questions about the future of the franchise, with owner Pat Bowlen in declining health and no succession plan that designates one of his seven heirs as the next in line to run the team, with the family having to sort that out though a trust to try to keep the team in the family.

The front office is now under scrutiny as well, this looks every bit like a team at the crossroads, one now aging on the defensive side (which was long their strength) yet still with nine players set to count $7.5M or more against the cap in 2018.

They seem assured of finishing last in the AFC West, and while they happen to meet a team in just as much turmoil this week, in the Dolphins, that won't often be the case. It's certainly not a prime locale aging free agents like Manning and Ware would consider anymore. This smells like a 4-12 team to me, and the worst season in Denver's NFL history, and it's going to take quite a personnel hot streak to dig out of it anytime soon.
City of Denver is beginning to turn on the golden boy
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
City of Denver is beginning to turn on the golden boy

Ran Wade Phillips out of town, opted for Vance "Black Tomsula" Joseph over Kyle Shanahan because he thought the team could be a SB contender this season,, blew a whole lot of draft picks, can't draft a QB to save his life................but why would people begin to turn on him?

It also bears to mention that Baalke and Elway are reportedly very tight.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
City of Denver is beginning to turn on the golden boy

Ran Wade Phillips out of town, opted for Vance "Black Tomsula" Joseph over Kyle Shanahan because he thought the team could be a SB contender this season,, blew a whole lot of draft picks, can't draft a QB to save his life................but why would people begin to turn on him?

It also bears to mention that Baalke and Elway are reportedly very tight.

I thought the Wade thing was strange. Defense was set. Bring in an offensive guy to keep what Kubiak was doing going. I have no clue as to why they went in that direction and I was legit scared that Denver would snag Kyle. As for Joseph, not sure if he's quite Tomsula. He's at least been a DC and can put together coherent sentences . But there is absolutely nothing on offense and he isn't the guy to fix it.

On another note, hopefully Denver is a potential trade partner
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I thought the Wade thing was strange. Defense was set. Bring in an offensive guy to keep what Kubiak was doing going. I have no clue as to why they went in that direction and I was legit scared that Denver would snag Kyle. As for Joseph, not sure if he's quite Tomsula. He's at least been a DC and can put together coherent sentences . But there is absolutely nothing on offense and he isn't the guy to fix it.

On another note, hopefully Denver is a potential trade partner

Its not just the offense, their defense has sucked and ranks considerably worse this year than last. Joseph has taken a 9 team from a year ago to a 3 win team getting dollywopped by the Miami Dolphins. Supposedly Elway chose him over Shanahan because he didn't want to rebuild and felt that the team was a SB contender and that Joseph was the one to take them over the top.

That Colorado weed is some good stuff apparently.
Apparently it also came out that Adam Gase pretty much had the 49er job and it was John Elway bad mouthing Gase that cost Gase the job. Which is pretty bush league and is why Gase did an onside kick on the ponies this last Sunday up 30.
And then Elway came out and said the team was soft. And after a few days came out and said he meant the organization top to bottom is soft not just the team cause of all the heat he was getting. It's been very comedic in Colorado.
Could've had Kyle Shanahan. Instead they took Vance Joseph.LMAO

And I'll just post this gold down here

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/11/kiszla-john-elway-smart-to-pick-vance-joseph-kyle-shanahan-broncos-coach/
His defensive selections has been beast!
Originally posted by pdizo916:
His defensive selections has been beast!

Not really. Since he fired Xanders his draft record has been pretty meh.


2013
DT Sylvester Williams -- regular contributor signed with Titans in 2017
RB Montee Ball -- out of football since 2014 with 3 starts
DB Kayvon Webster -- 2 starts for Denver, now with Rams

2014
CB Bradley Roby -- part of great secondary. Excellent player, picked up fifth-year option
WR Cody Latimer -- 2 career TDs, oft-injured
OL Michael Schofield -- switched between T and G, left for Chargers as free agent

2015
LB Shane Ray -- 12 career starts, pass rush prowess in flashes but off field concerns
OL Ty Sambrailo -- Struggled mightily, now with Atlanta
TE Jeff Heuerman -- 15 catches for 215 yards and 1 TD in his career

2016
QB Paxton Lynch -- Seems totally overwhelmed in very limited appearances
DT Adam Gotsis -- Contributing to their rotation up front
S Justin Simmons -- Thriving as a regular starter this season

2017
T Garett Bolles -- Tough rookie year as part of a very poor offensive line
DE DeMarcus Walker -- Appeared in 6 games with 2 tackles
WR Carlos Henderson -- On IR



1 blue chip player in 4 drafts?
Originally posted by pdizo916:
His defensive selections has been beast!

I hope your not referring to Chris Harris and Shaq Barrett as Elways beast picks. If you know a players gonna be good you don't let them go undrafted. He's made some good picks Jake Butt, Devonte Booker(how isn't he the starter I still don't understand), Shane Ray and Justin Simmons but he's almost Baalke level bad.
Vance Joseph literally just dropped the new Allen Iverson. "Practice doesn't matter"
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Vance Joseph literally just dropped the new Allen Iverson. "Practice doesn't matter"

So in over his head. People bit so hard on his hype that he got rushed from a so-so job as DC to HC. This will not end well.
Now it's catching up with them
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Vance Joseph literally just dropped the new Allen Iverson. "Practice doesn't matter"

So in over his head. People bit so hard on his hype that he got rushed from a so-so job as DC to HC. This will not end well.

I just can't believe he said that into a mic. Like he doesn't think that's gonna get played over and over. And he will be here next year cause they used McCoy the good coach they had as the scapegoat. This is turning into a dumpster fire. Brandon Stokely is hilarious "if the Browns played the Broncos the Browns would be double digit favorites. This team is that bad"
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